Internet Gambling Funding Prevention Act

chop-choi

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The U.S. Senate is set to vote on the Internet Gambling Prevention Act (S. 627) in September. If passed, this act will prohibit financial institutions from transferring funds to internet gamling sites. I hope the American readers of this forum will write their Senators, expressing their opposition to this act. If that is too much trouble, there is a website that has a form letter you can send. The site is called profreedom.com. I get an error message when I type the name into my browser. However, going to Captain Cooks Casino, and clickicking the link with the American flag will get you there.
 

sw2003

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chop-choi said:
The U.S. Senate is set to vote on the Internet Gambling Prevention Act (S. 627) in September. If passed, this act will prohibit financial institutions from transferring funds to internet gamling sites. I hope the American readers of this forum will write their Senators, expressing their opposition to this act. If that is too much trouble, there is a website that has a form letter you can send. The site is called profreedom.com. I get an error message when I type the name into my browser. However, going to Captain Cooks Casino, and clickicking the link with the American flag will get you there.
I thought that we couldn't use credit cards, bank accounts for depositing money into the casinos already. So how will that act do anything outside of what is already in place. Third party like NETeller, Click2pay are not located in the US and are therefore outside US jurisdiction. No?
 

chop-choi

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How it works is, they will make a list of on-line gaming sites, and once a site is on the list, financial institutions won't be allowed to transact business with those sites. Neteller is not based in the U.S., and doesn't even have an office here (smart move), so they are beyond the law's jurisdictions. From what I read, it didn't seem like the law would prohibit U.S. banks from doing business with Neteller. But then again, whoever is responsible for making the list will probably realize that most people don't deposit their funds directly to the casinos, but use 3rd parties instead. I doubt that anyone would stop them from adding those 3rd parties to the list.
I emailed Neteller to inquire what implications the act, if passed into law, would have on my Neteller use, but they haven't responded yet. I'll post as soon as I get a reply.
 

sw2003

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chop-choi said:
How it works is, they will make a list of on-line gaming sites, and once a site is on the list, financial institutions won't be allowed to transact business with those sites. Neteller is not based in the U.S., and doesn't even have an office here (smart move), so they are beyond the law's jurisdictions. From what I read, it didn't seem like the law would prohibit U.S. banks from doing business with Neteller. But then again, whoever is responsible for making the list will probably realize that most people don't deposit their funds directly to the casinos, but use 3rd parties instead. I doubt that anyone would stop them from adding those 3rd parties to the list.
I emailed Neteller to inquire what implications the act, if passed into law, would have on my Neteller use, but they haven't responded yet. I'll post as soon as I get a reply.

They can't do much to NETeller or Click2pay since these two can be used for paying things other than gambling. If the government want to go overboard, they can forbid US banks from doing business with NETeller or Click2pay but this seems to be excessive and not a very good solution. If they do go down that road, this will be the end of online gambling in the US unless ..................... unless we all set up Swissbank accounts and pay our gambling habit from there. There is no way they can forbid US bank to foreign bank transactions since this is like cutting major arteries to the financial world body.

Oh god, I am devious!
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chop-choi

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It could also be that they intentionally made this law weak in order to reduce opposition, in hopes of amending it with a stronger version later. If the supporters of this bill asked for everything they wanted, they wouldn't likely get it. But, if they ask for just a little, then that doesn't work, they will have a much easier time getting a harsher law enacted.
Also, never underestimate the ability of the U.S. government to twist the language of a statute in order affectuate the desired result.
 

Stanford

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sw2003 said:
They can't do much to NETeller or Click2pay since these two can be used for paying things other than gambling. If the government want to go overboard, they can forbid US banks from doing business with NETeller or Click2pay but this seems to be excessive and not a very good solution. If they do go down that road, this will be the end of online gambling in the US unless ..................... unless we all set up Swissbank accounts and pay our gambling habit from there. There is no way they can forbid US bank to foreign bank transactions since this is like cutting major arteries to the financial world body.


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I am not sure what this means. Neteller has acccount in U.S. banks. Do they transfer from those accounts to Casinos? I don't know.

And ProcCyber has accounts in U.S. banks. Will they be forbidden to issuing checks to players?

Again, I am not sure. I am just watching right now. I think it prudent for voters to contact their Senators.

Stanford
 

jpm

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Contact your senators, but do it by TELEPHONE. I've heard more than one interviewed on tv & radio who say that these form letters/faxes/emails just go right in the trash when they get them. They don't even read them. They pay much more attention to someone who calls directly.
 

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Personally I hope they pass it. Maybe I can then sleep at night :D
 

dominique

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The link to the place to register your complaint is
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.


This site is set up by PROFESSIONALS!

They handle the gathered complaints properly so each DOES get counted. This service is funded by a whole bunch of casinos of all descriptions and you can trust it to handle your complaint efficiently and so that it will make the greatest impact.

Of course, calling on the phone is always a great idea, and can be quite interesting.

They try to pass one law or another against online gaming every year. So far we have been able to deflect all of them, with www.profreedom.com playing a large role in it.

Please do spend the couple minutes it takes to register.
 

ih8hank

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You know they tried that crap here in australia lol but it didnt work we went elsewhere with our money, preventing us from gambling within Australian online casinos like lasseters was the biggest money making mistake they made, we took our business off shore and now the offshore casinos are collecting the revenue, if the Australian government was smart they would have let us continue with our own casinos, imagine the revenue they could pull in but then lets face it no one has ever accused a politician of being smart.

I am so sick of the do gooders who the hell are they to say how we can and cant spend our money that WE earn. Enough is enough we are supposed to be free democratic countries but instead we have commies running the place, be damned if they will stop me from doing what i enjoy.

Kris
 

jpm

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dominique said:
The link to the place to register your complaint is
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.


This site is set up by PROFESSIONALS!

They handle the gathered complaints properly so each DOES get counted. This service is funded by a whole bunch of casinos of all descriptions and you can trust it to handle your complaint efficiently and so that it will make the greatest impact.

Of course, calling on the phone is always a great idea, and can be quite interesting.

They try to pass one law or another against online gaming every year. So far we have been able to deflect all of them, with www.profreedom.com playing a large role in it.

Please do spend the couple minutes it takes to register.
Whether its setup by 'PROFESSIONALS' or chimps doesn't change the fact that form letters are largely ignored by your senators and representatives by their own admission! They recognize them as form letters and chuck them in the trash. I've heard them admit this more than once.

If you want to do a one of these 'professional' form letters, then by all means have a blast, but if you want your voice heard, CALL THEM. That advice comes directly the people you are trying to influence.
 

dominique

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I am ill equipped to argue the point, and I am also definitely in favor of calling. Even just tying up the phone lines is useful. A personal well presented call is wonderful, no argument there.

Unfortunately I am not privy to exactly how profreedom is handling this, but it is not a usual bulk submission of letters. These guys are lobbyists, professional lobbyists. They know more about how to do this than the lot of us put together.
 

sw2003

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ih8hank said:
You know they tried that crap here in australia lol but it didnt work we went elsewhere with our money, preventing us from gambling within Australian online casinos like lasseters was the biggest money making mistake they made, we took our business off shore and now the offshore casinos are collecting the revenue, if the Australian government was smart they would have let us continue with our own casinos, imagine the revenue they could pull in but then lets face it no one has ever accused a politician of being smart.

I am so sick of the do gooders who the hell are they to say how we can and cant spend our money that WE earn. Enough is enough we are supposed to be free democratic countries but instead we have commies running the place, be damned if they will stop me from doing what i enjoy.

Kris
I agree what right has the government to infringe upon our personal freedom.
It is basically none of their business. If they are afraid that all that money is going overseas, they should legalize and regulate online casinos in their own country. Otherwise they should stay the hell out of our private lives.
 

sw2003

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jpm said:
Whether its setup by 'PROFESSIONALS' or chimps doesn't change the fact that form letters are largely ignored by your senators and representatives by their own admission! They recognize them as form letters and chuck them in the trash. I've heard them admit this more than once.

If you want to do a one of these 'professional' form letters, then by all means have a blast, but if you want your voice heard, CALL THEM. That advice comes directly the people you are trying to influence.

I tend to agree. Do any of you guys like the copy and paste impersonal email replies that you got from casinos when you tried to ask them something? More often than not, these emails don't even give answers to what we were asking. If you don't like them, how can you expect your senators to like generic letters. So I agree absolutely that the most effective ways to make a point on a person to person basis is to call them directly.
 
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jpm

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A good friend of mine that I've known since about 3rd or 4th grade is my rep now, so I've got a little inside knowledge as to how they do business there. Calling definitely makes more of an impression on them, as do handwritten letters, but those are alot less likely to happen these days and calling is a whole lot easier (and satisfying I think).
 
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