Inter-Casino Progressive Jackpot Games

[dave_r]

Bryan (Admin) said:
"Another thing that kinda blows Dave's conspiracy theory out of the water (at least for MG casinos) is that MG has had a falling out with a number of their liscencees..."

In my Feb 12 message I state:
"LACK OF REGULATION IS THE CASINO'S LICENSE TO STEAL YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. Most of the time, the casino licensee isn't aware of the theft going on. This entire scam is usually perpetrated by the software developer."

The objective of most software devlopers is to maintain credibility and integrity with thier licensees. After all, if a software developer is stealing from thier players, they may be stealing from thier licensees as well.

 

[dave_r]

There is enormous evidence to support my allegation that Forward Slash/Proc Cyber Services are part of Microgaming's total turnkey solution.
I personally believe they are both owned by MGS. At the very least, they are in league with one another. Forward Slash (a South African marketing outfit) used to be known as VR Services prior to being renamed Forward Slash. Now go to Network Solutions and do a whois lookup for www.vrserv.com. Then do another search for Microgaming.com. Same EXACT address in Isle of Man. All info is current. Now remember when Proc Cyber sent out its INFINIA card. On the back of the original envelope there was a sticker with a Canadian address on it (Thornhill Ontario). Pull off that sticker, and wallah!! You find the true address for INFINIA. You guessed it:
19A Floral St
Covent Garden
WC2E9DS - London, UK
*Same* address as the MGS world headquarters

I have NO WAY to confirm that Microgaming's jackpots are for real, since Microgaming itself REFUSES to part with evidence. Its possible everything is legit, and I am certainly not making any accusations. All I am saying is that anytime a software devloper and ecash company are cahoots with one another, a casino licensee no longer has any way of knowing FOR SURE if the jackpots are real.

 

[Casinomeister]

Hi Dave,

Here is a screenshot submitted by one of our forum members who wishes to remain anonymous for now.
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/images/screenshots/fruit_fiesta_win.html

I wish I made this screenshot from my computer

~b

 

[dave_r]

Let me turn this discussion away from Microgaming, and make it into a general discussion of all online casino software developers:

Cheating scenario #1:

Let's assume a dishonest software company has NETWORK progressive jackpots between 20 of its casinos. Ofcourse there would be a few winners that are real. The rest of the names are fake or shills. Now each casino licensee is aware anytime a major jackpot is won at thier casino. Robyn U. wins a jackpot of $94,201 at XYZ Casino. There is major publicity involving her win. 1)The casino emails all of its players to tell them about her win. 2)A press release is issued over the newswires and to major netgambling publications. 3)Robyn U's name is now listed at the software company's jackpot portal. The casino now contacts the ecash company (or vice versa) to make payout arrangements. A senior administrator in the "security" wing of of the ecash company is informed. After 2 weeks, security informs XYZ Casino that the player has faxed her identity (the front and back of her state ID card + address verification) to the ecash company. Also XYZ Casino is informed that $4400 will go back to the customer's Firepay acct, and that the other $89,600 will be paid via check directly to the customer. The licensee now tries to contact the customer by telephone to congrtulate her. A message is left on the customer's voice mail.

All is well. The licensee believes the jackpot has been paid, and has no reason to doubt the software company. But let's say this one time this licensee is paranoid and wants to know his winner IS real. He protests and demands evidence. The ecash company refuses to part with it. They need to keep the players info under "lock and key" for the sake of security. The ecash company holds onto a bad fax of a fake ID just incase problems arise. Also, since the jackpot was paid by the software company to the ecash company and then directly to the player, the licensee need not be involved in the process.

This so called secrutiy expert at the ecash company is in on the whole scam, and knows not a cent has been paid to anyone. The software company has therefore saved themselves $94,201.
At the same time, the huge publicity is priceless, and generates for them a wealth of new suckers who will join XYZ casino with a very generous 200% sign up bonus.

There's no reason to squeal since the jackpot
has brought in enough new players to increase
XYZ's casino's business by 25%.

SQUEAL TO WHOM?
THERE'S NO CONTROLLING LEGAL AUTHORITY!

 

[dave_r]

correction: balance to check = 89,802

 

[dave_r]

Haha, remember when Mike (Hitmob, Radio Boy, Foofoo) interviewed the $1 MILLION winner of Oriental Casino's contest LIVE on Casinogazette.com??

Does anyone really believe this prize is legit. Did Bossmedia ever come forth with evidence of this?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Diary of a millionaire
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

In January 2001, Susanne Uebler from Long Island, New York State, USA
won $1,000,000 in Oriental Casino. Now, just over a year later, she
explains how winning the money completely changed her life...

"My life did change quite a lot and I am happy as can be. I had the
chance to finish school without the pressure of having to work and all
my bills were paid and it was really fantastic to go to the beach
during the week.

I bought a 36ft. motor home that, thanks to the casino, is completely
paid off. My boyfriend and I left at the beginning of January to drive
to Key West in Florida, where we enjoyed two fabulous months in the
sun.

All this would not be possible without Oriental Casino. My life is
great".

Susanne promises she'll keep us posted on everything she gets up to
over
the coming months as she continues to enjoy her million dollar
lifestyle.

 

[jetset]

Has anyone come forward with evidence that it was NOT legit? The burden of proof usually rests with the accuser.

I was in liaison with Mike Craig on other matters when this particular exercise was in progress and I can tell you that he was enthusiastic and acting in the genuine belief (which has yet to be overturned btw) that the win was one hundred percent genuine.

I guess there will always be cynicism and negative innuendo when positive things like jackpot hits come along - perhaps the answer would be for the companies involved to have the award certified by an independent third party audit - but then there would probably be someone saying the audit company was in their pocket. Where does it end?

People worldwide who win big on lotteries and jackpots often do not want to be identified for a variety of reasons, and it is right in my view that their wishes in this regard be respected - imagine yourself in that fortunate position! That always provides fertile ground for those who wish to cast doubt on the whole concept of jackpots.

 

[Casinomeister]

Oh *yawn*

Back to this I see...

When I was at the ICE 2001 in London (along with Mike) we chanced upon the Boss Media booth, and lo and behold on their computer screens was their winner exclaiming her happiness at winning this lucky prize...

If it wasn't a legitimate win, would Boss Media be flaunting this at their booth for thousands of people to question and scrutinize? I don't think so. It wouldn't have been a smart move.

~b

 

[dave_r]

Jetset said...

"...perhaps the answer would be for the companies involved to have the award certified by an independent third party audit - but then there would probably be someone saying the audit company was in their pocket. Where does it end?"

Jetset, you're 200% right.

A major accounting firm needs to be involved,
and certify that the winnings are legitimate.
I may be paranoid, BUT EVEN *I* WOULD NOT ACCUSE A MAJOR ACCOUNTING FIRM being bought off by the software developer. (With the possible exception of Aurthur Andersen.) The accounting firm just needs to verify the transfer of funds from point A to point B, certify that the person receiving the funds is REAL. The accounting firm will then obtain a copy of the player's drivers license or other ID on file as proof.) Also the accounting firm will obtain a copy of the players banking details.

There are a couple of internet lotteries that had thier major prizes certified by KPMG.

So it is absolutely do-able. Why should players take an internet casino's WORD for granted.

We, THE PLAYERS, have been lied to TOO MANY TIMES.