Insiderslotsecrets Scam Alert (was "Is this worthwhile?")

[paulpop]

Hi Bryan and fellow gamers,

THinking more along the lines of playing slots at a land-based has anyone ever heard or bought "Insider Slot Secrets"? Yes another scam perhaps but just wanted to get some feedback. It costs $47 and of course comes with the 90-day "money back" guarantee. The seller is Giancarlo Capuccio.

Please let me know what you think?


Regards,
Paul

 

[Casinomeister]

Hi Paul,

Is this a book? CD? What? Do they have a website to check out? If so, please let us know. Thanks!

 

[paulpop]

Here ya go...

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Bryan or anyone else, your thoughts are appreciated!


Thanks!


Paul

 

[Casinomeister]

I would take this info he's selling with a grain of salt, since it's the casinos that set the payouts for their slot machines. He may have some good insider advice for how a casino stategically places machines that have a higher payout ratio than others (highly trafficed areas, close to payphones, etc.). But then I don't know since I have never read any of his material.

It may be easier or profitable to learn how to count cards at BJ.

But then, it's only $47, and he does back it up with this:

Remember, I'm taking all the risk when you download my system! I want you to read it, understand it and try it out for a full 3 months completely RISK FREE. If for any reason my eBook doesn't work for you, then send it back for a full, no questions asked, hassle free, money back refund!

If you think it's bogus, send it back.

 

[gfkostas]

Too good to be true for me

 

[paulpop]

Thanks to both of you for your input!

Paul

 

[gfkostas]

That guy states:You'll see measurable in your game and will guarrantee make of 500$ per day playing the slots machines in any casino worldwide.

If that is true then i can go for 'shopping' in London and beat the hell ouf of the casinos.Isn't it to good to be true?
Moreover I couldn't find any email contact address plus he advertises some bogus casinos.

 

[Falconfira]

this guys info...

REGISTRANT INFO

Registrant
Giancarlo Capuccio
Giancarlo Capuccio
gcapuccio@a1.net
Burggasse 112/36
Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
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Administrative
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Giancarlo Capuccio
gcapuccio@a1.net
Burggasse 112/36
Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
+1.6769112732

Billing
Giancarlo Capuccio
Giancarlo Capuccio
gcapuccio@a1.net
Burggasse 112/36
Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
+1.6769112732

Technical
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Giancarlo Capuccio
gcapuccio@a1.net
Burggasse 112/36
Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
+1.6769112732

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[BettyBoop]

Still thinking about it

I see some time has elapsed since last post about Giancarlo Capuccio's
slot secrets. An on line downloadable e book ONLY.

The first time I visited his link and clicked to leave a special offer of $37.00 popped up, original was $47.00. Today the special offer does not come up, so must know it was 'me' again.

He says on his link that a 90 day guarantee, if not happy, then he will send money back and no return of the ebook is necessary, and keep the bonus info. Well duh, how do you return an ebook anyhow??

Questions
#1. How does one get a refund on a credit card charge by Ciancarlo C.?
#2. Has anyone gone for this offer YET? - downloaded tried and used 90 days and gotten a refund.?

Also on his link he says, he will only have the offer on line for a limited time.
Questions
#3. Is this so he can run with the cash and link will be GONE.
#4. WHO would go after him for a mere $47.00 or $37.00, attorney fees yah dah yah dah?



Am I just suspicious or just plain stupid???

 

[swampwitch]

Boy, Giancarlo gets around.....

Hmm, let's see.....we already know he can beat the slots....

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He's also a "a renowned tennis all star and European sports celebrity"....so of course he can tell you how to get rich with this affiliate program....Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

And, yes, he knows all about luck and witchcraft...and will sell you those secrets, too....

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What? No free Ipods?

 

[GrandMaster]

Good research, swampwitch. There is actually a tennis player called Giancarlo Capuccio, but there is no record of him winning or even being placed in a major tournament, so the claims of him being a celebrity or top 20 player appear to be exaggerated. If he were really a top tennis player, would he need to sell this sort of junk?

 

[jpm]

I'll give you the info in a nutshell that you'll find in virtually all of these 'slots secrets' books.

First they tell you to look for a slot that has only a 2 coin requirement for max bet, and a wild or multiplier symbol. Once you've found this (and they tend to be less prevalent than 3 coin or higher machines), play the $1 or $5 machines since they pay out a higher % than their .50/.25/.05/.01 cousins. And to check the payout percentages with the regulatory authority that covers the casino you want to play at.

Then it will go on to tell you to wager at the $$ level you feel comfortable starting with, say $1 and if you lose 1/2 your stake, drop down to the next smallest denomination machine, and repeat. Set a win limit and cashout when you reach it.

Then they go into the all important machine placement, which I think is no longer done in most casinos. Used to be they'd put the loosest machines in places to draw more customers, like near the doors, or at the beginning of a row, etc. I don't believe this is done any longer, and you're just as likely to find a winner by picking at random.

They also usually talk a little bit about the way a slot machine works. In an even smaller nutshell, every time you pull the handle or press the spin button, a random number generator pics a number which determines what combination of symbols, and thus the payout (if any) will be displayed. THEN it spins the reels and stops them on the appropriate symbols, but that part is all for show as the result has already been determined. Each spin is independent from the last, meaning you can have a jackpot spin right after a jackpot spin and the odds are the same for each spin. The payout % is controlled by a chip or switch setting inside the machine and can be modified by the owner (within certain ranges and depending upon the regulations in that location), so they can tighten or loosen any slot virtually any time.

I think the way to find the loosest slots is to ask one of the change people or better yet, the floor people who come and pay you when you do hit. Just ask them which machines are hitting and tell them you'll take care of them if you win (and then follow thru if you do).

They probably also tell to get a players club card and always put it in the slot machine before you start playing. It doesn't monitor your wins/losses, just cranks up the points based on playthru. This will increase the overall payout percentage by giving you a slight rebate for each spin.

That pretty well sums it up. Pretty secret stuff huh? (Send your $47 to me care of Casinomeister!)

p.s. I bought one of those e-books for ~$10 which is where I got this info from. Some of it is useful advice, and using the method of picking a machine right after I read this, I did get a pretty good hit on a 2 coin $1 machine, so it payed for itself.

 

[slotchik]

plus if he were getting rich playing slots, he'd give this book away and not charge for it ...OR waste his time doing this....
Hell, if he can make whatever he wants on slots, he'd be at casinos all day....
not online.

 

[jpm]

plus if he were getting rich playing slots, he'd give this book away and not charge for it ...OR waste his time doing this....
Hell, if he can make whatever he wants on slots, he'd be at casinos all day....
not online.

EXACTLY! Its like these stock 'geniuses' who claim they can make you millions of dollars by following their instruction. At only $200, this seems like a bargain, but if they are that good, why are they wasting their time on this garbage? They should be retired and living on their own caribbean island they bought for cash. I actually asked this of one such stock wiz who called trying to solicit me for his service. He didn't really have a good answer for me, and kept calling back trying to sign me up. Guess he was just a really nice guy who wanted to help me make money.

 

[gfkostas]

Guess he was just a really nice guy who wanted to help me make money. [/QUOTE]



LMAO Give the guy a chance Jpm.He might really wanna help you financially .

 

[roulettelvr]

email messages

I signed up for the email news letter. Received the first one today, and it had the exact information the casinomeister said it would - how slots work, and playing single line, two coin slots. Apparently there is some sort of diagonal system as well which is alluded to in his testimony. I will let you know if he has other things to say. http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=40020#

 

[Coastie]

Don't Do It!

I did order this ebook. I figured it wasn't much money and there was a 90 day guarantee, so I did it. I downloaded the ebook and studied it

In my opinion, the ebook is worthless, scattered with just enough "common knowledge" info to make it seem helpful to people.

I sent an email requesting a refund, well within the 90 day period, explaining that the information simply was not useful or helpful to me in any way.

I got no reply.

I sent another, still within the 90 day period.

No reply.

I sent a third email. By this time, the 90 day period had passed. This is the email that got a response.

Giancarlo sent me a link that he said would initiate a quick and painless refund. I followed the link, filled out the request form, and a few days later got an email from clickbank saying that they couldn't issue a refund because more than 90 days had passed since the purchase date. They suggested that I contact Giancarlo again and ask for an alternate method of refund.

I emailed Giancarlo again, telling him what they said, and asking for a refund again.

He responded with a short email that stated, "I'm sorry. The money back guarantee is good for 90 days ONLY."

I emailed him again, telling him that I did request a refund before the 90 day period (twice, in fact) but that he didn't respond to my emails until after the 90 days had passed. I once again requested a refund.

He again replied, telling me the same thing as the previous email, but adding "All transactions are strictly automated and if you've exceeded the limit there is nothing I can do."

I've just sent my final email offering him a final chance to issue a refund and informing him that if he still refuses, I will file a complaint with the BBB as well as fraud complaints. I will make it a mission to make his business practices known as widely as possible.

Granted, it's not a lot of money, but I'm doing this one simply on principle. If I had actually been late, that would have been one thing. But it is my opinion that this man intentionally waited to respond to me until after the 90 days.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.


Rob.

 

[Simmo!]

I did order this ebook. I figured it wasn't much money and there was a 90 day guarantee, so I did it. I downloaded the ebook and studied it

In my opinion, the ebook is worthless, scattered with just enough "common knowledge" info to make it seem helpful to people.

I sent an email requesting a refund, well within the 90 day period, explaining that the information simply was not useful or helpful to me in any way.

I got no reply.

I sent another, still within the 90 day period.

No reply.

I sent a third email. By this time, the 90 day period had passed. This is the email that got a response.

Giancarlo sent me a link that he said would initiate a quick and painless refund. I followed the link, filled out the request form, and a few days later got an email from clickbank saying that they couldn't issue a refund because more than 90 days had passed since the purchase date. They suggested that I contact Giancarlo again and ask for an alternate method of refund.

I emailed Giancarlo again, telling him what they said, and asking for a refund again.

He responded with a short email that stated, "I'm sorry. The money back guarantee is good for 90 days ONLY."

I emailed him again, telling him that I did request a refund before the 90 day period (twice, in fact) but that he didn't respond to my emails until after the 90 days had passed. I once again requested a refund.

He again replied, telling me the same thing as the previous email, but adding "All transactions are strictly automated and if you've exceeded the limit there is nothing I can do."

And therein lies the scam i guess. Bet that happens to everyone.

I've just sent my final email offering him a final chance to issue a refund and informing him that if he still refuses, I will file a complaint with the BBB as well as fraud complaints. I will make it a mission to make his business practices known as widely as possible.

Granted, it's not a lot of money, but I'm doing this one simply on principle. If I had actually been late, that would have been one thing. But it is my opinion that this man intentionally waited to respond to me until after the 90 days.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.


Rob.

 

[Casinomeister]

Scammer Alert!

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These are all run by the same guy. Wisdom casino (what a stupid name) is a RTG whitelabel casino sposored by earnunited.com

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You could contact these guys and tell them they have a rogue affiliate on their hands.

 

[Casinomeister]

I'm moving this over to the Online Casino section to attract a larger audience.

 

[jetset]

This scamster is in need of some (negative) exposure to warn others who may want to become slot / blackjack / witches / guitar players etc etc. through his many *expert* publications.

 

[Simmo!]

Worth noting also is that the guy runs a big PPC campaign on google for Insider Slot Secrets. Seen it advertised many times.

 

[GrandMaster]

Worth noting also is that the guy runs a big PPC campaign on google for Insider Slot Secrets. Seen it advertised many times.

Does this mean it is costing him money every time I click on one his ads?

 

[Coastie]

Thanks for that

Thank you for letting me know about those, CM, and for moving this thread to give it more exposure.

I'll definitely contact them, if only to let them know what kind of businessman they're associating their names with.

 

[sw2003]

I did order this ebook. I figured it wasn't much money and there was a 90 day guarantee, so I did it. I downloaded the ebook and studied it

I am sorry that you believed in the 90 day guarantee from a fraudster!

That is just like a rogue casino saying they are one of the casinos with the fastest payout.

Yeah right!

A guarantee from a crook is no guarantee at all!