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Question I know! Another 3Dice Thread. Can You Stand It?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by prindi, Mar 28, 2014.

    Mar 28, 2014
  1. prindi

    prindi Senior Member

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    Someone made a comment in the last 3Dice thread I just finished reading about it being another 3Dice thread hence my title.

    Here is my question....


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    How often are these things updated? How often are they suppose to be? Maybe someone can shed some light on the details of this. I asked Lance and he didn't know.
     
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  2. Mar 28, 2014
  3. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    Wow that cert is nearly 5 years old, They must be some serious numbers involved
     
  4. Mar 28, 2014
  5. rena35

    rena35 Senior Member

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    Would be interesting to know what the response will be.
     
  6. Mar 30, 2014
  7. mistertee

    mistertee Experienced Member

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    Wow ! That is rather an old certification !! How often do casinos have their RNG checked and certified ? Does anyone know? I am really curious now because I play daily at 3 dice and other casinos to and would like to know if software should only have a" one time certification " ? Or, should it be checked yearly etc etc.? This is NOT an accusation !! It is just a question !!! Thanks in advance for any input from 3Dice or any other casinos !! :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Mar 31, 2014
  9. wamto

    wamto Full Member

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    not sure how long ago it was checked

    I am not sure how long ago it was checked but according to the company they are not listed in the list of recent clients. Since it's a new year though that really doesn't tell us much. But 2009
    is a long time ago. I guess we should Enzo an email and ask him lol he might have a more recent one and just never had the time or really the reason to update it. Yeah I know I b and moan about 3dice but still wouldn't go anywhere else. :)
     
  10. Mar 31, 2014
  11. 3Dice

    3Dice I-Gaming Industry Representative

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    Hi Guys,

    Certificates like our RNG certificate remain valid for the lifetime of the code they describe. This particular certificate verifies and confirms the accuracy of the RNG used by 3Dice, which (and this can be verified through code signatures) has been in use in its current version since 2009 (and will remain in use for many years more.).

    Recertification is only required (and useful) if either the RNG code changes - or the second law of thermodynamics turns out to be invalid - both of which are unlikely ;).

    p.s. Angle Gaming - our software provider - should be on itechs client list ..

    Enzo.
     
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  12. Apr 1, 2014
  13. wamto

    wamto Full Member

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    thank you

    I knew you were on top of it!!!!:p
     
  14. Apr 1, 2014
  15. prindi

    prindi Senior Member

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    Enzo, I appreciate the response. I don't really understand everything you said its a bit technical so you may have already addressed this in the explanation but I just didn't understand it. For a customer such as myself, how would I know that you did or did not change the code?
     
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  16. Apr 1, 2014
  17. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    3Dice! As responsive as ever.:thumbsup:
     
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  18. Apr 2, 2014
  19. mistertee

    mistertee Experienced Member

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    What about the RTP certification and software integrity ? Is that included in the RNG certificate? Or are they seperately verified? and certified ?
     
  20. Apr 4, 2014
  21. butterflyboogie

    butterflyboogie Senior Member MM

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    Random

    I have never understood all the certification...or the random of the games. I know at times you will spin forever and never get a bonus...I have always wondered how it worked. BTW...not accusing...just don't understand it. =)
     
  22. Apr 11, 2014
  23. ny86yanks

    ny86yanks Dormant account

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    What company tests rng for 3 dice? I saw itech mentioned?
     
  24. Apr 11, 2014
  25. ny86yanks

    ny86yanks Dormant account

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    Found it.

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  26. Apr 12, 2014
  27. mistertee

    mistertee Experienced Member

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    that is only the RNG certificate ! That is not a certification for the software game fairness etc. !!!
     
  28. Apr 12, 2014
  29. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    The RNG certificate proves that all games are random. I am not an expert so if I am wrong someone can correct me. If the games have proven to be random then does that in of itself, prove that they are fair? In addition, 3Dice publishes the current RTP of their games in real time. In my opinion 3Dice is one of the most transparent and honest casinos out there. Yes, the slots are on the high variance side but 3Dice makes no secret of that.
     
  30. Apr 13, 2014
  31. mistertee

    mistertee Experienced Member

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    There are RTP certifications , fairness audits, and the integrity of the software !! I am not stating that 3Dice isn't fair but, it goes a lot further than just an RNG certificate and posting current RTP of games in real time !!!!
     
  32. Apr 13, 2014
  33. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    You know you can contact Enzo directly and ask him. I am sure he will be able to answer all of your questions. :)
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/3dice.html
     
  34. Apr 13, 2014
  35. mistertee

    mistertee Experienced Member

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    LOL I have been playing at 3Dice for 4 years almost everyday ! No need to ask him !! I already know how to contact him. But, thanks for your suggestion !
     

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