Is any one playing online casinos making over 2000 a week or more?

Clemenza said:
1. Bethug doesn`t use the martingale system
3. Nobody say that progr. betting change the house edge.
Clemenza

The martingale graph was just an example. The point of most progressions is the same, to get an increased shot at a small win in favor of a lesser chance of a large loss.

Bethug has repeatedly implied that his system nullifies the house edge. He has never once attributed his win to luck. He repeately talks about skill, and systems, and actively encourages others to try his system without any disclaimer as to the risk involved. I think it would be a damn shame if even one naive person loses an amount of money significant to them because they believe any of these ludicrous implications.
 
BBug wrote:

"i am a real estate broker, and you have to pass a test , which is not easy to pass."

"you dont understand how a man that cant spell or form full sentence can bet a casinos."

So you are saying that you can become a certified real estate broker, pass the test, even if you cannot "spell or form full sentence". Any real real estate agents out there that want to answer that question?

Anyway, why would anyone be a real estate agent or work any other job when we can all make so much money using your system? I really don't understand why anyone with a computer and a few bucks would work at all?
 
chucho yes you can, I can read very well and comprend good. I also have a aa in business :eek2: only need a few more units to get my ba. but no time soon will i be going back to school.

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I been doing real estate since i was 18, i get tired of it. I make good money playing at hollwood park casino in inglewood, ca. But i rather playonline reason being dont have to worry about someone following you home and robbing you.

Also i can sale one home and make 12000 to 20000. I believe in having money come in all sorts of ways. also i am a personal trainer.

chucho how much are u winning a week, are u up this year??
 
Who friggin cares? Are you people that jealous that you cannot just congratulate bethug for his winnings, instead of trying to disprove him? He is not trying to sell you anything, and is not forcing anyone to use his "system" Holy Christ, this forum is unbelievable. Everyone is so negative, so skeptical of everything it drives me nuts. The simple question in the beginning was is anyone making $2000.00 or more a week in online casinos? I answer not me but I congratulate you on making that much money bethug, all the power to you. And good luck in your future gambling.
 
Bethug, how's the market doing at CA now? I still own a Condo at Silicon Valley and was planned to hold it until I retire, then move to sunny CA...

I do agree with Black21Jack here. No matter bethug is luck or not, using system or not. You made your own choice to believe it or not. There is no need to drag him/her down like this. (BTW, Are you he or she? )

Personally, I was very curious about it, so I tried a little bite. It's fun,but I can't take it. If someone want to try , she/he should know everything has its risk. She/he SHOULD be responsible for her/his own decision, not because of someone's post.

I think it's VERY nice to hear someone can make nice profit like this from casino becaue I can't. BUT it need a lot of self control and smart move, such as cash out profit and use the rest to gamble. So there is nothing wrong with his method as long as he is very well self-management

Take a break! Have a great weekend!
 
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bewitch, you might be a millionair.

i have had 4 clients that bought last year sale there home with a 100000 profit. when homes in the hood go for 300000, you know real estate is hot.

give me the zip and i will look it up for u.
 
Before you accuse Bethug of not knowing basic strategy, are you sure that the first card, second card etc listed are actually the first cards?

I know Microgaming playcheck does not list the cards according to their drawing order so I am not sure about Casino-on-net either.
 
LOL~ I know it (maybe not million but 1/4 at least now). :) Besdies, my "gambling" stock NT is going up these two days... I will be in very happy mood this weekend!

94536 It's an one bedroom with 1 car garage (780 Square feet). The HOA is very well establish. And its location is very easy access to the BART (Bay area transportantion). Thanks!
 
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bpb said:
Pirate's huge win on Carribean 21 was very impressive. It's quite a fun game too. I'd recommend anyone who enjoys blackjack to try it out sometime. I also personally don't believe he cheated, or had an advantage over the house. He got lucky. He was not "good" at Carribean 21. He may have played perfect strategy, but to win that much, you have to get lucky. All people who win at casinos get lucky. Many people who lose were unlucky. But statistics are statistics. House advantage is house advantage. Casino bets are negative expectation (discouting poker -- or any game where you play against other people instead of the house).

I think this statement is very well thought out and far from juvenile. Please let me know if you disagree.

BPB, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WIN OF 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS THAT OCCURRED OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. MONTHS NOT DAYS OR HOURS, BUT MONTHS. BPB, YOU MAKE THESE BLANKET STATEMENTS AS THOUGH YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. WHEN IN FACT YOU HAVN'T GOT A CLUE.

There's not a person walking the face of the earth today that knows more about Pirates abilities or lack thereof than I do and you can rest assured that is a fact.

Pirate was AND IS, in fact that good and there isn't any RTG casino out there today that would even dare give him any kind of a reasonable wager window with which to utilize. That also is fact as we make a point of checking those things out on a weekly basis.

All this nonsense about standard deviations and units this and units that is nothing short of BS. I would much prefer being able to read a current session of Blackjack as is shown in the attached Cipher Strand.
 
cipher said:
All this nonsense about standard deviations and units this and units that is nothing short of BS.

This statement demonstrates how far gone you really are.

To everyone else, I would like to be clear that I have no problem with betting systems, going against perfect strategy, or gambling at casinos in general. Gambling in moderation with disposable income is a great form of entertainment for many, including myself. I also don't mind if people want to believe that they have a system for beating the casinos, and have been lucky enough to win with those systems. Its when a person attempts to convince others that there is a system that will ensure that they can win at a casino that they are crossing the line. Losing your own money is one thing, conning someone else into losing theirs either because you get off on doing so, or are actually too stupid to understand and accept the mathematics behind it all (which derive straight from 1+1=2) is something entirely else. The former is a naive gambler (which there's nothing wrong with being). The latter is lower than pond scum.
 
bpb said:
This statement demonstrates how far gone you really are.

To everyone else, I would like to be clear that I have no problem with betting systems, going against perfect strategy, or gambling at casinos in general. Gambling in moderation with disposable income is a great form of entertainment for many, including myself. I also don't mind if people want to believe that they have a system for beating the casinos, and have been lucky enough to win with those systems. Its when a person attempts to convince others that there is a system that will ensure that they can win at a casino that they are crossing the line. Losing your own money is one thing, conning someone else into losing theirs either because you get off on doing so, or are actually too stupid to understand and accept the mathematics behind it all (which derive straight from 1+1=2) is something entirely else. The former is a naive gambler (which there's nothing wrong with being). The latter is lower than pond scum.

Tell me do you have any credentials at all that would demonstrate that you have any idea of what your talking about, that you'd care to share here with the members of this forum.
 
I have a degree from a crappy school in Cambridge (MA, not England). And I vaguely remember sleeping through a couple of probability related classes there ... but I mainly went for the athletics, not the academics. So I'm by no means an expert. I've also cleared a good $5,000 taking advantage of online casino bonuses. That's about it though.
 
bpb, i tell people to practice , i had my sister practice in the fun mode for a while. Next if you want to learn to make a extra 200 a day fly and see me.

there many people winning, i know people all they do is gamble, some good , some not. It there life dont hate .
 
I don't hate the people who win.
I don't hate the people who lose.
I don't hate people who gamble.
I don't hate people who play hunches.
I don't hate people who use "systems"
I don't hate people who use betting progressions.

I hate people who try to convince others that there is a way to beat the house online.
I hate the people who try to convince others that a -EV game can be turned into a +EV game, contrary to logic and reason.
I hate people who attempt to deceive new gamers rather than educate.

My advice to anyone even thinking about listening to anyone who falls into one of the above categories ... learn to play poker. Get Lee Jones' Low Limit Holdem book, open an account at Party, and go to town at the $.5/1 tables. You'll be making money in no time. Lot's of +EV at the poker rooms.
 
I think bpb has made some very valid points and that cipher may be a bit harsh on him. Most of the casino games have a negative expectation, i think it is fair to say that luck comes into play in determining how much and how often you win. Well financed players who are willing to take a bit of risk can certainly tow the line and get some nice wins.

i can't change bethug's mind on how much of his winnings is due to luck and how much is due to skill. What does it really mean if a player can consistently beat a casino game with a house edge?

a) The game is not random and the random number generators are exploitable.
b) The mathematical calculations behind the games are wrong
c) Mathematics is wrong
d) The player has managed to hack or gain inside information about the casino games
e) The player has been lucky

I'll let you draw your own conclusions
 
Bethug, if you can show Bewitch how to use your 'system' without her flying out to see it, then you can certainly tell the rest of us here how to do it without us having to come see you in person (which to me indicates some ulterior motive is involved). The title of this thread, and some of the content, is like a Tom Woo infomercial IMO.

I'm not jealous of this 'system', or of your alleged winnings (I make at least this much per week at my regular job). I gamble for the fun/challenge of it and to maybe make a few extra bucks, but I am curious about the details of the system and want to try it for myself to see if you are just bullshitting everyone (which I believe is the case every time I read another post about you making yet another $2000 while reading this thread) about being able to consistently beat the casinos.
 
Bethug, why do your screenshots show your bankroll increasing when you lose and decreasing when you win? That would be one way to beat the casinos, if you could figure out how to get that to happen and then play really badly, you could win very very quickly.

HA can never be overcome by any method other than cheating.

How can someone be "good" at C21? I have made a couple thousand bucks off c21 but not because I'm "good" at it. I use the strategy card and I've been lucky.
 
jpm said:
Bethug, if you can show Bewitch how to use your 'system' without her flying out to see it, then you can certainly tell the rest of us here how to do it without us having to come see you in person (which to me indicates some ulterior motive is involved). The title of this thread, and some of the content, is like a Tom Woo infomercial IMO.

I'm not jealous of this 'system', or of your alleged winnings (I make at least this much per week at my regular job). I gamble for the fun/challenge of it and to maybe make a few extra bucks, but I am curious about the details of the system and want to try it for myself to see if you are just bullshitting everyone (which I believe is the case every time I read another post about you making yet another $2000 while reading this thread) about being able to consistently beat the casinos.
He should be audited by an internationally respected accounting firm. :)
 
@angahar
I see 2 screenshots from bethug. But none of them showin that his bankroll increases when he lost :confused:

...its clear that you have to read it from the bottom to the top, hm :eek2:

but nice idea anyway, lol, that would be cool. I would be a millionair if the casino would pay for every loose. HAHA
 
GrandMaster said:
He should be audited by an internationally respected accounting firm. :)

:):)

Considering the money Damian's made, he should be able to stump up the fee for a PWC default rubber stamp of authenticity. Anyone know the going rate?
 
this is it

bpb said:
I don't hate the people who win.
I don't hate the people who lose.
I don't hate people who gamble.
I don't hate people who play hunches.
I don't hate people who use "systems"
I don't hate people who use betting progressions.

I hate people who try to convince others that there is a way to beat the house online.
I hate the people who try to convince others that a -EV game can be turned into a +EV game, contrary to logic and reason.
I hate people who attempt to deceive new gamers rather than educate.

My advice to anyone even thinking about listening to anyone who falls into one of the above categories ... learn to play poker. Get Lee Jones' Low Limit Holdem book, open an account at Party, and go to town at the $.5/1 tables. You'll be making money in no time. Lot's of +EV at the poker rooms.

for those who search for the truth of gambling, this is it!

lee is getting old, at holdemschool.com you may learn better poker in the near furure.
 
there no way will i go into detail how i play online. I gave enough advice. another reason i am to lazy to take the time and spell and use proper grammer so u can understand. But if you take the time and fly out here, i will be glad to show you. There nothing i am trying to do. I dont need no one money from no one ,unless you want to buy a house

everytime for the pass two years, i say something some math fool say it cant be done, so i am done with it.
 
We can't afford to fly to you since you are the one with the money and the method. We have our day jobs to go to. No money = no flying anywhere.

I hope you have enjoyed stringing us along, giving out bits to keep us intrigued but not enough to be useful. Basically you are just dangling a carrot in front of a donkey. I hope your ego gets the massage that it so desparately needs and the attention that you so obviously crave.
 
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jpm said:
Bethug, if you can show Bewitch how to use your 'system' without her flying out to see it, then you can certainly tell the rest of us here how to do it without us having to come see you in person (which to me indicates some ulterior motive is involved). The title of this thread, and some of the content, is like a Tom Woo infomercial IMO.

Wait, bethug did NOT show me anything. I did a search on the website and found some article. Then I follow the article MYSELF.

Maybe it's time to take a break from this. Have a nice weekend.
 

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