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I swear Mg casinos are all linked in some fashion

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by AudiManinBoro, Feb 1, 2008.

    Feb 1, 2008
  1. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    I had a nice win about 2 weeks ago and made a nice cashout. Since that time however I cant win diddly squat on ANY mg casino. cant even get the bonus rounds out. It doesnt matter which one i deposit at, they all play really really lousy. Has anyone else noticed that after a nice withdrawal the casinos seem to play crap, kind of like they all know youve had a good win and now their hell bent on getting it back lol?
     
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  2. Feb 1, 2008
  3. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Yes, but it has been confined to the casino I hit big at. I find that by playing several casinos, I will end up finding another where the game I want to play is "hot". Often, this where the same game has previously been "cold".

    Last Monday, I found Munchkins really cold at Challenge, but was hot at Golden Reef. My tactic, after a wait of a few days, is to hit Munchkins hard at Challenge, and go easy at Golden Reef. Hitting a game "hard" is really about increasing the bet size until it starts dropping bonus rounds again. Once one of these offers the retrigger, the game is "hot", and may well play out a number of closely spaced bonus rounds, or a really good one or two in close succession.
    This is how I hit that one at Spin Palace - I was on a "hot" session, and got a couple of bonus rounds on Munchkins, but no retrigger. I increased my bets from 10-50, through 33.25 and upto 67-50. I was particularly fortunate that my FIRST spin at 67-50 dropped three scatters, and produced a bonus round of many retriggers for over 10K. There was one further bonus round, and then I cashed out 15,000 from a 300 cashback on losses chip.

    I now consider Spin Palace "killed", and have diverted attention to Ruby Fortune. Interestingly, casino operators walk straight into this one, and tend to throw bonuses and other promos at losing accounts, so my attempts to even the score are subsidised.
    Another casino I consider "killed" is All Jackpots, at some 40K AHEAD (but this is not so great when considering how exceptional these two cases are, and I am still well down overall, mainly due to bad strategy in my first year or two of playing:mad:)

    I am sure individual games have some kind of "memory" as to their "mood" for individual players, but by dicking around with coin size, and number per line, this can sometimes be overcome, and changing casinos is another way.
    I tend to have accounts at nearly all casinos at a good group, as I can try to find the "hot" account during a time when a promotion is running. I have found that throwing more deposits into a determined "cold" casino just makes it go into deep freeze - I have seen bad runs go for tens of thousands of spins or hands, it seems to "lock" into a certain state at times , the only remedy seems to be to change to another casino, and try the cold one another time.
     
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  4. Feb 1, 2008
  5. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    Better than me then Vinyl, ive tried several since my nice cashout and am lucky if i can even HIT a bonus round lol just lost a 100 in the last hour playing 20 pence spins and not ONE bonus round :eek2: Whats the odds of that lol
     
  6. Feb 1, 2008
  7. cheekymonkey

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    Nice tactic, but surely not recommended.

    I've tried this type of method many a time and have easily busted out.

    Unless you have a monster sized bank roll, this type of play can suck you dry quicker than Divine Brown.
     
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  8. Feb 1, 2008
  9. Chatmaster

    Chatmaster Dormant account

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    When you play MG, you are basically playing at the same casino regardless of it's name. It is just the skin that is different with each operator. Does it mean it is rigged to ensure that you do not win again? Certainly not. I have seen plenty players win jackpots frequently even at the same operator. Play is random at MG casinos there is no trickery involved, so at least do not worry about that.

    I do suggest though that you cool off after a big win and take a break for a couple of days. The win tends to make you play crazy and just deporit the money back into the casino.
     
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  10. Feb 1, 2008
  11. juliack

    juliack Dormant account

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    Royal Flush

    I have played MG casinos for many years and concur with Chatmaster. Sometimes there are strange things that occur. I have played heavily at VP for the past several weeks and have been one away from a royal flush over 50 times. Based on my normal play I should have hit the RF at least a few times. This is by far the worst I have seen over the years. Cheers
     
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  12. Feb 1, 2008
  13. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    In summary:

    Slots: Sometimes they are "hot", sometimes they are "cold"; that's how they work.

    How do Vegas casino's work this clever scam? They don't - they just set slots at 95% ish and watch the money roll in... Just like online casino's do.

    How many times do we need to go over this!?
     
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  14. Feb 1, 2008
  15. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    I agree with your post on all of the points barring one. I dont believe that playing at ANY casino is a random act. Im not saying its fixed or rigged but i do believe the computers which run the programs know when they have paid out well and beyond the % ratio and tighten up. I dont see how it can be any other way after years of playing MG its not possible that you can have for example 1 week of brilliant and fun gaming with bonuses coming out left right and centre consistantly and then have a week of absolutely nothing coming out. Random doesnt work like that if it is truly random. You should still see bonus rounds coming out. A 100 quid deposit spinning on lowest bet should trigger SOME bonuses, yet it did not on any of the 10 games i played on. I just find it strange how some days you can log on and bonus rounds are fast frequent and fluid, yet other times, they are non existant.

    If random truly is random their should be no such thing as a `hot` slot or a `cold` slot but we all know that there are.
     
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  16. Feb 1, 2008
  17. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    Agreed, so if a slot has paid out MORE than its 95 % ratio then it goes cold. that isnt random, thats a computer eliminating the possibility of further wins. ie `cold`
     
  18. Feb 1, 2008
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    It depends on how far it is pushed, and whether it can be used with a promotion. I play on Mondays, so hitting Munchkins hard can give one of the top prizes on the leaderboard, as well as the chance of hitting big. I rarely go as high as 67-50 though. When I did this, I had already won 4K on video poker, and was seeing "hot" behaviour on Munchkins, so I decided to play off around 300 with half a dozen monster spins, and just got lucky on the very first one. Naturally, I withdrew at 15,000 from a 16K peak, knowing full well such an event was unlikey to happen again, and that the 15K could vanish quickly if the games went into a drought. I have seen Munchkins run 600+ spins with no bonus round, even though it often gives several per 100 spins when playing well. This variance is too big to be properly random, because it is not just that the scatters don't fall in threes, it is that they don't fall hardly at all in a cold phase, not even in ones and twos - yet the sector of the reels away from the scatters keeps on turning up again and again.
     
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  20. Feb 1, 2008
  21. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    No, it really isn't! They don't have a 'memory' like UK fruit machines do... The RNG versus the number of symbols/combinations means the OVERALL percentage is around that figure...

    Ultimately - the longer you play a slot, the more chances you're giving the house edge to creep up and bite you.

    EDIT: Incidentally, this aspect of gambling is something that seems like the hardest thing in the world to explain to people... Specifically slot players... It's like explaining the "offside" rule to a woman! Wagerworks have a go at it too with their description in the 'paytable' part of their slots... Go take a look!
     
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  22. Feb 1, 2008
  23. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    you say they dont have a memory but I say that they do :)
    Actually I believe its a more a point of what you Believe! you cannot explain something to someone what you dont understand yourself and no one understands how these online slot machines work. All ive ever seen are hypothesis and speculation because no one can get a straight clear answer out of anyone in the know. A rational mind always keeps the possibility open that what you are told is not necessarily the truth. Even with fictitious date. Scams, frauds, corruption. They all happen on a global basis in every industry to grace the globe from horse raising to tv phone in competitions to football. Anything which is big money is susceptible to it upto and including gambling on line and off. And if people truly believe online gaming is the odd exception then their being very nieve.

    I`ll give an example. Mega Moolah. How many people have landed on the mega jackpot so far? None. How is that possible? Being random of course the odds are so high of someone hitting it by now that it should have happened and happened often. After all its just a wheel spinning. Surely someone somewhere has landed on the magical white slice? but they havent apart from some person who won in peanuts. Why havent they? Because its programmed not too and no one will convince me ever that this isnt the case UNTIL someone in MG decides its time to let the big one go.

    Its easy to say it cant happen because it uses a random number generator. Can you prove that a RNG is set to BE an RNG? Or are you just assuming? :) How can we prove it? Can a RNG be manipulated? id say so its nothing but a computer written by a person who COULD be manipulative. End of the day we have faith in what we are told not what actually is.
     
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  24. Feb 1, 2008
  25. siilix

    siilix Experienced Member

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    Hi!
    Same thing happened to me many times, you are not the only one who has noticed this kind of "pattern"...unfortunately:(
     
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  27. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    its a pattern that cant ever be proved siilix unfortunatly. We are all sheep, we do what were told and we listen to what they want us to listen to. In an ideal world a RNG is great if it IS truly an RNG but on that i have massive doubts. Does it stop me playing? No it doesnt i take my risks, i play the game and i win or lose but not for one minute do i actually believe that all these casinos dont `play the game` in some fashion or another. Its a big money industry and that will always lead to manipulation and corruption.

    BTW im not aiming to start a massive row with anyone on this board because people will ultimately believe what they want to believe. All im giving is my own personal opinions. :)
     
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  28. Feb 1, 2008
  29. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    Mega Moolah is a bad example though mate... Of course your odds aren't the same as the number of 'slices' on the wheel... That's just a visual representation. There's a one in gazillion chance that the RNG will send back the right 'combination' to give you the jackpot! Same story with all the B&M mega jackpot slots...

    For comparison, the Las Vegas legend "Megabucks" odds are 49,836,032 to 1 of hitting the big one... I assume "Mega Moolah" is somewhere similar...
     
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  30. Feb 1, 2008
  31. AudiManinBoro

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    So in other words the wheel is a load of tosh, it means nothing and in essence we are all being maniplulated :) I think its a great example lol If you cant even trust the visual representation of what you see, how can you trust some fictious RNG generator that may or may not be programmed to give various results dependingon its programming?

    I mean if you knew nothing about online casinos, someone new to the game would take a look at the mega mooolah wheel and think ooh my chances of winning the jackpot are 1 in 20 (forgive me i have no idea how many slices are on the wheel ive never counted them lol) because thats what the wheel ACTUALLY represents.
     
  32. Feb 1, 2008
  33. cheekymonkey

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    Yup! You know that though AudiMan - you don't seriously believe that the wheel is as random as it looks do you? :p

    I see it a bit like this.

    All the MINI wedges are made up of MILLIONS of SLICES
    All the MINOR wedges are made up of THOUSANDS of SLICES
    All the MAJOR wedges are made up of HUNDREDS of SLICES
    The MEGA wedge is made up of ONE SLICE

    Therefore, you are bound to take a slice of the MINI and MINOR prizes a hell of a lot more than the higher prizes.
     
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  35. loganberry

    loganberry Dormant account

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    Oh no! Don't you start! :D
     
  36. Feb 2, 2008
  37. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    lol Yup your right i dont believe its as random as that but hey its still undeniably gross misrepresentation. :p I mean if i was thick or something i might NOT have known lol no comments please :)
     
  38. Feb 2, 2008
  39. cheekymonkey

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    Probably mate. But we're all mug punters at the end of the day - lol.

    :lolup:
     

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