Not even close KK , what I am saying is when you do get free spins , if your lucky enough , they pay for crap
The regular play is just as bad most of the time as well. I have been playing too long and may not use all the big long fancy words but use everyday gaming people terms , the RTG slots are tighter , plain and simple English
US players do not have the options of playing anywhere we wish like most on CM and have few good casinos to play with , the market is huge in the US and they know this and that we are gonna play , so they kind of have the US player to an advantage , just my feelings on this matter !
I wish you could put yourself in a US players shoes for once and see what we have to do in order to online gamble , you would not be a happy camper , this I can assure you !
Laurie
I can't begin to imagine how bad it is for USA players not in NJ. You've got a maximum RTP of 95% at RTG sites, maybe a bit more at 3Dice. Then you've got limited methods of deposit. Even worse it's grief getting paid out, and I know some US players have stated getting payments in a day or two at some of the accredited RTG sites but the majority wait 7-28 days for a cheque that they may or may not have difficulty in depositing. When they get paid out they have exorbitant fees on some occasions which mean that unlike us (who can be happy depositing £25, winning £50 and cashing it out usually fee-free) they often lose deposits that we wouldn't because they have to play on for a decent w/d to cover the fees.
Then the RTG bonuses, despite lower RTP's are massively EV-- for the players who can only dream of getting £100 with 15xWR and unlimited cash-out that we can at Bet-at say if we turnover 5k in a month. As Bryan said recently when a poster bitched about a small delay or bonus at Bet-at or Guts? to paraphrase "You should think yourself damn lucky you can play at sites like that!"
I took a step back here when I read this thread, as I compared the 2 scenarios. The UK where at least half of the people here reside is probably the best and biggest market. Australia has pro-rata more gamblers but a quarter of the population. Canada has restrictions on some softwares and payment methods. The US is potentially the largest online market but their consumer laws make it hard hence there being far fewer online players than here. Italy, France and Germany are heavily regulated. So it's easy for us to sound spoilt. It must make your blood boil when we whinge about having a 50x bonus WR or waiting 2 days for a cash-out.
My intent is not to 'rub it in' but to give the reader an objective view on the vast differences between the nations of our membership. We in the UK and our northern neighbours in Scandinavia can play anywhere, and any software from Bally to Betsoft, from IGT to RTG, from MG to Playtech. The biggest softwares aside from Netent are usually UK or USA, yet the Americans can't play most of their own games. So it's easy to lose perspective on the posts of our American cousins.
They have:
Crap and restrictive bonuses.
Generally get less playtime dollar-for-dollar due to lower RTP's.
Aside from Rival, RTG and 3Dice proprietary no choice in software.
Limited cash-out amounts on most sites.
Staggered cash-outs paid weekly/monthly for simply winning a modest jackpot or say $5k+
A far higher chance of encountering rogues.
Ridiculous fees for many cash-out methods that in real terms mean an even lower RTP..
Often long delays and slow cash-outs.
No legal protection via a local Gaming Commission.
So, I admire their tenacity in sticking with it, and also admire those like Karolina and US-facing accredited sites who make every effort to change things.
So your plight doesn't fall on deaf ears as regards us lucky Brits and Scandinavians. Slowly but surely you
will gradually get the same market privileges as we.
