Intercasino KingKong 750 free spins $1,25 bet pay $644

1366613

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Deposit $50, and got 150:eek: freespins, then won another 4:eek: repeat freespins, 150 each, total 750:eek: freespins
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SlotMonster

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$644 / ($1.25 * 750) = 0.6869(7)
If it weren't free spins, average return would be about 68%
 

5250phil

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i once got the retrigger on 150 spins 20 times

played for over an hr in free spins alone

gave me $1670 in the end

very poor payout on a free spin feature
 

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i once got the retrigger on 150 spins 20 times

played for over an hr in free spins alone

gave me $1670 in the end

very poor payout on a free spin feature

Wow, with that amount of Free Spins (150x20) I would be more than satisfied and wouldn't play that day anymore.
By the way, what was your bet size, phil?
 

zap987

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Isn't it kinda obvious that a game that can even give 750 or even 3000 freespins will have a large part of RTP in those freespins and that the payout % for normal spins will be low?
 

slotobob

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i think the biggest part of rtp comes from the king kong goes ape feature
and you cant get that in freespins thats why the spins suck
 

Sovietsky

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Does anyone know if there are other games like king kong that can give that many free spins? I got once 300 free spins on king kong.
 

me_and_ed

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Does anyone know if there are other games like king kong that can give that many free spins? I got once 300 free spins on king kong.

Rain Dance from RTG, tough to get though the 5 scatters to tigger the 100 spins at X5, most of the time you will get a retrigger and will hit the max payout for the game, as well there is a Dolphin Game from RTG (cant remember name). Native Treasure from Crypto also can give 100 spins.
 

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Slots that give a lot of free spins also have a lot of dead spins. Same thing happens with land based slots that give 300-500 free spins.

You should all know by now that the total win of the free spins round is predetermined by the RNG when the feature is triggered, so the amount of free spins doesn't really matters. The free spins themselves aren't random.
 

KasinoKing

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Does anyone know if there are other games like king kong that can give that many free spins? I got once 300 free spins on king kong.
A few Rival slots give anything from 75 to 125 free-spins for 5 scatters - and they are re-triggerable.
But I don't know of any slots, other than those already mentioned, which have the potential for many 100s of free-spins.


You should all know by now that the total win of the free spins round is predetermined by the RNG when the feature is triggered, so the amount of free spins doesn't really matters. The free spins themselves aren't random.
... in YOUR opinion.
I disagree, as you know, and I don't think you should be posting your opinion as if it is a FACT unless you can post some evidence to back it up.

In my opinion the free-spins on most of the major online software supplier's slots are random.

KK
 

Balthazar

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... in YOUR opinion.
I disagree, as you know, and I don't think you should be posting your opinion as if it is a FACT unless you can post some evidence to back it up.

xxhttp://www.casinorng.com/Brain-of-Casino-Software.html

xxhttp://www.ukonlinecasinos.co/casino-gambling-101/online-casino-random-number-generator-rng.html

xxhttp://www.lucky-at-gambling.com/facts-online-casino.html
 

Jasminebed

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3 Dice's Payola offers 78 free spins, and can be retriggered. I know I've hit 400 spins on it at least once in real.

Slotronicon offers the potential for unlimited free spins, I've been told that someone exceeded 900.
 

rainmaker

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But I don't know of any slots, other than those already mentioned, which have the potential for many 100s of free-spins.

I saw the other day that a player at Redbet managed to get 100 free spins on NetEnt's Victorious game. Not 100s of free spins but still a decent amount for a NetEnt slot. These 100 spins paid €7,547, not sure how much he bet :)
 

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xxhttp://www.casinorng.com/Brain-of-Casino-Software.html

xxhttp://www.ukonlinecasinos.co/casino-gambling-101/online-casino-random-number-generator-rng.html

xxhttp://www.lucky-at-gambling.com/facts-online-casino.html
Thanks for that! :thumbsup:
None of those articles say free-spins are pre-determined "en-block" or contradict in any way the way I believe online slots work.
I think actually we do agree that the outcome of any spin or feature is determined by an RNG: i.e. it is a completely random event which is not influenced at all with any "tweaking" by the casino or the software itself, or influenced by any of the players previous good or bad luck. It's just that we are explaining it two different ways.

KK
 

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Thanks for that! :thumbsup:
None of those articles say free-spins are pre-determined "en-block" or contradict in any way the way I believe online slots work.
I think actually we do agree that the outcome of any spin or feature is determined by an RNG: i.e. it is a completely random event which is not influenced at all with any "tweaking" by the casino or the software itself, or influenced by any of the players previous good or bad luck. It's just that we are explaining it two different ways.

KK

A while ago on Immortal Romance, when my free spins started, the winbox on top of the screen already showed the total win of the 10 spins before the first spin even started.

Now how do you explain that?

Or just look how it places the Wildvines on Sahra's spins.
Random? No way..
 

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Offcourse its not random (the reels), you can even see if you will get the 3 scatter on thunderstruk 2, just spin and quickly press "stats" if it says 0.90 (on 0.90bet) you wont get the bonus but if its 0 it means the bonus is coming. this also works for storm feature and all other spins as the stats says what you win, long before the reels is done spinning.
 
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offcourse its not random, you can even see if you will get the 3 scatter on thunderstruk 2, just spin and quickly press "stats" if it says 0.90 u wont get the bonus but if its 0 it means the bonus is coming. this also works for storm feature and all other spins as the stats says what you win long before the reels is done spinning.

That's because you have pushed the spinbutton already. The game knows what it will pay before the wheels have landed.
With free spins it should be different, but at least I believe with all MG's games it's already settled when they start.
Other softwares I don't know, but when it comes to RTG and the 100+ free spinrounds, you almost always end up with the max payout anyway.
I hope we will find the answer sometime, but whatever. I'll still like a good free spin round:D
 

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A while ago on Immortal Romance, when my free spins started, the winbox on top of the screen already showed the total win of the 10 spins before the first spin even started.

There are plenty of evidences like that that the FS aren't random (they were triggered randomly and the total win was random, but individual spins aren't).

While it's not stated in IR, I've seen slots with multiple FS "choices" (e.g. pick 10 free spins at x5 OR 20 free spins at x3, etc) where in the rules, it says specifically that your pick does NOT influence the outcome.

I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money that in IR, you get the exact same outcome wheather you choose the 1st feature, the 2nd, the 3rd or the 4th.
 

Balthazar

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Offcourse its not random (the reels), you can even see if you will get the 3 scatter on thunderstruk 2, just spin and quickly press "stats" if it says 0.90 (on 0.90bet) you wont get the bonus but if its 0 it means the bonus is coming. this also works for storm feature and all other spins as the stats says what you win, long before the reels is done spinning.

I'd never do that on the storm feature, that would ruin the fun! But yes, looking at the stats is just like clicking on the "stop" button (when available): you see the result that the RNG gave you without the need of the "spinning reels".
 

Osloking

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There are plenty of evidences like that that the FS aren't random (they were triggered randomly and the total win was random, but individual spins aren't).

While it's not stated in IR, I've seen slots with multiple FS "choices" (e.g. pick 10 free spins at x5 OR 20 free spins at x3, etc) where in the rules, it says specifically that your pick does NOT influence the outcome.

I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money that in IR, you get the exact same outcome wheather you choose the 1st feature, the 2nd, the 3rd or the 4th.

My question will be if you chose wine feature you can win the jackpot wich is all wild and the payout will be 3.600$ on 0.30bet
but if you chose any other feature you cannot win that, this mean it has to make a difference in what you pick?

I remember one guy won 24.300£ a while ago at 32red, he picked the Loki feature at the thunderstruckII and got full wild.
 

vinylweatherman

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A while ago on Immortal Romance, when my free spins started, the winbox on top of the screen already showed the total win of the 10 spins before the first spin even started.

Now how do you explain that?

Or just look how it places the Wildvines on Sahra's spins.
Random? No way..



Unless spins 2-10 were all dud, this is pretty damning. Did you get a screenshot. If I had spotted this, I would be keen to recreate the situation and produce a damning set of screenshots, or better still, a video.

This was a known bug in MGS, but in a sequence of 10 free spins, the bug should only ever be able to show the win from the first spin before the reels stop, as the others haven't happened yet, and would need 9 more sets of random numbers to determine the outcomes of each spin. The bug did also show the outcome of a pick bonus before the player had finished picking.
 
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