Irresponsible streamers & affiliates?

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Slotplayer83

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Roshtein must have tools to twist the outcome of a slot or a result; it's technically possible, and ive seen him do dodgy shit right before a "big win" landed. I think it's technically possible to hook or inject an outcome send to client; the game just produces the given result by the set of numbering. I mean i watch some streamers who legit drop in quite a few ETH's and that simply cant be faked. They try quite a few times betting 50 to 100 euro a spin or even up to 10k bonus buys. The way roshtein puts himself down is a very irresponsible individual making his audience believe that you could just be like him, that is if you signup by using his affiliate links.


Just watch his body language. It's not right. It's like he just clicked together right before it starts off. Rostein does'nt give a shit obviously; all he's in is the money, and in order to keep his streams "interesting" he has to go big bigger or even larger. Roshstein is pretty much everything that's wrong in the affiliate business. I hope it blows up quite soon.

Above moment in video is a bit weird. Some say it's a bug, but i played that game quite a few hours and i never had those buggy "wilds" suddenly appear after a spin like that. What he's doing is fraud. 1000%.
 

royalbonus20

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It does not matter where you stream, all viewers are pretty much the same, apart from twitch viewers are worse....... I stand by what I said though. Again it shows if you have a website already and you are a new streamer. You also made this post on this forum and this account in the exact same name for promotional reasons only to gain more exposure...... Sorry for being harsh. But just saying it how it is......
To Be Fair, I've posted no Links and such.

That's NOT what I am here.

I joined to have meaningful discussions with like minded people who like to play slots and am happy to complain about casinos/providers when they make mistakes.

I'm NOT here advertising my website in anyway. The only reason I even told you my YouTube username was because you asked.
 

Gaz237

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To Be Fair, I've posted no Links and such.

That's NOT what I am here.

I joined to have meaningful discussions with like minded people who like to play slots and am happy to complain about casinos/providers when they make mistakes.

I'm NOT here advertising my website in anyway. The only reason I even told you my YouTube username was because you asked.

Don't pay heed to anything DreamRJ says.

None of us do.
 

LoopsterAU

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Saw this live on Davo's stream last night and looks like someone has already uploaded it to Youtube.

Thought everyone here might like to have a bit of a laugh over it.


Davo calling Rosh while they both live on streams.
 

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Apologies if it's already been covered. I don't spend much time watching streams or youtube highlights of streams but from what I have seen, it's quite misleading when all the videos say HUGE WINS or MASSIVE WINS. If you look a bit closer many of these wins are paying out 300x, 400x, 500x and its the size of stake that makes people thing it's a huge win.
Each night there will be plenty of members of here who are hitting 500x wins.
The video above where roshstein wins £26k. It's only 500x but seems like he's getting these huge crushing wins at a higher percentage than the rest of us when the reality is that he'll get lots of these sized wins with the volume he plays.
 

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U.K. streamer STREAMED on twitch last night
At a casino that I thought didn’t accept U.K. players but obviously does if you have enough crypto in your wallet
Thoughts?
 

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I would argue all affiliates are irresponsible. A business that profits on players losses is not something to feel proud of. I envisage a world where we can play directly from the providers themselves, no more affiliates, no more streamers.
 

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Nothing the UKGC can do if it's at non regulated casinos.
Irresponsible tho isn’t it? All U.K. followers
What about the U.K. casinos that are regulated and their affiliate is promoting unregulated? Surely that’s just as bad as an affiliate promoting non gamstop casinos
 

colinsunderland

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Irresponsible tho isn’t it? All U.K. followers
What about the U.K. casinos that are regulated and their affiliate is promoting unregulated? Surely that’s just as bad as an affiliate promoting non gamstop casinos
yes of course, and if he is advertising his site it's against the rules. Pop his name on here or PM me and I'll do something about it if he's breaking the rules :)
 

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I would argue all affiliates are irresponsible. A business that profits on players losses is not something to feel proud of. I envisage a world where we can play directly from the providers themselves, no more affiliates, no more streamers.
There's a reason for affiliates. It's a very efficient and targeted method of advertising alongside, or instead of, hugely costly blanket advertising in the media. As affiliates, we are required to stay in line with ASA,LCCP/UKGC rules and the decent ones do.
If you object to say me getting a fixed fee for a player recruited, I take it you also object to the huge fees some casinos pay to Google for keywords for doing precisely nothing, not creating a website nor giving players or viewers reviews and often vital information which many affiliates endeavour to do?
I take it you are also aware that the casino's cost per player is far LESS when affiliates recruit them than it is on average for those signed up via TV or Radio or Newspaper ads?
That's why affiliates exist and all major online gambling businesses have money within their advertising budgets to pay them. At the end of the day, EVERY penny spent advertising comes from customer losses whichever the advertising medium - affiliates, TV, Radio or sponsoring some crappy soccer team.
The statement you make here comes up quite a lot to be fair. And I know why. In the case of say CM, or me, or a streamer you can put an individual's face to somebody who is earning from your and other player's losses. They become a target, a focus of resentment for some. I understand that. I really do. Because we aren't anonymous and faceless corporations like Talk Sport, ITV, Google or media companies that own newspapers and/or TV and radio outlets. And pro-rata we probably pay more tax than they do.
 

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Roshtein must have tools to twist the outcome of a slot or a result; it's technically possible, and ive seen him do dodgy shit right before a "big win" landed. I think it's technically possible to hook or inject an outcome send to client; the game just produces the given result by the set of numbering. I mean i watch some streamers who legit drop in quite a few ETH's and that simply cant be faked. They try quite a few times betting 50 to 100 euro a spin or even up to 10k bonus buys. The way roshtein puts himself down is a very irresponsible individual making his audience believe that you could just be like him, that is if you signup by using his affiliate links.


Just watch his body language. It's not right. It's like he just clicked together right before it starts off. Rostein does'nt give a shit obviously; all he's in is the money, and in order to keep his streams "interesting" he has to go big bigger or even larger. Roshstein is pretty much everything that's wrong in the affiliate business. I hope it blows up quite soon.

Above moment in video is a bit weird. Some say it's a bug, but i played that game quite a few hours and i never had those buggy "wilds" suddenly appear after a spin like that. What he's doing is fraud. 1000%.

I've had this on demo play .. still got the video somewhere...
Never saw this on real play though
 

johnnymcc1966

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There's a reason for affiliates. It's a very efficient and targeted method of advertising alongside, or instead of, hugely costly blanket advertising in the media. As affiliates, we are required to stay in line with ASA,LCCP/UKGC rules and the decent ones do.
If you object to say me getting a fixed fee for a player recruited, I take it you also object to the huge fees some casinos pay to Google for keywords for doing precisely nothing, not creating a website nor giving players or viewers reviews and often vital information which many affiliates endeavour to do?
I take it you are also aware that the casino's cost per player is far LESS when affiliates recruit them than it is on average for those signed up via TV or Radio or Newspaper ads?
That's why affiliates exist and all major online gambling businesses have money within their advertising budgets to pay them. At the end of the day, EVERY penny spent advertising comes from customer losses whichever the advertising medium - affiliates, TV, Radio or sponsoring some crappy soccer team.
The statement you make here comes up quite a lot to be fair. And I know why. In the case of say CM, or me, or a streamer you can put an individual's face to somebody who is earning from your and other player's losses. They become a target, a focus of resentment for some. I understand that. I really do. Because we aren't anonymous and faceless corporations like Talk Sport, ITV, Google or media companies that own newspapers and/or TV and radio outlets. And pro-rata we probably pay more tax than they do.
'Soccer?' WTF is that? You've now lost all credibility with me!!!:laugh:
 

Mr_Slot5

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I believe he's just today hit a million on that No Limit book of shadows game...

Where does this all end? Already up to 1 million+ balances and in the bid to outdo each other we're seeing streamers spin higher and higher. What next, 10 million euro balances??
 
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ROSH wins one million on Horus casino
Horus casino directors/management conversation ‘you can have 10% only paid over 5 years’
 

Davey86

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€1.4 million balance €400 spins how far do you think they can go?
general question has a curacao casino got the funds for this kind of bets high stakes?
 

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Just watched a bit of his chat.

Spins on 400...... wins 12,000..... chat goes mad...... chair is printing money

It is 30x ffs

Irresponsible on the part of whatever shit casino he is streaming from.
 

Mr_Slot5

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€1.4 million balance €400 spins how far do you think they can go?
general question has a curacao casino got the funds for this kind of bets high stakes?
I don't think it can go on the way it is for too much longer. That is of course unless the providers start further increasing the max bets for streamers.

Think about it, the further up you push the bets, the more of a rod for your own back you're making. Viewers will soon start getting bored if the bet sizes plateau out. 'Oh just another 1 million euro win then, is that it?' It's not in any way a sustainable business model...but I'm guessing it's not intended to be. They'll make hay then disappear into the sunset when it all collapses.
 
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