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Ignition Casino - Questionable Business Practice

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by luck17, Mar 9, 2018.

    Mar 9, 2018
  1. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    SORRY I POSTED THIS IN THE ONLINE CASINO THREAD BUT REALIZED IT WAS BETTER ON HERE:

    I am a regular slots player at Ignition Casino, and since 2018 started the slots have been noticeably tighter as I have lost over 70% of my deposited money.

    So, I inquired in chat about why the slot games RTP are not listed, and was told that Ignition slot games all have the same RTP of 97%.

    I asked is that number the average of all slots RTP, or does each game have the same 97% RTP?
    The rep said each slot game has the same 97% RTP.

    Nothing is listed on Ignition Casino regarding RTP at all, and they feature multiple solts from different software.

    Is this odd??
     
  2. Mar 10, 2018
  3. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Yes it's odd - because that is not true.

    Most RTG and Rival slots have RTPs of 94%-95% and they are definitely NOT all the same - so I think they are telling you the AVERAGE over all games, including Table Games which have much higher RTP than slots.

    KK
     
  4. Mar 11, 2018
  5. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    Thank you for responding but Ignition Casino confirmed that it is not an average...97% is set for each individual slot game.
     
  6. Mar 11, 2018
  7. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    Please look at the attached screenshots from my live chat tonight with Ignition Casino regarding who licenses/regulates them. (see image 1)

    And also, I inquired why Ignition's RTP for slot games are not listed, and if they are regulated or certified by third party. (see image 2)

    Is this something to be concerned over, or not??

    Image #1:
    Ignition Casino - Questionable Business Practice: IMG_0272.jpg,Mar 11, 2018


    Image #2:
    Ignition Casino - Questionable Business Practice: IMG_0273.jpg,Mar 11, 2018
     
  8. Mar 11, 2018
  9. DreamRJ

    DreamRJ Out of this world! MM webmeister

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    And why make a new thread. You already have a thread you created. There is no need to post a new thread!
     
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  10. Mar 11, 2018
  11. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    Ignition Casino - Questionable Business Practice: IMG_0273.jpg,Mar 11, 2018
     
  12. Mar 11, 2018
  13. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    Sorry, I did not know where to post this...but I only uploaded the image on another thread as a response to q general question about casinos not showing RTP.
     
  14. Mar 12, 2018
  15. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Threads merged.
     
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  16. Mar 12, 2018
  17. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    Everything they've said in image 2 is a lie - i would never play at that casino again if i were you...
     
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  18. Mar 14, 2018
  19. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    What do you mean a lie?

    That Ignition does not need to be certified?? Or just the whole response the Ignition rep gave me?
     
  20. Mar 14, 2018
  21. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    If the RNG is not certified, and the game is not certified, than how can anyone be sure it's fair?
    Games have to go through very rigorous testing processes to be put in to any reasonable jurisdiction... so this is borderline fraudulent, and dodgy as hell regardless
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2018
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  22. Mar 14, 2018
  23. NeverLucky

    NeverLucky is actually lucky sometimes

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    I was very sceptical of this Casino to begin with when @luck17 first asked about them, the fact that they do not even display where they are regulated on their website seemed really sketchy to me.
     
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  24. Mar 15, 2018
  25. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    Well it is odd to me about Ignition Casino is that they claim the RTP for the casino games are "being determined by out system and need not to be certified."

    So why does Ignition Casino NOT publish the RTP for each individual slot game??

    I play here regularly and the last 3-months something feels off about the slots. The RTP was DEFINITELY lowered, as I played form 4-months in 2017 (October - December) and since calendar turned to 2018, the slots wins are not as generous at all. I have played online slots for years, and this is very evident. The software providers can give a casino the RTP for a game if wanted.
     
  26. Mar 18, 2018
  27. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    There slots play so tight it certainly feels dodgy....
     
  28. Mar 18, 2018
  29. kahntrutahn

    kahntrutahn Full Member webby webmeister

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    This is a sister site on the Bodog Network. Ignition Casino was created when Bovada divested itself of its poker room. Ignition Casino was born and absorbed that poker room. Bovada later added it back, but I digress...

    The point I am working towards is that Bovada and Bodog, prior to Ignition Casino's emergence, were licensed and regulated in Kahnawake. That regulator, Kahnawake, puts out yearly reports detailing complaints, how many were investigated, dismissed, settled, etc. I do not recall ever seeing bad things about any of the brands. Also under this umbrella are Slots.lv, Slots.com, Cafe Casino, BumBet, and a few more IIRC. I think they all have pretty good reputations, but I haven't dived too deeply on researching the pure casino brands.
     
  30. Mar 18, 2018
  31. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    On chat, Ignition Casino told me on chat that they were licensed by Curarcao eGaming, but Ignition has have no logo or mention of Curarcao eGaming on their website. This is a requirement of Curarcao eGaming, please see what is written on their website below.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    Details about where an online casino or gambling site holds its license can usually be found in the small print at the bottom of the sites homepage. Along the bottom of the homepage you will typically find information about a venues license, the gaming software it uses, the major payment methods offered and any other relevant certification. If you can’t see the Curacao e-Gaming logo there, head to the casinos ‘About Us’ or FAQ section for more information.
    For details about the license holder, click the Curacao eGaming icon. A separate window will open listing the online casino’s official business name, trading name, trading address, license number and the current status of its license (eg. valid, under review, etc). There is also a button here where you can lodge a complaint against the license holder directly through Gaming Curacao.
    One thing to remember is if an online casino is legitimately licensed by a reputable gambling jurisdiction like Curacao, it will always proudly display this information. If you can’t find any details about where a casino site is licensed, it’s likely because the venue either has zero licensing or is licensed by an untrustworthy jurisdiction.
     
  32. Mar 18, 2018
  33. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Aside from the fact youve several threads regarding Ignition casino this could have been posted in, why do you continue to play here?
    I understand as an American youve a limited selection, but it all rather seems more headache than is worth your time.
     
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  34. Mar 18, 2018
  35. luck17

    luck17 Newbie member PABnononaccred

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    I keep playing here because all over the internet it gets rave reviews from players and casino reviewers.

    I posted this thread because I did not realize that a casino is reqired to have a logo on their website from a regulator, like Curacao eGaming. Ignition keeps insisting that they are regulated by Curacao eGaming and that the logo not being on the site is an oversight.

    Sorry for the postings, but I seem to be the only player frustrated as Ignition is barely mentioned on any casinomeister's forums compared to most. And isn't Ignition the most poplar site for USA players?
     
  36. Mar 18, 2018
  37. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Honestly, prior to your posts, I've never even heard of the casino.
    Though no postings could mean 1 of 2 things.
    Noone plays there lol - or theres no complaints.
    I didnt notice, but are you posting in the US section to reach out to US players, as by and large most players wouldnt be playing there.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2018
  38. Mar 18, 2018
  39. NeverLucky

    NeverLucky is actually lucky sometimes

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    Quoting from You must register/login in order to see the link. :
    "Anti-Fraud

    Don’t fall victim to online financial and identity fraud schemes by providers of services claiming to offer our Curaçao eGaming IP licensing and operators of websites claiming to be duly licensed by Curaçao eGaming


    How to validate?

    1. Look for the Curaçao eGaming logo in the footer
      All websites properly licensed by Curaçao eGaming need to have the Curaçao eGaming logo installed in their footer
    2. Review the validation page
      The logo in the footer needs to link to a validation page on the You must register/login in order to see the link. domain
    3. Cross check the company information
      The company operating the website needs to match both in the website terms and conditions and in the validation page

    What Action you can take?

    If you notice a website that claims to operate under Curaçao eGaming license but does not follow the simple validation rules, you can report it You must register/login in order to see the link.. Our compliance officers will investigate and contact you further."


    You can report them here: You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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