I'm done with 32Red

[silcnlayc]

I was blasted as I remember many, many months ago about saying this very same thing about 32red and how everyone came to defend them when I said I quit 32red for the very same reason and I was told in not very nice terms that it was a fluke/bad run etc etc...and this was MONTHS ago...glad to see others waking up finally for I kept quiet on 32red ever since.

I have defended them in all threads. I miss my fav CS people and Pat was great. It was a hard break up for me.

I believe that just because you are a GOOD casino with GOOD customer support and FRIENDLY staff and QUICK bonus deposits, it does not make for GOOD casino to play at, when the winnings are NIL to very few wins to far in between.

What GOOD is all of the above when one has no NEED to use them, was what I was saying way back then. I now enjoy 32red very much in PLAY MODE only and every once in a while make a small token deposit to just check and see if thier casino is still tight. And they still are.....IMO No sense in tossing a few thousand at a casino just to see a win of a hundred or so....so play mode it still is.

And if people would just realize and accept that they are going to lose 90% of their deposits (at least), we'd all be happier.

A win here and there would be nice, don't you think? Why else would you play in REAL mode if not to have a little fun winning every now and then? This remark does not make sense (and its the same thing you said when I started the other thread on 32red) for if you don't expect a win now and then, just play in PLAY mode, and it would be cheaper, don't you think, or I can give you my account number and you can make a deposit anytime you feel the urge to GIVE your money away ?.

 

[bpb]

So you are arguing that Microgaming software can be selectively rigged by the individual casino operators? And you are basing this assertion on the fact that you haven't done well there?

Keep in mind the following

1) You are SUPPOSED to lose money when you play at a casino.
2) If the criteria for a "good" casino is that no individual has ever lost there, then the number of "good" casinos is 0
3) You are encouraging people to avoid a casino that runs on a reputable gaming platform, has good customer support, offers reasonable monthly bonuses, and doesn't have any history of screwing over their customers. That is grossly irresponsible.

 

[sookie]

Say what you want...

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that has experienced the change in payouts since March for 32Red. I'm moving on. If you play here and there and this happens to you I would say that it's just the wins and losses of gambling, but when you play at the level I play at I can tell you something is DEFINITELY different with 32RED or MG in general. I can't tell you which is to blame becuase I ONLY played at 32RED since last year. I cannot also show you my play history but I can absolutely guarantee that SOMETHING is different with the payouts since March 2006, either it's MG or 32RED....but I've moved on, finally, after being stupid enough to continue gaming there after not cashing a dime out in 6 months.

The only stupid thing I did was wait this long to realize it's time to move on.

I'm not saying anything about Pat or their customer service, because it's top notch. But that doesn't mean I'm willing to throw my money away with them anymore---best casino or not.

Good luck everyone.

 

[LeJoueur]

I haven't won there in 6 months of taking the 50 bonus.

Sometimes, I think a bonus just isn't worth it.

 

[sookie]

All I have to say is....

Hello AGAIN Playtech! I'm coming back!

 

[NoMouthToScream]

I've never had any problems with 32red. I, like some, haven't been able to withdraw anything from them. I'd still recommend them to a friend because if my friend manages to win something, at least I can tell them that 32red will pay you.

 

[soflat]

So you are arguing that Microgaming software can be selectively rigged by the individual casino operators? And you are basing this assertion on the fact that you haven't done well there?

Keep in mind the following

1) You are SUPPOSED to lose money when you play at a casino.
2) If the criteria for a "good" casino is that no individual has ever lost there, then the number of "good" casinos is 0
3) You are encouraging people to avoid a casino that runs on a reputable gaming platform, has good customer support, offers reasonable monthly bonuses, and doesn't have any history of screwing over their customers. That is grossly irresponsible.

Who made the argument that MG software can be rigged, and that the criteria for a good casino is that no one has ever lost there? I don't see that post.

And how is it irresponsible to encourage people to avoid a casino where you lost at? That is not irresponsible at all, especially when you admit you are "SUPPOSED to lose money when you play at a casino".

 

[venetian]

This all boils down to where you feel lucky. If you play slots there is no skill involved so it is all about the luck. Doesn't everyone here have a favorite B&M casino in Vegas, Atlantic City etc? I do (obviously). I visited a dozen casinos before I found one where I was consistantly lucky, and felt comfortable. You probably did too. Why do you go there? It's the same machines, the same tables, the same games at every casino. It's because you feel lucky there. I would never go back to the Venetian in LV if I always lost there no matter how pretty it is or how good my host was to me. I go there to win just like I play online to win. I doubt that I am the only one on this forum that plays to win. If some of you think I'm an idiot for not expecting to lose then I will dissapoint you by always thinking my glass is half full instead of half empty.

 

[sookie]

But....

If you play at a casino for 7 months and cash out SOMETHING for those 7 months consecutively, then for 6 months consecutively after that you cash out NOTHING because you get no play and no wins...you would think something is up. I'm not talking about playing a little...I'm talking about playing A LOT. This is true whether you are playing in AC at the Trump Taj (my favorite by the way) or online at 32RED.

Winning NOTHING consecutively for 6 months when you won SOMETHING for 7 months prior, and there was a software change right when it all happened, makes me wonder.

Do what you want but I'm stepping away from the MG platform.

 

[venetian]

I will agree. I left MG for a month or two and went over to Intercasino. I won nicely in the beginning and then haven't been able to get anything going since. That is no reflection on that casino or their software. I like their VP much better than MG but their games don't seem to have the sharp graphics and I am spoiled by MG and the way you can up your bet slightly...instead of going from 2.25 all the way up to $9! Simmo! said they were going to change that on their next upgrade so I am looking foward to that. On the other issue of winning for 7 months and losing for 6, that's when (or before that much time had passed) I would open a different account at a different casino. That is what I did. I played most of the time at 32Red but I also had two other sites where I deposited. And yes the drought continued at all of them. So I went to a few Playtechs and did no better. I took a while off and now I'm back on MG and doing well. I hope that you will start doing well also!

 

[frufrugirl]

I can understand the rant against 32red because of the all the hoopla surrounding it. It would rub me raw if I was being a good customer and playing my little heart out and continuously winning nothing! I can only play for a loss for so long before the "entertainment" value evaporates!

I think that's when I realize that I am playing with money and I begin to feel foolish for wasteing it. I WANT to win and I wish the same for others! (thats why we post those fab winning screen shots, we want to share)

This forum is for posting opinions and we are so lucky to have it..so much good info comes from it, rants as well as raves. Each opinon is based on experience and if it is an opinon that we are treated well at a casino, it is helpful. If it is an opinion that you can't win a dime there, thats a different situation, its based on that persons personal experiance and it's ok to vent. If the casino treats you like poo..buh bye.

Ive been at a land casino where the machines are "random" and have been playing a winning machine who's screen gets a little "hickup"and suddenly turns into the machine from hell! Suddenly there are no more ding ding dings around me for another 2 hours! Then hickup! Off they go again! And this is a Casino with a Great Rep! Can I prove they are cheating ? No. Can I move to another machine? You bet!

Quite frankly, I cant win at ANY casino and I get frustrated when I see the winning screen shots..(why not me?) well, why not me because im still a spaz lol at BJ and I get impatient when playing slots and bust. I stay away from places that have long streaks of ick over and over...but I do remember Im Gambling..and I have to take what I get..... because Im still attracted to bright lights, bells and whistles and flashy things! the best to everyone!

 

[Pinababy69]

Do what you want but I'm stepping away from the MG platform.

Now this sentiment I can understand. The only problem I have is with people blaming a specific casino for their losses. Especially when that casino is head and shoulders above so many others in every other aspect. If your luck sucks at 32Red (or any other MG casino), it's not the casino's fault, it's MG. They are the ones who control the payout percentages, not each individual casino.

As for payouts, like I've said before, 32Red is no different than the rest. It's all a matter of timing and luck, nothing more. I can't count the number of times that I've deposited $25 at 32Red and turned it into $150 or $200 within half an hour. Do I cash it out though? No, because to me that amount is just more play time. I play because I enjoy it, not as a way to make money...bonuses or no bonuses. If I do manage to make it to 4 or 5 hundred, then yes I would cashout. But that doesn't happen often.

I really get the feeling that people have forgotten that gambling is supposed to be a form of entertainment, and nothing more. Some people go to movies, some to bars, some to live theatre...whatever. Some people gamble. And I really think that if everytime you deposited, you would just get in the mindframe that the money is gone, you'd be more satisfied. Of course I like to win, who doesn't? But I don't get mad or upset if I don't, because I never EXPECT to. And I never play with more than I can afford to lose. If gambling is no longer enjoyable to you, then it's time to move on to a different activity. And if losing upsets you, time to find a new hobby. And most of all, anyone who really thinks online gambling is rigged or crooked, STOP GAMBLING NOW. Why would you continue to invest money in something that provides no entertainment value, pisses you off and that you think is rigged? I really think that some people just enjoy complaining, and will look for anything to complain about. It gets pretty tiresome. Just my oh.....three or four cents worth.

 

[chuchu59]

Unless we have evidence to the contrary, the outcome of any bet/spin/hand is determined by MG not 32RED or any casino, for that matter. What is wrong with 32RED is that players know they will get the best CS and will always be paid promptly even if they win big. As with B&M casinos, what they want are regular players who lose PAINLESSLY. Why does a player return to the same casino month after month when they lose 80%-90% of the time. Shouldnt a sense of knowing that you are having a bad streak/luck prevail and its time for you to go elsewhere? The fact is you feel comfortable there in the safe knowledge that you will be looked after and that your complaints, no matter how trivial, will be attended to.

I have only played once at 32RED and nearly lost my whole deposit but was lucky on my last bet and broke even. I didnt feel lucky there at all so I havent been there again since. I am just guessing but when there are no worries that you wont receive your winnings, you tend to play more freely and place larger bets as well as playing for longer periods of time. This in turn will favour the casinos and you are more likely to lose given the HA.
If you arent taking a bonus ie no WRs to meet and you arent feeling that lucky after 2-3 months of no cashouts, just press the withdrawal button if you are only slightly ahead or if you are down yet again you can still withdraw
what's left eg 50% of your deposit. This will give you a 'feel good' factor when you realise that at least you got something after months of nothing for a few months. Months of losing and trying to chase losses drives you into despair and you are likely to lose your shirt, whatever game you play or whichever casino you visit.