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HTML 5 netent games have changed

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by Monnii, Mar 29, 2017.

    Mar 29, 2017
  1. Monnii

    Monnii Non-Gambler

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    I think we should have a thread that covers all netent games that are either changed or released under html 5. If you disagree we can have this thread scrapped. (I know we already have one for doa, but it seems like other slots have changed too.)
    twinspin for example feels off.

    Theyre all playing differently now, especially Dead or Alive, is just horrible now with its near misses, sloppy programing showing scatters where they shouldnt be, lack of wildlines and overall the feel of it.
    But if you guys have contributions to this thread or just disagree with me then let please share. :)
     
  2. Mar 29, 2017
  3. prop82

    prop82 Experienced Member

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    Dont know if its running on html5 now on mobile, but jatb shows me the last months every few spins when the reels start a wild on reel 2,3,4 and 5 in a row. Unfortunetly never stops like this:)
    Did not see this earlier.
    But i like that they have released some of their older slots for mobile now, like wild water and elements, i think also based on html5.would have preferred some others but they might follow
     
  4. Mar 29, 2017
  5. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    Sweden
    I both agree and disagree. Of course they have changed, but only what you see which is the graphics behind the slots.
    It has always only been eyecandy but what's programmed behind the games haven't changed. It would be stupid doing something illegal and risk losing their whole company just for a few dollars more in profit.

    What I do see now is that players in here more and more are blaming the game providers for their losses instead of separate casinos. What a relief for them.
    If you win it's a good change of the graphics but if you lose it's a bad one :eek2:

    For you that the other day told us you needed to stop playing it's really important that you never put the blame for your losses on anything else but your own doing. You lost all by yourself. Please remember that.
     
  6. Mar 29, 2017
  7. conker

    conker CM Advisory Group admin - Meister Minions Manager CAG MM webmeister

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    It must be a massive undertaking to convert all of those games from Flash to HTML5. It might explain why they have not had so many releases lately. I wonder if MG will be doing this with there 400+ slots?

    No matter how good your HTML5 developers are, they will not be able to fully replicate every single graphic/element from the original Flash games. However, I am sure that with the amount of money involved here, that NetEnt and other developers will be doing their upmost to make these games as close to identical to the originals.
     
  8. Mar 29, 2017
  9. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

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    Interesting.
    I am just thinking here but would the games maybe run on a slightly lower RTP% because of this?
    I mean, it will probably cost a company like Netent a good bit of money to move all their games to HTML5 eventually.
    People already report that games on HTML5 seem to play different and/or more tight.

    The costs for such an operation have to come from somewhere and I am sure it won't be from their own wallets on the end.

    So maybe the player is "sponsoring" this operation while playing their new HTML5 suite of games. :p;)
     
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  11. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    I promise to bring you a suitable hat when we finally meet Mark :D

    If they had changed the rtp, don't you think they would have been smarter to raise it instead? That way palyers would have played more and been more happy with the change. That is actually the reason why most casinos are using the highest rtp setting they are offerered. They still get their money.

    I doubt that their customers (the casinos) would be very pleased with them if they did something like that either. My guess though is that you will keep on trusting what players are saying instead of those who actually know something say :)
     
  12. Mar 29, 2017
  13. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Agree in the most Sara but the fact is none of us can say 100% for sure either way on that one.

    We (well some of us) reach for the foil hats after a bad session on these 'new' slots but years of experience / knowledge is making us from time to time "feel" the difference"

    Truth is not one person, ever (from a players perspective) with know whether any coding was changed. This could be done, it may not have been?? - It could have been changed without breaking any "rules" also, so to speak.

    One we will never know the answer to. Fact remains I trust the places/providers I play otherwise I would simply pack this stupid hobby in all together lol :p
     
  14. Mar 29, 2017
  15. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    Exactly! It's a matter of trust and nothing else.

    You said a fun thing there. Almost like as experience would mean knowledge. Yes a few people here have learned something over the years, but gosh I wish there were more :eek::p
     
  16. Mar 29, 2017
  17. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    Am I the only one who doesn't give a damn about the change from Flash to HTML5? Even if there has been some tinkering with the games the RTP will still be the RTP
     
  18. Mar 29, 2017
  19. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    How long you been slotting in general matey?

    It could be an "Old School" thing that's all, that's my gripe with em anyway.

    Other than that 17 wild lines on flash and erm none on HTML5 has nothing to do with it lol :p :p
     
  20. Mar 29, 2017
  21. Monnii

    Monnii Non-Gambler

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    Jungle spirit
    first 700€ @2€ rtp 64,8%
    Then 225€ @2€ God knows what as support doesnt understand what rtp means.
    What is seriously going on with netent. I mean it is impossible for me to win anything beyond 20x bet from any of their slots nowadays.
     
  22. Mar 29, 2017
  23. Pulver

    Pulver Senior Member PABaccred webmeister

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    I think the only thing that has changed is how we perceive the games.

    Regarding Dead or alive, I have hit both a wildline and five scatters on the html 5 version. So for me it has played better than the old one.
     
  24. Mar 29, 2017
  25. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    I've only been slotting with any conviction for a few years Jono. But something I took on board many years ago is that most folk do not like change.( That's why my piggy bank gets full up with coppers so quickly despite the little one raiding it)
    Anyone new to something will simply except it as it is while the seasoned will protest like mad ( See Brexit)

    The bottom line for me is that the RTP will not change and they will not change it back due to a few protestations.
     
  26. Mar 29, 2017
  27. Monnii

    Monnii Non-Gambler

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    Sure some will like change, when the rtp is the same. But why do they have to change doa? Who would have liked it to be changed? For example if there would now be 10% more 2 scatters that would drain alot of the rtp that has previously gone torwards the bonus. So fewer wildlines but people win 2x bet more often. Which they will still gamble away as im sure no one will withdraw after getting a win for that. So why change it? Because it has changed in some way.
     
  28. Mar 29, 2017
  29. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    Should I simply believe your claims or wait for evidence?
     
  30. Mar 29, 2017
  31. ternur

    ternur A damn fine cup of coffee CAG webby mm3

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    This thread reminds me of the same kind of discussion about MGS slots and how they seem to have changed. The arguments were pretty much the same. Must have changed RTP, something's not right here etc. etc.

    Funny thing is, that this discussion took place almost a decade ago. :rolleyes: The reality IMO is the same, RTP is given and if you do not trust the provider to offer fair games, you should not play at all. It's called gambling for a reason.

    Personally I welcome the change to html5 even with the little annoyances. I hope flash will be finally gone soon.
     
  32. Mar 29, 2017
  33. TNY

    TNY Experienced Member MM

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    Ah, speaking of changes. Has someone been playing around with my settings? This place looks different to last time i was here. Im pretty sure there's stuff missing from my room too.
     
  34. Mar 29, 2017
  35. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

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    RTP is probably the same as before but perhaps the variance has changed on some games, like DOA. There are some strange goings on with the base game and its 5OAKs, and the bonus - though more frequent- has gone somewhat medium variance from what I've observed.

    Same as Liddls really. I'd pop in on occasion to grab a few things, and out of nowhere they decide to have a makeover and raise prices willy nilly.

    6- piece salmon packs have shot up about 50p last I checked, and they've definitely tagged 8p on the digestives. Try telling me they're not recouping their money, unbelievable :mad:
     
  36. Mar 29, 2017
  37. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    Im not allowed to play netent anymore but I like to go with the rigged theories. So I agree its been tampered with.
     
  38. Mar 29, 2017
  39. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    That would mean that they had to calculate and change the intire game all over again, instead of just keeping it like it was and just change the graphics.
    Could you please give me one reason for why they would do that? Why if the rtp still is the same and both the casinos and the game provider earn the same on it?
     

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