I need help, I'm being stiffed for $100,000

[isaacm]

Noble poker is running a Fort Knox jackpot promotion. A few weeks ago, I decided to play since I know I have won sit n' gos before, and I have poker skills. I was fortunate enough to come out on top of 6 straight games. It took me the span of 3 weeks, but I won all 6. I was so excited, and couldn't believe I won. After the 6th game, I sent all the required information to them and was in anticipation
of getting paid. They sent me a ridiculous email back saying that I was in collusion and also accused me of softplay. I earned every win in those sit n' go's and to be accused of something I didn't do is ridiculous. It seems like a cop-out by Noble to use this as an excuse not to pay. I won all 6 games fair and square, and have been getting the run around for 8 days now. I keep calling, and they keep saying to check back in 24-48 hrs. What can I do? I don't know how many people have won this jackpot before me, but I wonder if they were paid. I also had to post up $57 for each tournament and all my account money plus winnings have been frozen in my account for no reason. I'm fed up with calling them, and I need the expertise of casinomeister mods to help me recover my winnings.
Hope someone gets back to me on this.
Thanking you
Yours truly

 

[tantalos]

Provided you've done anything correctly and none of these accusations of NoblePoker stands, this attitude on behalf of Noble Poker is simply outrageous.

By the way, what does "Softplay" mean?

I wish I could be of assistance , but I guess that's CasinoMeister job.

Good luck

 

[chuchu59]

Pitch a bitch to Bryan, the casinomeister. Either him or spearmaster(who normally handles playtech complaints) will deal with this.

 

[spearmaster]

I don't generally handle Playtech complaints. My best suggestion would be to Pitch-a-Bitch when it reopens. Only if I have a good contact at an operation can I generally be of assistance, and Noble Poker is not one of these operations.

 

[buck]

Soft Play

From the site "soft play" is defined as below:

Any player found to be soft playing in order to allow another player to win during the course of a Sit N' Go tournament will have his account frozen.

Hence if the player made any mention of his wins during later games, with his chat, they would probably be DQ, since this could cause others to soft play.

So isaacm, if you were chatting probably the source of such DQ?

More to the story?

6 straight SNG wins is a fantastic feat at the $50 level in my opinion.

Another first time poster with a $100k problem.

Buck

 

[buck]

6 Straight SNG wins

Rather than mess with this I would suggest you enter the WSOP.
I think for someone with your talent a sponsorship would be had.

Buck

 

[paul02085]

$100k!!!!!!!!! That is alot of dough. Hopefully some of the poker affiliates know Noble Poker and can intercede on your behalf. If you are being truthful then this is total robbery and everyone in the industry needs to be made aware of it right away.

Sounds like some of the tricks their casino counterparts try all the time.

Good luck on getting your money (if you are being truthful) and if i were you i would post about this everywhere you can.

 

[liquidsoap]

Now that sucks, you should get paid. Unless they have proof they cant accuse you of softplay. Now if your Ips are somehow linked, or the people you played with all live in the same city, then you wont get paid.
But thats a given....
I doubt many people are affiliated with noble because they are in the group with clubdice, joyland etc.....
I am sure Brian will have to work the magic on this one. And yes, you should join the WSOP.....

 

[Renegade]

I read this thing on

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NoblePoker.com $100,000 Tournament Win Dispute 06/08/2006

IMO, if a player wins fair and square, pay them....If not, please get the heck out of the business!!!!!!

 

[Linus]

Isaac, post your hand histories, please. If you were colluding, the evidence is there.

 

[isaacm]

i have posted this in like 4 sites and there are people trying to figure it out. what i dont get is that, Noble's poker specialists accused me of this bs and all this crap and tried to link me with people i havent heard of and not even sure if i played against them in those tourneys and have no idea who they r either way. when i asked them for the proof and evidence, they havent got back to me yet and its almost a week now. is it me or what im not sure but this sounds like a 21st century that is unheard of. if i was given a math problem to solve by my prof and i solved it and came up with the answer and then the prof asks me for work of how i got the answer will i tell her to give me 10 more days so i can show my work to her???

 

[isaacm]

Isaac, post your hand histories, please. If you were colluding, the evidence is there.

man they froze all my ipoker accounts and i have no access to even to my money in there. i wish i could post my whole hand history ere. its the most retarded thing i have heard of in ages, the accusations they made of me, and they cant give me any freakking evidence for almost a week, its like some rocket science that they cant explain but came to a silly conclusion. what a bunch of idiots. by this time i could have played cash games on those sites and doubled my money atleast.

 

[Renegade]

I just emailed tradal, and asked them what is going on.
I promote Noble Poker through them.
It's sunday right now my time, so hopefully I can at least get an answer and make them aware of this.

 

[Renegade]

isaacm,
I just emailed Tradal and asked them what is going on with Noble Poker.
I promote Noble Poker through them so hopefully I can at least get an answer and make them aware of this, if they are already not.

 

[cipher]

i have posted this in like 4 sites and there are people trying to figure it out. what i dont get is that, Noble's poker specialists accused me of this bs and all this crap and tried to link me with people i havent heard of and not even sure if i played against them in those tourneys and have no idea who they r either way. when i asked them for the proof and evidence, they havent got back to me yet and its almost a week now. is it me or what im not sure but this sounds like a 21st century that is unheard of. if i was given a math problem to solve by my prof and i solved it and came up with the answer and then the prof asks me for work of how i got the answer will i tell her to give me 10 more days so i can show my work to her???

Hi issacm:

I'm not sure if the Casinomeister is still traveling or not. But if I were you' I'd get the ball rolling by: First, fill out a Pitch a Bitch form so that Bryan has all the particulars at his disposal. Secondly, I'd stop posting at all the varied and assorted sites until such time as Bryan has had a chance to get a feel for this case. Third, the amount of money involved here is substantial so it can only serve your best interests to quiet down for a bit and let Bryan work on this. At this point the fewer hands in this soup the better.

Have a good one.

 

[bossplayer]

Uh, one more thing if you havent done it allready. Request the game logs. And collect all of the other peoples screen names. This will be needed for obvious reasons, it is their only defense. Also, if you can still look in the software even though your account is frozen, see where the other people live.

 

[paul02085]

Isaacm, Cipher is right. Do a Pitch a Bitch and let Bryan get involved. He is correct that now is the time to cool it re posting anymore for the time being.
I think you will get paid in the end unless they have concrete proof that is made public.

 

[Linus]

Isaac, refusing to turn over your hand histories is unacceptable. They're your hand histories, you're entitled to them.

Having said that, how is it you didn't get any HH's, before they locked your acct?

A lot of folks are going to find that suspicious. Many poker players record all their games. They're going to have a hard time imagining sitting down to a 100K sng, without managing to have gotten a record of anything.

They're going to suspect you do have records, but don't want to post them, because you know what they will show.

 

[cipher]

Isaac, refusing to turn over your hand histories is unacceptable. They're your hand histories, you're entitled to them.

Having said that, how is it you didn't get any HH's, before they locked your acct?

A lot of folks are going to find that suspicious. Many poker players record all their games. They're going to have a hard time imagining sitting down to a 100K sng, without managing to have gotten a record of anything.

They're going to suspect you do have records, but don't want to post them, because you know what they will show.

Hi Linus:

While I understand that you and probably a lot of the POKER players here would like to see the Hand Histories, you should also understand that this situation deals with a considerable amount of money. Having said that, I think I've shown on a few occassions here on this site that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to large amounts of money being owed by casinos and collecting those funds.

Trust me, this is no time to be posting hand histories or anything else about this transaction. It's just going to muddy up the water or so to speak when and if Bryan feels that he wants to get involved in this issue.

And please Linus do not take this as a personal afront to you as it is not intended as such. Sometimes the best thing to say in matters such as this is absolutely nothing at all.

Have a good one.

 

[Linus]

Cypher -

If it were me, I'd post the hands on 2+2. The players there will be able to tell whether there's collusion.

If there's not, proving it on 2+2 is the best way I know of to get Noble to pay up.

If there is, well, if there's anything poker players hate more than a cheating casino, it's a colluder.

Of course, first he's got to get the hand histories.

 

[Linus]

Isaac, where else have you posted this?

 

[dominique]

Hi Linus:


Trust me, this is no time to be posting hand histories or anything else about this transaction. It's just going to muddy up the water or so to speak when and if Bryan feels that he wants to get involved in this issue.

Take cipher's advice, he knows what he's talking about here!

 

[thelawnet]

$100k!!!!!!!!! That is alot of dough. Hopefully some of the poker affiliates know Noble Poker and can intercede on your behalf. If you are being truthful then this is total robbery and everyone in the industry needs to be made aware of it right away.

Sounds like some of the tricks their casino counterparts try all the time.

To be fair, the chances are he did collude.

The casino says he did, maybe he did, maybe not.

But certainly there's a fairly good chance that he didn't win this fairly.

Let's not jump to conclusions without any evidence.

 

[tennis_balls]

2 threads with exact same title

isaacm, you're really not helping your case at all by starting 2 different threads with the same title.

 

[cipher]

Cypher -

If it were me, I'd post the hands on 2+2. The players there will be able to tell whether there's collusion.

If there's not, proving it on 2+2 is the best way I know of to get Noble to pay up.

If there is, well, if there's anything poker players hate more than a cheating casino, it's a colluder.

Of course, first he's got to get the hand histories.

Hi Linus:

I dispise cheaters as much as the next guy Linus. But the crux of the matter here is a casino (NOBLE) is not wanting to pay this player under the purported quise that this player was cheating.

But the fact here is that this player does not hav't to prove that he wasn't cheating. The casino has raised the specter of the player's purported cheating and in that instance it's the casinos responsibility to prove up the cheating element or pay the player if they cannot prove up the cheating element.

Have a good one.