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Insiderslotsecrets Scam Alert (was "Is this worthwhile?")

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by paulpop, Jun 3, 2004.

    Jun 3, 2004
  1. paulpop

    paulpop Dormant account

    Location:
    New York City
    Hi Bryan and fellow gamers,

    THinking more along the lines of playing slots at a land-based has anyone ever heard or bought "Insider Slot Secrets"? Yes another scam perhaps but just wanted to get some feedback. It costs $47 and of course comes with the 90-day "money back" guarantee. The seller is Giancarlo Capuccio.

    Please let me know what you think?


    Regards,
    Paul
     
  2. Jun 3, 2004
  3. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Hi Paul,

    Is this a book? CD? What? Do they have a website to check out? If so, please let us know. Thanks!
     
  4. Jun 4, 2004
  5. paulpop

    paulpop Dormant account

    Location:
    New York City
    Here ya go...

    You must register/login in order to see the link.



    Bryan or anyone else, your thoughts are appreciated!


    Thanks!


    Paul
     
  6. Jun 7, 2004
  7. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
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    I would take this info he's selling with a grain of salt, since it's the casinos that set the payouts for their slot machines. He may have some good insider advice for how a casino stategically places machines that have a higher payout ratio than others (highly trafficed areas, close to payphones, etc.). But then I don't know since I have never read any of his material.

    It may be easier or profitable to learn how to count cards at BJ.

    But then, it's only $47, and he does back it up with this:

    If you think it's bogus, send it back.
     
  8. Jun 7, 2004
  9. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK
    Too good to be true for me
     
  10. Jun 9, 2004
  11. paulpop

    paulpop Dormant account

    Location:
    New York City
    Thanks to both of you for your input! :)

    Paul
     
  12. Jun 9, 2004
  13. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK
    That guy states:You'll see measurable in your game and will guarrantee make of 500$ per day playing the slots machines in any casino worldwide.

    If that is true then i can go for 'shopping' in London and beat the hell ouf of the casinos.Isn't it to good to be true? :lolup:
    Moreover I couldn't find any email contact address plus he advertises some bogus casinos.
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2004
  14. Jun 17, 2004
  15. Falconfira

    Falconfira Dormant account

    Location:
    On earth
    this guys info...

    REGISTRANT INFO

    Registrant
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    This email is not visible to you.
    Burggasse 112/36
    Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
    +1.6769112732

    Administrative
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    This email is not visible to you.
    Burggasse 112/36
    Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
    +1.6769112732

    Billing
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    This email is not visible to you.
    Burggasse 112/36
    Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
    +1.6769112732

    Technical
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    Giancarlo Capuccio
    This email is not visible to you.
    Burggasse 112/36
    Vienna, Vienna 1070 AT
    +1.6769112732

    Record created on September 06, 2003
    Record last updated on June 16, 2004
    Record expires on September 06, 2005

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    Comment:
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    Updated: 2004-02-06

    TechHandle: RW172-ARIN
    TechName: Williams, Randy
    TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400
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    OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE477-ARIN
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    OrgTechHandle: RW172-ARIN
    OrgTechName: Williams, Randy
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    ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-06-05 19:15
     
  16. Aug 28, 2004
  17. BettyBoop

    BettyBoop Dormant account

    Location:
    Colorad
    Still thinking about it

    I see some time has elapsed since last post about Giancarlo Capuccio's
    slot secrets. An on line downloadable e book ONLY.

    The first time I visited his link and clicked to leave a special offer of $37.00 popped up, original was $47.00. Today the special offer does not come up, so must know it was 'me' again.

    He says on his link that a 90 day guarantee, if not happy, then he will send money back and no return of the ebook is necessary, and keep the bonus info. Well duh, how do you return an ebook anyhow??

    Questions
    #1. How does one get a refund on a credit card charge by Ciancarlo C.?
    #2. Has anyone gone for this offer YET? - downloaded tried and used 90 days and gotten a refund.?

    Also on his link he says, he will only have the offer on line for a limited time.
    Questions
    #3. Is this so he can run with the cash and link will be GONE.
    #4. WHO would go after him for a mere $47.00 or $37.00, attorney fees yah dah yah dah?

    :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :what:

    Am I just suspicious or just plain stupid???
     
  18. Aug 28, 2004
  19. swampwitch

    swampwitch ProfessionalUnderachiever CAG MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Independent craftsperson specializing in chenille
    Location:
    Iowa, dammit.
    Boy, Giancarlo gets around.....

    Hmm, let's see.....we already know he can beat the slots....You must register/login in order to see the link.

    He's also a "a renowned tennis all star and European sports celebrity"....so of course he can tell you how to get rich with this affiliate program....You must register/login in order to see the link.

    And, yes, he knows all about luck and witchcraft...and will sell you those secrets, too....You must register/login in order to see the link.


    What? No free Ipods?
     
  20. Aug 29, 2004
  21. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    Good research, swampwitch. There is actually a tennis player called Giancarlo Capuccio, but there is no record of him winning or even being placed in a major tournament, so the claims of him being a celebrity or top 20 player appear to be exaggerated. If he were really a top tennis player, would he need to sell this sort of junk?
     
  22. Aug 30, 2004
  23. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    I'll give you the info in a nutshell that you'll find in virtually all of these 'slots secrets' books.

    First they tell you to look for a slot that has only a 2 coin requirement for max bet, and a wild or multiplier symbol. Once you've found this (and they tend to be less prevalent than 3 coin or higher machines), play the $1 or $5 machines since they pay out a higher % than their .50/.25/.05/.01 cousins. And to check the payout percentages with the regulatory authority that covers the casino you want to play at.

    Then it will go on to tell you to wager at the $$ level you feel comfortable starting with, say $1 and if you lose 1/2 your stake, drop down to the next smallest denomination machine, and repeat. Set a win limit and cashout when you reach it.

    Then they go into the all important machine placement, which I think is no longer done in most casinos. Used to be they'd put the loosest machines in places to draw more customers, like near the doors, or at the beginning of a row, etc. I don't believe this is done any longer, and you're just as likely to find a winner by picking at random.

    They also usually talk a little bit about the way a slot machine works. In an even smaller nutshell, every time you pull the handle or press the spin button, a random number generator pics a number which determines what combination of symbols, and thus the payout (if any) will be displayed. THEN it spins the reels and stops them on the appropriate symbols, but that part is all for show as the result has already been determined. Each spin is independent from the last, meaning you can have a jackpot spin right after a jackpot spin and the odds are the same for each spin. The payout % is controlled by a chip or switch setting inside the machine and can be modified by the owner (within certain ranges and depending upon the regulations in that location), so they can tighten or loosen any slot virtually any time.

    I think the way to find the loosest slots is to ask one of the change people or better yet, the floor people who come and pay you when you do hit. Just ask them which machines are hitting and tell them you'll take care of them if you win (and then follow thru if you do).

    They probably also tell to get a players club card and always put it in the slot machine before you start playing. It doesn't monitor your wins/losses, just cranks up the points based on playthru. This will increase the overall payout percentage by giving you a slight rebate for each spin.

    That pretty well sums it up. Pretty secret stuff huh? (Send your $47 to me care of Casinomeister!)

    p.s. I bought one of those e-books for ~$10 which is where I got this info from. Some of it is useful advice, and using the method of picking a machine right after I read this, I did get a pretty good hit on a 2 coin $1 machine, so it payed for itself.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2004
  24. Aug 30, 2004
  25. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    USA
    plus if he were getting rich playing slots, he'd give this book away and not charge for it ...OR waste his time doing this....
    Hell, if he can make whatever he wants on slots, he'd be at casinos all day....
    not online.
     
  26. Aug 31, 2004
  27. jpm

    jpm Dormant account

    EXACTLY! Its like these stock 'geniuses' who claim they can make you millions of dollars by following their instruction. At only $200, this seems like a bargain, but if they are that good, why are they wasting their time on this garbage? They should be retired and living on their own caribbean island they bought for cash. I actually asked this of one such stock wiz who called trying to solicit me for his service. He didn't really have a good answer for me, and kept calling back trying to sign me up. Guess he was just a really nice guy who wanted to help me make money. :lolup:
     
  28. Sep 1, 2004
  29. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK
    Guess he was just a really nice guy who wanted to help me make money. :lolup:[/QUOTE]



    LMAO :lolup: :lolup: Give the guy a chance Jpm.He might really wanna help you financially :p :p.
     
  30. Nov 9, 2004
  31. roulettelvr

    roulettelvr Dormant account

    Location:
    Sacramento, CA
    email messages

    I signed up for the email news letter. Received the first one today, and it had the exact information the casinomeister said it would - how slots work, and playing single line, two coin slots. Apparently there is some sort of diagonal system as well which is alluded to in his testimony. I will let you know if he has other things to say. http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=40020#
     
  32. Nov 11, 2004
  33. Coastie

    Coastie Dormant account

    Location:
    Mississippi
    Don't Do It!

    I did order this ebook. I figured it wasn't much money and there was a 90 day guarantee, so I did it. I downloaded the ebook and studied it

    In my opinion, the ebook is worthless, scattered with just enough "common knowledge" info to make it seem helpful to people.

    I sent an email requesting a refund, well within the 90 day period, explaining that the information simply was not useful or helpful to me in any way.

    I got no reply.

    I sent another, still within the 90 day period.

    No reply.

    I sent a third email. By this time, the 90 day period had passed. This is the email that got a response.

    Giancarlo sent me a link that he said would initiate a quick and painless refund. I followed the link, filled out the request form, and a few days later got an email from clickbank saying that they couldn't issue a refund because more than 90 days had passed since the purchase date. They suggested that I contact Giancarlo again and ask for an alternate method of refund.

    I emailed Giancarlo again, telling him what they said, and asking for a refund again.

    He responded with a short email that stated, "I'm sorry. The money back guarantee is good for 90 days ONLY."

    I emailed him again, telling him that I did request a refund before the 90 day period (twice, in fact) but that he didn't respond to my emails until after the 90 days had passed. I once again requested a refund.

    He again replied, telling me the same thing as the previous email, but adding "All transactions are strictly automated and if you've exceeded the limit there is nothing I can do."

    I've just sent my final email offering him a final chance to issue a refund and informing him that if he still refuses, I will file a complaint with the BBB as well as fraud complaints. I will make it a mission to make his business practices known as widely as possible.

    Granted, it's not a lot of money, but I'm doing this one simply on principle. If I had actually been late, that would have been one thing. But it is my opinion that this man intentionally waited to respond to me until after the 90 days.

    If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.


    Rob.
     
  34. Nov 18, 2004
  35. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    And therein lies the scam i guess. Bet that happens to everyone.


    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
     
  36. Nov 18, 2004
  37. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Scammer Alert!

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    These are all run by the same guy. Wisdom casino (what a stupid name) is a RTG whitelabel casino sposored by earnunited.com

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    Domain servers in listed order:

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    You could contact these guys and tell them they have a rogue affiliate on their hands.
     
  38. Nov 18, 2004
  39. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I'm moving this over to the Online Casino section to attract a larger audience.
     

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