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Is 3Dice Black Jack fair?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Narcos, Jul 19, 2017.

    Jul 19, 2017
  1. Narcos

    Narcos Banned User - Acting like a jerk. PITA

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    I opened an account at 3dice and made my first deposit. I played BJ and it went straight to hell from there. Dealer got BJ 10 times out of 55 hands I GOT NONE. Dealer got 21 6 times and got 21 once. Never did I win no more then 2 hands in a row. Dealer wins 3+ hands in a row. I managed to break even 5 times and on the 5th time I was dealt two 7s and the dealer 6. I split the 7s just to end up losing to dealer 21. Upset and wondering why I could never get $1 over my starting point. I complained to support, in which Jared (CS agent) said, it was just bad luck. I explained to him that i've never in my life had a session that started off like that. But I said to him, In good faith I'll redeposit and try again. So I redeposited and the first 3 hands dealer get 3 BJs in a row followed by 20 and BJ, BJ. My mouth just dropped wide open. I told Jared to close my account still with a balance and asked for a refund as I knew this was NOT a fair game of BJ. Upon researching I see that 3dice has had issues with their BJ dating back to 2008. In fact one guy hired a private auditor who's finding was that 3dice BJ wasn't as a normal game. Jared was rude and closed my chat because I asked for a refund. I go over from private chat with him to normal chat. And Jared is making fun of me saying I need to avoid playing BJ as its not my game. Anyone here knows I am a long time member and BJ is my game of choice. Its funny how when someone loses to a suspected unfair game. It's the player's fault and not the game itself. How can anyone beat a game that doesn't let you win over your bet doing that session No matter what you do or bet? Anna came on and made in even worse. She says she didn't care if i complaint or not on the forum. She has enough members that plays there and my complaint wouldn't affect them one bit. She seems quiet arrogant and rude. This place is not running a fair BJ game and they know it. All I did was deposited in good faith and expected a fair game. I can take losing but when you see the crap the dealer was getting. There is no way that game is anywhere near fair. This place is horrible at best and those who are true gamblers should STAY FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM IT!
     
  2. Jul 19, 2017
  3. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

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    Was that a joke? Who are you? Do we know you?
    I've never ever heard that the staff at 3Dice would be rude, and yes you do sound just like someone who shouldn't play BJ:thumbsup:
    Warning not noted!
     
  4. Jul 19, 2017
  5. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I've moved your post to here. If you want to know if 3Dice's BJ is fair, than all you have to do is ask without all the drama. You will get a response from a number of people. If you want your hands to be audited, than can be arranged as well. 3Dice has been audited in the past and all was found to be well. I think the incident you are referring to was initially an error made by the auditor who then corrected it. As far as I know, 3Dice's BJ is fair.
     
  6. Jul 19, 2017
  7. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

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    The odd thing with that post is that it seemed like we actually should know who he is. He made his third post and haven't mentioned BJ in the two earlier.
    Could he have been a member here before and forgot he created a new account.
    Maybe you should look it up. That kind of rant is common, but not those words of us knowing him:eek2:
     
  8. Jul 20, 2017
  9. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    WOW,

    Yet another thread.

    What is going on at the moment. As Bryan has said which i agree with 100%.

    3dice is fair and has been audited and tested. I suggest that you should refrain from posting these accusations that are unfounded, I also reckon you will never find any evidence to back up your claim too, which is more proof that your obviously just a new member who deposited and lost and got very upset and decided to rant and make a thread so you could just complain.

    Well many members see this and will categorically be on 3dices side.

    Gambling Tip: If you don't and can not afford to gamble and lose your money! then DON'T GAMBLE. It is really simple, So get of your high horse and don't gamble again. Because obviously you do not like losing and you rant about it and make wild unjust accusations.
     
  10. Jul 20, 2017
  11. Narcos

    Narcos Banned User - Acting like a jerk. PITA

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    Yes they were very rude and sorry about the long time member. I posted this on another forum and just copied and pasted it here. Sorry

    I have no reason to lie. I would be happy if 3dice wants to release my entire game play record here for everyone to see.

    I don't think 3dice is running a fair BJ game now a days. I will be happy for you to get a copy of my play and look for yourself.

    Instead of everyone jumping to the defense of 3dice. Have them to publish my history and see for yourselves.
     
  12. Jul 20, 2017
  13. weesie

    weesie Ueber Meister

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    3 Dice has a lot of very, VERY loyal members. So, yes, if it appears to come

    as an attack, you will get called out!

    Even worse is you admit to posting this rubbish in other forums!
     
  14. Jul 20, 2017
  15. cj1990

    cj1990 Experienced Member webby PABnonaccred

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    I don't have an account at 3-Dice, but..

    I play a lot of online non-live dealer blackjack.

    Sometimes I win and sometimes I loose.

    You are bound to have bad runs.


    I've gotten 6 BJs in a row in a single session, and others I've gotten none.


    For the most part I record my game-play, maybe you should do this too.

    If you are curious you can checkout my YouTube channel to see some challenge videos I have that appear to be rigged and loosing sessions.

    I've also had the dealer hit 20 and 21 consecutively in a real casino and the guy next to me lost over a grand in 4 hands, so shit happens.

    Play a different game and learn to deal with the ups and downs of online computer blackjack, its just the nature of the beast.
     
  16. Jul 20, 2017
  17. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    In Blackjack it's extremely easy to prove if it's rigged.
    Since OP hasn't even bothered to do this, you can be extremely sure that it's just someone whinging about a loss. :rolleyes:

    I turned ~$10 into somewhere between $500-$1000 with the 3Dice BJ, I can vouch for it's fairness. :D

    And I don't even like 3Dice that much.
     
  18. Jul 20, 2017
  19. bowlingbob

    bowlingbob Experienced Member

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    So because you won one time it must be fair! So much LOL in that statement.

    BTW, I played tens of thousands of hands (stupidly) on 3dice blackjack years ago and between that and their slots I never felt like I was getting a fair deal there so I closed my account. On top of some other shenanigans with support regarding their so called no BS payouts that sealed the deal for me with that operation. IMHO, they are scummy and will try to take advantage of someone if its to their benefit. So it really doesn't surprise me one bit that the OP made a claim they were rude or condescending. Since my time there has no other casino ever fked around with payouts I've won and I've always been paid full and fast. 3dice was the only online casino I ever had issues with. So for me the decision was right to close my account there and end the relationship.

    The only online blackjack I would trust is Bovada and provably fair bitcoin casino blackjack.
     
  20. Jul 20, 2017
  21. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    That's not what I meant. I can't tell if it's fair or not just because I won.
    All's I can say is that I personally have no reason to think it's rigged.

    I once became very suspicious of Microgaming Blackjack but I never got enough hands to confirm that it wasn't a fair game.
    I found the MG BJ to have a lot of dealer winning streaks; dealer kept on winning 10+ hands in a row over a fairly short period.
     
  22. Jul 20, 2017
  23. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    So you now speak out? and slate 3dice?

    I do not know what issues you had with withdraws, but i can tell you that all 3dice members have no issues with withdraws, when i do manage to win i get them to neteller within hours usually. It all depends when Anna comes on, as she is the only one that can approve them. the longest i had to wait was 24 hours. And that is not bad what so ever. infact it is actually a lot faster and better than most other casinos.

    So before you slate 3dice try and get evidence that 3dice have issues with withdraws first. But i can tell you, you wont find any other than 1 thread made months ago on CM. which did get resolved. And it all got explained in that thread why there was delays as well.

    But either way even withdraws to other methods for USA players still get approved within the same timeframe as well.

    So why don't you elaborate and say what issue you had then? because you didn't even give any facts about it you just said they messed you about with them.

    I can not be bothered with all these people slating 3dice now it is now getting tiresome. I think i will try and refrain myself from posting in anymore of these 3dice threads.

    If you do not have EVIDENCE THEN DO NOT SLATE THEM. SIMPLES.
     
  24. Jul 20, 2017
  25. 3Dice

    3Dice I-Gaming Industry Representative

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    Narcos,

    You played 55 hands at 3Dice. I will hapilly post that log if you like but allow me to give you a fair warning first. 55 hands is not enough to say anything about fairness. In fact its not even enough to decide if you're having good or bad luck. There is something you can prove by publishing that .. but .. its not what you think.

    If you like I'll also publish the chat transcript (you know the one where you threatened to make forum posts if we did not refund your deposit, the one where you called Anna a liar and 'sweetie' in the same sentence). But again fair warning. There is something you can prove by publishing that .. but .. its not what you think.

    So let me know .. shall I ?

    Enzo.
     
  26. Jul 20, 2017
  27. Narcos

    Narcos Banned User - Acting like a jerk. PITA

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    post it...55 hands or not its obvious the game wasn't going to allow me to win not even $1 over my starting bet. So why do i need to play more and more hands, just to lose even more? You can have all the backing of this forum all you like. It still doesn't change the facts your BJ is rigged and it is. Your staff is rude and I am glad to be done with that place.
     
  28. Jul 20, 2017
  29. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    We have strict forum rules about harassing or threatening customer service staff. If Narcos is making these sort of threats, I need to know about it. Thanks!


    1.17 - Exploiting Your Membership Do not threaten casino operations with blackmail. Mentioning that you are a member is fine, but don't try to instill fear in a casino operation by threatening to post bad reviews or roguing them. Leave the roguing to Casinomeister - it's tricky business and not for amateurs.

    1.20 - Threatening or abusive behaviour: members who threaten or abuse casino representatives or their staff will be booted from the forum. Act like an a-hole - get treated like one.
    https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/faq.php?faq=forumrules#faq_general_posting_rules
     
  30. Jul 20, 2017
  31. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    So far the only person being rude is you. Quit acting like a jerk.
     
  32. Jul 20, 2017
  33. Narcos

    Narcos Banned User - Acting like a jerk. PITA

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    Man F you and this forum. It's so one sided its not even worth being here. With that being said kiss my a$$ and good riddance
     
  34. Jul 20, 2017
  35. bowlingbob

    bowlingbob Experienced Member

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    I appreciate your response and mostly I was just commenting about the 3dice blackjack. While I have no proof or evidence it was ever rigged when I played it I said it just felt like I wasn't getting a fair deal. Ran well below expectation for thousands of hands playing basic strategy. Like I said stupidly I kept playing it until I finally just had them ban the blackjack from my client and then I focused on their slots and still no luck there so I eventually closed my account and never looked back.

    As far as getting fked by them on payouts at the time I'll just say that Anna can be a very manipulative person and when I wanted to withdrawl a large random jackpot that I won I was given shit about it at the time and rather than the casino pay it I was told to broker it off via PayPal. $1700 worth. At the time I tried to oblige but then quickly realized most people wanted 10 or 20 bucks lol and it was going to take days to get it I got frustrated and chunked the rest of it off in blackjack. I was an experienced casinomeister member and I do put alot of blame on myself for not just coming here and making 3dice pay it like they should have. At the time I felt pissed off and yeah gambled it all back. Of all days to it was Christmas haha. Anyways I'm long past it I've had many casinos since then treat me right pay me fast and couldn't be happier gambling online. In fact just last week I won $10,000 off Game Art free spins from an online casino I play at with no wagering restrictions no max cashouts and when I submitted the withdrawl I was paid within 30 seeconds to my bitcoin wallet.

    I do have all the proof but whats the point. At the time Enzo partially made it right by me and its in the past now. Not sure why I brought it up other than the OP said support there was rude to him and I also experienced that with Anna and her pressuring me that day to broker all my winnings through paypal rather than just pay me from the casino. If I was a Euro player I'm sure I would have had zero issues getting paid. Who knows.

    I realize most people there report they have no issues getting paid ever by them. I was the unlucky one at that time that ran into problems.
     
  36. Jul 20, 2017
  37. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. :D

    Yes, one sided on what is fair, and what is not. You are making accusations and have been afforded the right to back it up with proof. But instead you decide to act like an a-hole.

    Anyway, it's pretty clear you've been banned here before. A lot of similarities with this account:
    https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/btc-listings.html

    :lolup:

    But even if that isn't you. Your account is shitcanned. Happy trails. :thumbsup:
     
  38. Jul 20, 2017
  39. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    Thanks for the detailed info.

    Well I can tell you that i was never asked this by Anna or any of the reps. I am in the UK though. I did try brokering a few times for some players. And for some reason they kept saying they couldn't send the money to my paypal. Even though I have a verified business paypal account. And i had no issues receiving funds from USA people over the years, and also from donations when i was a twitch streamer too.

    So maybe they had issues at their ends, but still i did try and broker when i had some wins but failed. I might try aqain in the future to test it again though.

    But i dont really have any comment about what Anna did ask you to do. Because i like Anna and the reps and i have no problems with them. but gl in that new casino anyway.
     

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