intercasino's roulette random???????

[markey111]

intercasino roulette is a random number generator ? pull the other one, I have never seen such a rigged roulette in my life. picture this....
my chips at the table $957 all numbers covered except 22, 25, 36 and 8, 11, 21, 24 half covered (split) with a total stake value of $53 per spin. In the space of 25 spins 36 came out 6 times (two doubles) 22 came out 5 times (two doubles) 25 came out 5 times and once each for 8, 21,24 (All to exclamations of amazement from other players in chat) most of these numbers can be seen on a screen shot I took with my digi cam.( I could not believe what I was watching on the screen) Coinsidence.....I think not!

 

[maxfalcon]

most of these numbers can be seen on a screen shot I took with my digi cam.

Could you please post your screen shot?

 

[sirius]

http://www.faircasinos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1577#1577
Here are the InterCasino roulette screenshots

 

[bethug]

i dont mess with intercasino or any wagerlogic roulette. I seen your screen shot and i believe you , cause the same thing happen over and over to me about two years ago.

 

[dirk_dangerous]

i dont mess with intercasino or any wagerlogic roulette. I seen your screen shot and i believe you , cause the same thing happen over and over to me about two years ago.

I personally believe that Cryptologic software is rigged. Why not contact the Wizard or Gamemaster and send them screen shots of what happened.

You should also contact Intercasino and ask for your play logs (they won't give them, but you will have their denial on record.

 

[caruso]

He doesn't need to request logs, he can just click on the log viewer.

 

[Tester]

1) We wait for the logs.

2) Given the details we heard, the probability is:
3.49207E-12 or 1/286,363,360,030

Please remember that there were lots of sessions in InterCasino, and lots of things to look for. So one should multiply the number above in many tousands (maybe millions). But there is no clear cut formula for that.

But even after multiplying in how much you want for the sake of safety, the case as presented can never occur in a fair game

details for the calculation below:

my chips at the table $957 all numbers covered except 22, 25, 36 and 8, 11, 21, 24 half covered (split) with a total stake value of $53 per spin. In the space of 25 spins 36 came out 6 times (two doubles) 22 came out 5 times (two doubles) 25 came out 5 times and once each for 8, 21,24 (All to exclamations of amazement from other players in chat) most of these numbers can be seen on a screen shot I took with my digi cam.( I could not believe what I was watching on the screen) Coinsidence.....I think not!

bottom line:

31 numbers fully covered.
3 numbers half covered
3 numbers not covered.

25 spins. 6 times covered numbers. 3 times half covered. 16 times uncovered numbers.

the probability for 16 out of of 25 spins to fall on the 3 uncovered numbers is
binom(25,16,3/37
(and in Excel=BINOMDIST(9,25,34/37,1)).

One can also calculate the half covered numbers, but the probability will be higher (i.e. more probable), and the calculation will be less eeasy since there are 8 not completely covered numbers in the picture here Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) )

 

[hhcfreebie]

1) We wait for the logs.

2) Given the details we heard, the probability is:
3.49207E-12 or 1/286,363,360,030

bottom line:

31 numbers fully covered.
3 numbers half covered
3 numbers not covered.

I got the exact same number using basic probability formula. This is the chance to have not-covered number come out 16 times or more out of 25 trials.
It's time for inter casino to come up with some explainations.

 

[DeMango]

Truely Amazing figures, hope to see the logs out in the open.

 

[caruso]

If that one in three hundred billion figure is correct, then it'll be proof - against my own opinion - that Cryptologic is rigged.

 

[hhcfreebie]

Any progress on getting the play log?

 

[gfkostas]

Logs????? That can't be right and i have always trusted Cryptologic.Someone from InterCasino should come here and explain the situation.Am mystified

 

[bethug]

gfkostas, there is no explaition but straight out fixed. That why i dont play there as much, barract is fixed too. I said this over two years ago.

I will stick to the safe rtg casinos and casino on net and casino 356 for now

 

[DeMango]

Since I haven't seen any logs which can be pulled up by the player, I will have to conclude all this is false. I will gladly eat these words but it doesn't take but a moment to cut and paste the logs to this forum. The silence since several posters have asked is deafening!

 

[hhcfreebie]

There is still the screen shot. Some how the link is disabled in this thread but you can still use copy/past to see the picture.
On the screen shot, I see 7 of the uncovered number showing within 15 spins. In this case, it would be 8.25027e-5, or 1 in 12,121 to have 7 or more uncovered numbers showing within 15 spins. Although it's still very unlikely, it's within the possible range. It's more common than royal flush btw.

 

[gfkostas]

Since I haven't seen any logs which can be pulled up by the player, I will have to conclude all this is false. I will gladly eat these words but it doesn't take but a moment to cut and paste the logs to this forum. The silence since several posters have asked is deafening!

Yeah where are the bloody logs??

 

[Tester]

Sirius?

Sirius, I guess you have a contact wiht this guy.

Maybe you can get him extracting the logs?

 

[sirius]

He posted this message about Intercasino on a few forums at the same time, including mine. He didn't know about the log viewer in the software but I explained to him how to access the logs. The log viewer is known to be a bit buggy (in blackjack at least) so I've now advised him to also get a copy from Intercasino to make sure it is correct. I haven't heard from him recently though and maybe he hasn't checked the boards in the last few days.

 

[markey111]

re logs

I deleted intercasino from my computer in disgust, when I was told about the log viewer and re installed, the log viewer was blank. All I can get from the site are my deposits. I have asked intercasino for my logs for the relevent dates and i am awaiting their reply.

 

[sirius]

The main assertion about the uncovered numbers appearing 16 times in 25 spins is unlikely to the point of being impossible (many billions to one chance- =1/BINOMDIST(9,25,34/37,1) = 286363000000 > 286 billion).

If you go by what is seen on the screenshot, the uncovered numbers showed up 7 times out of 15. It is probably not true that in the other 10 spins either side of the time of the screenshots, that the uncovered numbers showed up 9 times out of 10 (to make 16 out of 25) so maybe what was stated before wasn't accurate.

The formula for this in Excel: =1/BINOMDIST(8,15,34/37,1) = 12120.82 so the odds are unlikely but not very unusual given the number of spins of roulette happening at this casino and something similar is sure to happen there quite regularly (probably about once per week). It is not something that a player should expect to happen, though.

markey111 at the moment is trying to get Intercasino to confirm the play logs so we know exactly what happened.

 

[halix]

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[markey111]

no reply yet ..so much for them replying to customers in 24 hrs
AND I actually got an email asking me to vote for them in return for a prize.....if that aint rigging i dont know what is yes intercasino i just might.

 

[gfkostas]

Their support is very slow. No.1 casino on the net? Nahhh not likely

 

[markey111]

logs

got the logs but how do I open them ...just keep getting 'page cannot be displayed' message. do i need to have intercasino installed?

 

[sirius]

Markey posted a text copy of the email he received from Intercasino with the logs. I think it has links to the detailed logs in the actual email but not in the copied version. I think it requires Excel or equivalent to view the detailed logs and he may not have it installed. I'm still waiting for him to get back to me about it.

I tried formatting the logs from the email and posted it in an HTML table in the forum (I'm not sure which entries correspond to the roulette results though). You can view it here:
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