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How we know a certain Video Slot exact RTP ? (payout percentage)

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Fortuna, Dec 11, 2011.

    Dec 11, 2011
  1. Fortuna

    Fortuna Banned User - multiple casino and forum accounts PABnononaccred

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    From what I know certain video slot games have different RTP (payout%) from casino to casino, even if they have same paytable.

    Now, I know that some casinos state the RTP of each video slot game on its paytable. (game helpfile) And I also know that some casinos which are licensed in Alderney must have a list somwhere on their website stating each RTP per each of their offered video slot games.

    But the tough question is: - How/where can we find the exact RTP for each video slot game at the casinos where this info is not provided at all ?
     
  2. Dec 11, 2011
  3. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Unfortunately you can't. If it's not pubished in the paytable of a game then it's not generally available lthough you can sometimes ask - I have acquired quite a few unpublished RTP's by asking. Some games have a set RTP across all casinos, others can have their reel layouts tweaked to meet an RTP request from a casino.

    It's very rare to find a game under 92% and equally rare to find one above 97.5% but I'm sure both exist. Somewhere :D
     
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  4. Dec 11, 2011
  5. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    The only way is to plot out all the symbols on all the reels and then work it mathematically.
    (I've done a couple and it takes fricking DAYS!)
    However, you can only do this for slots which have a fixed bonus round, such as N free-spins @ X multiplier; you can't calculate for ones which have varying free-spins, a "Picking Feature" or other type of bonus round.

    I have two questions for you now:
    Why do you want to know?
    Which slot(s) in particular are you interested in?

    KK
     
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  6. Dec 11, 2011
  7. Fortuna

    Fortuna Banned User - multiple casino and forum accounts PABnononaccred

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    Thank to you both Simmo & KK !

    1. Honestly, I do not like `cold` games. Therefore I would feel much better knowing that I am playing on the right ones. (I know you may say that even a 98% RTP video slot might be of very high variance and may not pay any winning combination for 2000 or so spins, but if I am certain that the respective video slot really have that 98% RTP and the casino is an accredited one, think I will happily lose my money on it ! (and I also dont want to be `burnt` on a 89% RTP)

    2. There is not a special game where I am interested to know its RTP, because I think I am interested in all video slots just about equal for any casino. :)
     
  8. Dec 12, 2011
  9. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Good answers guys.

    I'm surprised some other people haven't jumped on this thread :D
     
  10. Dec 12, 2011
  11. plasticnote

    plasticnote Senior Member

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    Very useful information. I remember that loaded from MG is 97%. is that correct KK?
    Also, TS1 has a higer than normal RTP, however, sometime in the past, I forgot the year, MG changed the paytable of TS1.

    Does anyone know TS2 and new slots IR from MG, what is base game RTP excluding that crap wild storm/blood vine feature?

    How much we actually contribute to those JP like features.

    Thanks in advance.

    Cheers
     
  12. Dec 12, 2011
  13. Seventh777

    Seventh777 RIP Roy

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    You can get the RTP of many slots if you Google them individually, for overall %`s here`s just one of many sites...

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  14. Dec 12, 2011
  15. plasticnote

    plasticnote Senior Member

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    Find out this: xhttp://www.askgamblers.com/the-5-microgaming-slots-with-the-best-return-n5051
     
  16. Dec 12, 2011
  17. Przecinek

    Przecinek Dormant account

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    Hmm ...in this link Plasticnote provided (askgamblers) Thunderstruck has a RPT of ~96% (same for spring break) whereas on slotbeaters where they've analized reel layout it's around 95% :confused:

    So I guess we'll never know, if even advantage players and gambling experts disagree on these figures.

    I heard jackpot 6000 had a near 97.5% RPT and this claims seem to be reinforced by J6000 bonus ban across many netent platforms.
     
  18. Dec 12, 2011
  19. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    The Askgamblers site says the RTP was obtained from an MG casino - but they didn't say which one. It seems a bit odd to me that they only got figures for a few slots (?). Those figures could be actual RTP rather than theoretical, which could explain the difference.

    The figures on SlotBeaters were calculated by CM member Zoozie who created his own video slot simulator program after myself & some other members painstakingly plotted out the reels. Then some clever-dick found a way to get the reel layouts electronically from MG flash casinos (I've forgotten who it was now!)

    I can't put an accurate RTP figure for Tomb Raider and it's clones on SlotBeaters because it has a picking feature which is an unknown variable.

    KK
     
  20. Dec 14, 2011
  21. quber

    quber Senior Member

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    Highest one I know of is Netent's Bloodsuckers @98%
     

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