How hitting RtG Random Jackpot?

RTG RJs

I won a $1250 RJ a few weeks ago on $1 bet. There have been others reported for various bet sizes down to 20 cents. I'm pretty sure it is random, but you might get more chances with a larger bet size (the bet size correlation was unclear when explained by the RTG reps).

I am curious if the games all have the same odds to hit the jackpot.

The only strategy I know of (besides Feng Shui of course) is to just do lots and lots of spins. And if that doesn't work, then do a lot more.

I sent Inetbet a question as to whether or not bet size has "any effect on odds of hitting an RJ"... here's the reply:

<<This has been answered on C/M by 'dogboy' who is one of the games programmers and as he states there is no difference with the bet size, your chances are still the same with any denomination, be it 10 cents or 10
dollars.>>
 
I sent Inetbet a question as to whether or not bet size has "any effect on odds of hitting an RJ"... here's the reply:

<<This has been answered on C/M by 'dogboy' who is one of the games programmers and as he states there is no difference with the bet size, your chances are still the same with any denomination, be it 10 cents or 10
dollars.>>


Interesting terminology by Inetbet, assuming you know what C/M is.........
I thought dogboy was an affiliate manager. Had no idea he is a programmer. No wonder he doesn't want to post here lately. :eek2:
 
I sent Inetbet a question as to whether or not bet size has "any effect on odds of hitting an RJ"... here's the reply:

<<This has been answered on C/M by 'dogboy' who is one of the games programmers and as he states there is no difference with the bet size, your chances are still the same with any denomination, be it 10 cents or 10
dollars.>>

That's not what he said here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/anyone-hit-a-rj-at-rushmore.30839/

...RTG random jackpots, however, are not range-based jackpots.

They are truly random, in that there is simply a chance of 1 in (n) of triggering the jackpot, checked at the end of a given paid game (i.e.: It does not check for a trigger at the end of each game during a free game series, but rather at the end of all events that have triggered from the original bet).

The chance is proportionately modified according to the size of the player's bet, so a player betting $10, for instance, will have 10 times the chance of triggering the random jackpot in comparison to a player betting $1, and 1000 times the chance of triggering versus a player betting 1c.
 
random jackpot

I was only betting .20 at Viking slot when I won $9000 + It had a playthrough but I still cleared over $7500 . Haven't won since on that slot.
 
The elusive Random Jackpot

I was only betting .20 at Viking slot when I won $9000 + It had a playthrough but I still cleared over $7500 . Haven't won since on that slot.

The question I have is, why does it seem that the games turn to ZERO return on spins for quite a while before disgorging the jackpot?

I know it may just "seem" like that, but there have been a lot of times that I have given up playing a game because all I was getting were actual zeros and had to quit because I ran out of money, only to find the next morning that someone else had won the jackpot.

Case in point the Ronin game on Inetbet was recently over $13000. While playing the game it went to near total zero returns, no wild Ronins and no feature triggering Koku in the middle, so I had to give up due to lack of funds. Next morning the jackpot was $1000.40.

This really has happened enough times to me that I am getting skeptical.

I know there is no real answer, but I do wonder.

MaryJean
 
RTG RJs

That's not what he said here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/anyone-hit-a-rj-at-rushmore.30839/

...RTG random jackpots, however, are not range-based jackpots.

They are truly random, in that there is simply a chance of 1 in (n) of triggering the jackpot, checked at the end of a given paid game (i.e.: It does not check for a trigger at the end of each game during a free game series, but rather at the end of all events that have triggered from the original bet).

The chance is proportionately modified according to the size of the player's bet, so a player betting $10, for instance, will have 10 times the chance of triggering the random jackpot in comparison to a player betting $1, and 1000 times the chance of triggering versus a player betting 1c.

Ok my wording was poor -- what he said was denomination does NOT matter... meaning it doesn't matter if you bet 10lines x 10cents or 1 line x $1.
The odds are done based on total wager. I've wont 6 Randoms in the last 2 years.... 4 during AUTOPLAY I think.... and most of the time I wasn't playing all the lines. I think the lowest I won on was $1.50 and highest $5. I have gotten my balance to $3000 or $4000 and "chased" a Random on $5 and $10 bets non stop for hours and hours and never got it.

Those who say NOT to play for it are correct -- dont chase it. If it goes off it goes off. I once hit one the day I opened an account. I'm currently in the SEVERAL MILLIONS of spins range now WITHOUT a Random -- per my affiliate as he tracks my spins. I think the last one I hit was $3800 and I played it all on Triple Toucan on $5 bets and not only did I not get the Random, I lost the entire $3800 without a single bonus round until I hit when I had a balance of about $50. Won $200 and soon lost that, too, if memory serves. RTG can have some sick losing streaks. But then so can 3dice. Just gotta be lucky to get the RJ and hope u dont hit on a MAX BET coupon -- which I rarely use anymore. GOOD LUCK!
 
Ok my wording was poor -- what he said was denomination does NOT matter... meaning it doesn't matter if you bet 10lines x 10cents or 1 line x $1.
The odds are done based on total wager. I've wont 6 Randoms in the last 2 years.... 4 during AUTOPLAY I think.... and most of the time I wasn't playing all the lines. I think the lowest I won on was $1.50 and highest $5. I have gotten my balance to $3000 or $4000 and "chased" a Random on $5 and $10 bets non stop for hours and hours and never got it.

Those who say NOT to play for it are correct -- dont chase it. If it goes off it goes off. I once hit one the day I opened an account. I'm currently in the SEVERAL MILLIONS of spins range now WITHOUT a Random -- per my affiliate as he tracks my spins. I think the last one I hit was $3800 and I played it all on Triple Toucan on $5 bets and not only did I not get the Random, I lost the entire $3800 without a single bonus round until I hit when I had a balance of about $50. Won $200 and soon lost that, too, if memory serves. RTG can have some sick losing streaks. But then so can 3dice. Just gotta be lucky to get the RJ and hope u dont hit on a MAX BET coupon -- which I rarely use anymore. GOOD LUCK!

It's possible that the RTG jackpot contribution is either configurable by operators or has been changed at some point. This would explain why some people seem to be under the impression that the odds of hitting the jackpot are around one jackpot per $1,000,000 in wagers, but by my own estimate it's closer to 1 jackpot per $3,000,000 in wagers.

As far as I can tell, RTG jackpots are just about never worth chasing because your odds of hitting them are horrible for a jackpot that's generally in the 4-figure range.
 
It's possible that the RTG jackpot contribution is either configurable by operators or has been changed at some point. This would explain why some people seem to be under the impression that the odds of hitting the jackpot are around one jackpot per $1,000,000 in wagers, but by my own estimate it's closer to 1 jackpot per $3,000,000 in wagers.
The RTG software guy "Dogboy001" once stated that it's about 1 in $300,000 worth of bets = 10 times more likely that you say.
(It's in a post somewhere on the forum from several years back - it anyone wants to go searching!)_

KK
 
The RTG software guy "Dogboy001" once stated that it's about 1 in $300,000 worth of bets = 10 times more likely that you say.
(It's in a post somewhere on the forum from several years back - it anyone wants to go searching!)_

KK

Hi KK -- hope you are well. I'd be super-shocked to learn its 1 in $300,000 wagers. I've spent 10hours without stopping many weekends on the same 1 or 2 games at $2 to $5 bets... occassionally jumping to $10+ on some spins and not hit. In fact, I'm now in the $2millions wagered on the same 3 games (Triple Toucan, Diamond Dozen and Wizards) without hitting in in many months. I would guess probably 300 to 400 deposits since my last Random. While I have hit 5 of them, they pretty much all but 1 came in the same weekend about a year ago.

I think most likely it has to be 1 in $million(s) wagered but the bigger question is: are all games with a Random Jackpot at all RTGs using the same RNG method/odds? Or could 1 game be 1 in $100,000 while another at another casino is 1 in $10,000,000 --- notice some RTG RJs are as high as $50,000 USD while other casinos never seem to get over $10,000.

J
 
The RTG software guy "Dogboy001" once stated that it's about 1 in $300,000 worth of bets = 10 times more likely that you say.
(It's in a post somewhere on the forum from several years back - it anyone wants to go searching!)_

KK

Going off memory, I accidentally made the mistake of multiplying both the figures by 3 in my original post, forgetting that the original was already multiplied by 3.

I intended to say more along the lines that the one jackpot per $300,000 was claimed, but that the current reality is closer to $1 per million.

I couldn't find the specific post you were referring to, but it doesn't look like it was made within the last several years. The closest and most recent that I saw, unless I missed something, was this from 2010:

"The total jackpot RTP is around 1.3% for the single jackpot reel series games..." taken from this post:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...arned-can-be-controlled-in-the-backend.36435/

This would imply a rate of one jackpot per $350,000, give or take, and a jackpot contribution rate of at least 1%. But that quote was from four years ago, and I've found that the jackpot contribution rate is at most .5% (from spins at the CWC group). Maybe something changed, or maybe it was configurable from the start, I don't know, but the 300k number simply isn't accurate.

The rate of hitting the jackpot is
(average expected value - seed value)/(jackpot contribution),

so to get the true chance of hitting it you'd need to find out or estimate those numbers. From what I can tell, this means you're looking at a jackpot somewhere between every $600,000 to $1,200,000 depending on your estimates.

But if people would rather base their gambling on hearsay from a half a decade ago, they're free to make that choice.
 
There is no formula for hitting the random jackpots where a spin of 0.20 or 0.25 could land you one. I got a RJ and a minor Jackpot at these spin amounts respectively. Just be sure you remain in your comfort zone and spin for entertainment without thinking about it. If you have decided on the value of your spins choose a slot with a larger Jackpot since the chances of hitting them are more or less equal. You cant chase them even if you tried.
 
so reading all the latest post seems like its just totally random like 1 in 300,000 or more
i feel bad if someone has spent over 1 million chasing a bonus
 
so reading all the latest post seems like its just totally random like 1 in 300,000 or more
i feel bad if someone has spent over 1 million chasing a bonus

It's $1M in wagers I am guessing, certainly not $1Million in deposits that the other poster is referring to.

My personal strategy is based on the fact that I like a lot of different games. So the way I decide which game to play on a given day is partially driven by size of RJ and what games recently have paid well for me. I don't "chase" the jackpot -- but jackpot size helps me decide which game to play. And if it happens, it happens. I have probably hit 10-12 RJ since I began playing online about 5 years ago. When that screen lights up and flashes the RJ it is so sweet!!

FWIW,

Diane
 
It's $1M in wagers I am guessing, certainly not $1Million in deposits that the other poster is referring to.

My personal strategy is based on the fact that I like a lot of different games. So the way I decide which game to play on a given day is partially driven by size of RJ and what games recently have paid well for me. I don't "chase" the jackpot -- but jackpot size helps me decide which game to play. And if it happens, it happens. I have probably hit 10-12 RJ since I began playing online about 5 years ago. When that screen lights up and flashes the RJ it is so sweet!!

FWIW,

Diane

Oh gotcha, yeah I like to play a bunch of different games too
 

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