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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by wayram, Sep 19, 2005.

    Sep 19, 2005
  1. wayram

    wayram Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    Australia
    Have been playing Bella Vegas Thunderstruck and have had as many as up to three hundred spins without getting the free spins..does anyone else have the same problem with microgaming slots ? Many of the games are the same ..had a terrific run on Cashville when it first came out and cashed in $1000 but now it is hopeless..again 347 spins before I got the bonus..I change the amount I play but that does not make any difference...You would think they would encourage you to play but this way they turn you off.
     
  2. Sep 19, 2005
  3. wayram

    wayram Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    sales
    Location:
    Australia
    Just tried an experiment with Bella Vegas and Thunderstruck...Playing between 9c and 2.25 a spin.....668 spins before the free spins arrived playing
    at that time 0.45c as I was running out of money...won $7.85..668 spins what a joke...they have lost me....
     
  4. Sep 19, 2005
  5. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    What you have to realise is that Thunderstruck is a high-variance slot. This means that because it has some big payouts, then to keep to the published payout percentages (probably around 95%), you have o expect longer periods of little activity.

    Most 5 reel slots that have big payouts are this way. You might want to try What On Earth which keeps you going longer with fewer large payouts and is fun.

    Thunderstruck has 30 reels with the Rams, mathematically speaking, appearing on average 1 in every 123 spins with an average payout of around 20x the total stake. I have run tests of 25,000 spins on this slot and thats about right too.

    This slot - and many like it - require a strategy, then perhaps you can minimise your losses. Most of us (those who play slots) here play these Free Spin s;lots with a strategy of some sort. :thumbsup:

    Cheers

    Simmo!
     
  6. Sep 19, 2005
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    They sure can be streaky!

    On Ladies Nite yesterday I went 350+ spins with no feature, but then it hit about 5-6 times in the next 100!
    Shame they were all totally pathetic payouts - but it was fun! :thumbsup:
     
  8. Sep 19, 2005
  9. johnsteed

    johnsteed Ueber Meister

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    Extended poor luck...

    Huh, 347 as a bad streak would be EXCELLENT for all the bunk I've been getting lately! I keep tabs on the amount of spins, and routinely up my bet after 75-100 spins, and so on after that. Why so many spins before increasing my bets you say? Because lately I've been going through these awful funks of not getting the free spins UNTIL about 500 spins. In fact, 3 times this past week, I've reached 700!!! :eek2: It wouldn't have bothered me so much if I'd be pulling some nice wins along the way, but that's a lot to ask throughout 800 spins. And all too many times when I play now, I'm lucky to reach $2.00 on the 15 free spins (using .09 minimum of course).

    I guess that's the way it goes though. When I first started playing a couple of months ago (Thunderstruck, Tombraider, SpringBreak, and MG slots across the board), regardless of the amount of time between free spins, I always cleaned up during the free spin sessions (like $5 to ridiculous amounts on a mere .09-18 cents). :) Nope, not any more. :(

    I love MG casino's, but to me, the more you play a game, the tighter it gets. PlayTech ran me out the same way last year, I'm hoping that this has just been an extended aberration for me (in terms of poor luck). I don't mind losing, come to expect it, but I'd like to know that I'll always have the opportunity to win big (even IF I don't win). ;)
     
  10. Sep 20, 2005
  11. jamiester

    jamiester Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Overnight dispatcher
    Location:
    Hampshire County, MA
    don't worry about strategy...

    you can never tell when the bonus is going to come up: it should be an equal probability on each spin. Strategies may be fun to keep you occupied but they will not affect your return.

    If Simmo's numbers are right and the rams come up every 123 spins with an average of a 20X return, that means approximately 16% of the return is generated on the free spins. If it is a 95% machine, that means you will only get an average of an 80% when you are not hitting the bonus. That'll grind you down quick if you are not hitting the bonuses!!

    Jamie
     
  12. Sep 21, 2005
  13. princessducky

    princessducky Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Professional BUM
    Location:
    Chicago
    Took me 303 spins at $1.00 on Chain Mail before I got the bonus round. I made like $4x.xx on that. A few spins later I got the bonus again and hit for $78.00. Not bad for a $1.00.
     
  14. Sep 21, 2005
  15. Chill

    Chill Dormant account

    Location:
    Norway
    I was hammered for 2k on elementals monday morning and then in the evening I won 7,5 k on the same slot. Not a single big win, but lots and lots of free spins rocketed my winnings.
     
  16. Sep 21, 2005
  17. jinxface

    jinxface Dormant account

    Location:
    california


    Unbelievable!!!

    It took me exactly 347...
    :p licks to get to the center of my Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop!!!
     
  18. Sep 21, 2005
  19. Bruce Hamilton

    Bruce Hamilton Dormant account

    Occupation:
    What's a job?
    Location:
    USA
    Is that before you bite it, or after? :p
     
  20. Sep 21, 2005
  21. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    Tally-Ho is merciless when it decides the bonus round is not going to hit. My mistake several times thinking that it has to come in eventually. It doesn't! :oops:
     
  22. Sep 21, 2005
  23. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    Totally agree this is the stingiest by a mile in terms of free spins! On very rare occasion, you will get a few after each other. Weirdly, this is the only one where I've hit five scatters for 4500 as well (screenshot somewhere way back there <<<<<). I was astonished, as it's by a million miles the one I play the least!
     
  24. Sep 22, 2005
  25. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    I remember the 5 scatters you got. Paid 1000 X total bet. That's about the best payout for 5 scatters in the whole MG lineup.
     
  26. Sep 22, 2005
  27. morose

    morose Dormant account

    Location:
    China
    ladies nite
    about 73 spins got 3 scatters, 4.5$/spin, 3 scatters got 22.5$ winnings
    but in the 15 free spins, no more winnings :eek2:
     
  28. Sep 22, 2005
  29. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    I've just had a nightmare! Hit 10 spins at 4x multiplier on Jungle Jim, then on the very first spin - it just span and span and span before saying "connection to the casino server dropped". Now it won't let me log in, and just says "failed to connect to casino" Arggghhhh!!! :eek:

    I hope it remembers where I was when I eventually get back in :confused:
     
  30. Sep 22, 2005
  31. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    You never have to worry about that with MG Slotster! Your bonus round will be there and waiting for you as soon as you can make a connection. Also.. it will never "play" the remainder of a bonus round without you if you lose connection during the free spins. If you had 5 spins left when you got knocked off the server.. then 5 spins will still be waiting for you a month down the road if you don't return before then.
     
  32. Sep 22, 2005
  33. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    That's exactly what happened Tim!

    Logged back in to see the "10x Spins at 4x Multiplier" wooden board on my screen, and the "start free spins" button lit up and ready to go :thumbsup:
     
  34. Sep 22, 2005
  35. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling


    And???

    (should I look in Winner Screenshots for the outcome?)
     
  36. Sep 22, 2005
  37. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    Ha! Ahhh.. I was only betting 3 a spin, so it was good for a few hundred quid I think. Nothing spectacular!
     

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