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if a really nice affiliate manager turns bad

Discussion in 'Other Complaints' started by dubi18, Aug 31, 2009.

    Aug 31, 2009
  1. dubi18

    dubi18 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    marketing agent and web designer
    Location:
    israel
    if a really nice affiliate manager turns bad,( because i used a nother affiliates banner by mistake because was it was in my email and had thought the casino sent it to me) and they gave me info on the aff whom i by accidently ran a campign on his banner to them. then they said they cant track it because they deal with hbim and him only, then they told me they had problems with a stolen list they allowed to be portaled in. another aff. isint that breaking the confidentiality contract?what should i do they even released his location and name too me, also they told me because i was now affiliated with him they accused me of having a stolen data base and canceled my account.
    i find it weard that for two days after i had lost a campaign of about 15000
    emails sent out to market them< witch i have accumulated through social networking EMAIL SPIDER :) face book and so as well as attending cap conventions, allot of contacts made there. i worked hard to get where i am and feel that after he would not pay me on the traffic he continued to harass me and rub it in via email how he was not going to pay me and did not want to work with me....what your input? it would be greatly in need.
    he insulted me and i never stud a chance i trusted him then he pawned me off to another aff manger who did nothing, i am so distraught and emotionly sad. what would you do? i am new and made an honest mistake why can they at least let me know my conversions...no? or i would even sign a contract with them to gaurentee my traff so i can compensate for the lost i took. also they tried to perswayed my partner to sed them her data base so they could send it, hwen she said no because she waanted to do the campig they said no to her and we obviously trying to steel it from her, i dont even know why they told me the real name of the account holder because when i contacted him he was pissed and now they dont even want to pay him, thanks for your time,rebecca feinberg
     
  2. Aug 31, 2009
  3. dubi18

    dubi18 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    marketing agent and web designer
    Location:
    israel
    :p:eek2: love you guys
     
  4. Aug 31, 2009
  5. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    Nice, real nice...well at least you have the balls to admit that you SPAM folks if you are admitting to using email spiders in order to capture email addresses...:rolleyes:
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    5 people like this.
  6. Aug 31, 2009
  7. vegetagirl2008

    vegetagirl2008 Mafia Wars Level 472

    Occupation:
    No Job Here..
    Location:
    Brooklyn, New York, United States
    I bet my e-mail address is probably one of them. I wonder which affiliate program they are speaking about..That's not a smart thing you just admitted. Hope for your sake the members don't hang you dry in here..
     
  8. Aug 31, 2009
  9. dubi18

    dubi18 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    marketing agent and web designer
    Location:
    israel
    pls direagurd the last email between marry and steve t was the wrong steve oops my ba

    im sorry im new in the industry and if you have any tips i will learn and get better and change my stlye and not use traf unless it comes from my site alone. ill not ever make that mistake agian , i got it grk thanks for letting me know its rong, just trying to make some money and good frineds here:)
     
  10. Aug 31, 2009
  11. dubi18

    dubi18 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    marketing agent and web designer
    Location:
    israel
    i dont spam

    [i use a mail service and belive me it's expencive
     
  12. Aug 31, 2009
  13. dubi18

    dubi18 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    marketing agent and web designer
    Location:
    israel
    ummm sounds good....
    well do you have a face book?
     
  14. Aug 31, 2009
  15. dubi18

    dubi18 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    marketing agent and web designer
    Location:
    israel
    thanks

    don't worr:thumbsup::thumbsup:y i just deleted that list.
    well some times it's better to learn and hear feed back for good posi9tive rienforsment. i sould have checked it out sorry if i hurt anyone it wont happen agian.
     
  16. Sep 1, 2009
  17. Antonia1953

    Antonia1953 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Forensic Accountant (Private)
    Location:
    The Sonora
    Sure you did...
     
    2 people like this.
  18. Sep 1, 2009
  19. rikkerbuddy

    rikkerbuddy Dormant account

    Occupation:
    self
    Location:
    canada
    You make me laugh

    1st issue - you should learn the biz before you burn all your bridges.
    2nd issue - I am sure most people including aff managers would run from you by doing no work - just spamming. Like any biz you should always do your home work - if your just in it for a fast buck you will fail.

    What starts out right ends up right ;)

    I have been working in this industries (part time) and make a nice income every month through hard work and ethics.

    Sorry if I sound preachy but I just hate when people mess up and make it hard for the straight shooters.
     
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  20. Sep 3, 2009
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    This is what can happen to spammers when people get so fed up with it that they complain to the casinos concerned, and worse, try to organise a player boycott through publicising the incessant spam received for particular casinos.
    When this happens, casinos stand to LOSE business through an out of control spamming affiliate, and if the pressure is enough, the affiliate will have their account locked, and payment refused.
    Members here will support what was done in this case, but it is NOT the end, there is the chance to learn the lesson and try to be an honest affiliate with a new program.
    Where STOLEN details are suspected, this becomes far more serious than mere spamming, and this might be why this crackdown seemed so harsh. If players find their details given in confidence to a casino have popped up in some spammers mailing list, they lose confidence in that casino's ability to keep personal data secure - this again can cost the casino revenue.
    USING a stolen list is JUST AS BAD as stealing it, in the real world it comes under "receiving stolen property". Honourable affiliates would flatly refuse to buy a list unless they could be certain it was compiled from people who have given permission for their contact details to be passed to third parties. Verifying this can be near impossible, so it is best to gather your own list. A good way for doing this would be to have an "opt in to my newsletter" section on your website, and then design the website such that it becomes "visible" (and without any "cheating" either, such as "black hat SEO"). This can be done by linking to other related sites, and asking them to link back to yours.
    Honourable affiliates do NOT make a fortune quickly, nor even slowly for the most part. Those that are at the top of their game have built their businesses over many years, and have a reputation to match.
     
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