i found people who have also suffered my fate by a kahnawake organisation.

[dreamtheatre]

the translation of the following is precisely as follows:

kaave.com which has a license from Kahnawake Gaming comission has terminated the membership of smn else and appropriated his funds without explaining a reason just like they have done to me. i have met his complaint while i have been searching if there were other sufferers like me?




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[caruso]

The Kahnawake Gaming Commission is just another example of the contempt this industry has for its customers. Kahnawake is now a proven licensing joke with their authorisation of the latest Golden Palace olympic sabotage - though they were already a proven joke back in 2000 when they authorised the same organisation's misappropriation (good word, that, hahaha) of players' cashouts in the first and still biggest online casino scandal. The olympic incident, however, "proved" it to the wider public.

Yet casinos still proudly trumpet their Kahnawake seals as if they mean something, and even eCOGRA are involved in a "player protection" initiative with them. Has eCOGRA pulled the initiative since Kahnawake were shown up for what they really are? No - and eCOGRA IS a reputable organisation, though one I still have many issues with.

Basically, we're all treated like class A idiots by these people. We're supposed to believe absolutely anything. It doesn't matter how spectacularly far from reality what they're saying actually is, we're still reckoned to buy it hook, line and sinker, because we're all idiots.

 

[Casinomeister]

Is it possible to wait and see exactly why this player(s) was shut out? I'll be contacting them either today or Monday.

Please dreamtheatre, one thread is enough to deal with your issue. Thanks!

 

[dreamtheatre]

how right you are

well you are really right my friend.

kahnawake is a very unserious organisation

i have written three mails to them .i have sent them the adresses of the websites where people are complaining about kaave.com(which has a kahnawake license and brags about it) .and i recieved NO reply. My hardly earned 836 dollars is stolen and i can do nothing about it.

 

[jetset]

Is it possible to wait and see exactly why this player(s) was shut out? I'll be contacting them either today or Monday.

Please dreamtheatre, one thread is enough to deal with your issue. Thanks!

A sensible suggestion in my opinion, Casinomeister and in the meantime perhaps dreamtheatre would like to encourage some of these other complainants to post here in person so as to present facts and not mere accusations when Bryan calls Khanawake.

I have to agree on the comments regarding Golden Palace's disgusting performances at the recent Winter Olympics, although this issue is not really relevant to dreamtheatre's complaint here.

However, seeing as it has been mentioned, I find it very disappointing that Khanawake has not made a public announcement condemning this behaviour at a major international sporting event, and what disciplinary measures it has imposed for the flagrant way GP breached its earlier agreement on disrupting Olympic events.

I think Kahnawake owes the industry at large a public announcement on this issue and what it has done about it vis-a-vis disciplining Golden Palace.

 

[dreamtheatre]

another victim

i met another guy. his member name was hayal_et. he had 1750$ in his account and his membership was terminated too .he (like me) got no answers to his mails . in short he was robbed too .

 

[chuchu59]

i met another guy. his member name was hayal_et. he had 1750$ in his account and his membership was terminated too .he (like me) got no answers to his mails . in short he was robbed too .

Dreamtheatre,

Patience is definitely not one of your virtues. Cant you just wait a couple of days before slamming them again and again.

 

[dreamtheatre]

the other victim had the virtue of patience

i met the guy at the other (by the way i really wish a serious firm invests in Turkey. i am sure they would have a huge profit cause nearly 90 percent of members complain about the Turkish sites) Turkish poker site(www.oyunsalonu.com) . i was yelling about how i was robbed and he was promptly interested. he said he was robbed too. it has been 4 months since his funds were detained and he has done nothing . when i said there might be some hope he was really very happy.

now i have to fight for him too since i have given hope to him and he speaks no English.

 

[vtlady]

kahnawake license is a joke

I have had problems with them now for over a month. I submitted complaints to them and they do not act on them. All they care about is the money.

 

[caruso]

I have had problems with them now for over a month. I submitted complaints to them and they do not act on them. All they care about is the money.

You should listen to the Kahnawake entry in Mr. Bailey's latest webcast - it's very good.

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[Achenar]

dont feel bad

i heard alot of bad stuff about this kkave.com.I was reading some posts at casino-crush ands there are many people that got took bye these guys and not depositing wins after WR are met.They just recieve there deposit back.Go check it out if you intrested in more about these guys.Ill spend my 2 cents today on this message..lol

 

[dreamtheatre]

thanks achenar

Achenar can you tell me the name of the website where you met the complaints about kaave.com

i think there are probably at least 100 hundred players whose memberships have been terminated and whose funds havent been returned by this kaave.com .i want to bring them together in some kind of forum so that we can act together and take some efficient action unless casinomeister manages to get some result.

by the way it would be real nice to hear from casinomeister.

 

[Achenar]

dam if i can remember right now

sorry m8 this was a couple days ago.But when i find it again i will post.I beleive it was at www.casino-crush.com.then look at bottom for the casino forum.Then click it your in casino-crush gambling forum.Not positve but you can search there.Its kinda big so take your time..lol

 

[Achenar]

i found it but you beat me to it

LMAO.. i found it but one problem YOU post it...lolThis was at hodgepodge..lol

I knew i seen it but wasnt sure .Then i went and looked there and seen you name..lol sorry i couldnt help you any more on this...I tried..

 

[Achenar]

do you remember where you posted

Remember where you posted in hodge podge well someone else also post about kavve.comor what ever that @$%^ed up name is. anyway here is what he posted:

hi my name is Mumtaz Sevgi. I am from Turkey and I am a real estate realtor.today i met someone at oyunsalonu.com while playing poker.she was telling how she was robbed 800$ by kaave.com.i was propmptly interested.because i had been robbed $1750 by the same site i was a member of the site and my member name was hayal_et.one morning i started playing then i closed the screen and a few hours later when i tried to log in iwas told that mu membership was cancelled because i had cheated during a play.at the moment i had about $1750 in my account.i wrote at least 20 mails because i had absolutely not cheaten but to no avail.my newly acquired friend gave me this address along with others could you help me get my money back

 

[dreamtheatre]

some other complaints

well i do not want to irritate Casinomeister but i feel obliged to share what i found.these are taken from www.sikayetvar.com.
""Kaave.com Parama El Koydu ve yeliğimi İptal Etti kahvegibi06 [17 Şubat 2006, 17:09]
Kaave.comun yesi idim. Kısa bir sre nce 1000 Dolar para ekme talimatı verdim. Kredi kartıma baktığımda paranın kartıma yatırılmadığını bilakis birde kredi kartımdan ortalama 4000 Dolar para ekildiğini grdm.

Bankamla irtibata getim. Şubat ayı ierisinde ekilen hibir paranın tarafımca yapılmadığını beyan ederek kartımı kapattırdım. Yetkili mercilere şikayette bulundum. Şimdi yeliğimi iptal etmişler. ""

precisely this means: ""i was a member of kaave.com, my member name was kahvegibi. i had asked for a withdrawal of 1000 dollars. when i checked my credit card i noticed that not only the thousand dollars hadn't been deposited but about 4000 dollars had benn withdrawn from my credit card.i got in touch with my bank and had my card cancelled. i made official complaints about the embezzlement ant then i noticed that my membership with kaave.com had benn terminated.17th february 2006.""

i sent this a guy a mail and asked for permission to publish this.you can see this complaint at www.sikayetvar.com. the number of the complaint is 84715.

the other complaints about kaave com are numbers 85183,85070,84715,84700,83378,66324 and 65142

thanks!

 

[jetset]

Whoa! If these people are pulling unauthorised withdrawals off player credit cards we have a very serious problem that needs to be publicised to protect others.

I'm afraid I can't understand the site presentation - can you indicate what software provider is powering this outfit? They need to be advised as well.

Kahnawake definitely need to jump on this and very, very quickly.

 

[dreamtheatre]

jetset

well i had a through search of the site but i am afraid there is no information about the name of the software provider.

 

[dreamtheatre]

kahnawake list of permit holders

i could not see the name of this site in the list of permit holders displayed by kahnawake in kahnawake homepage.maybe they are listed under a different name.