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Guts CHARGE you to deposit and withdraw with them ?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Nottsogreen, Jan 23, 2015.

    Jan 23, 2015
  1. Nottsogreen

    Nottsogreen Experienced Member MM

    Occupation:
    Sales Director
    Location:
    Nottingham, UK
    SO, reading (frequently !) on here how wonderful Guts are though i would give them a try.

    Opened account and went to deposit. Strange i thought, they don't have a DEBIT card option, only Credit ?

    I queried with Chat, (lovely helpful person!) who tells me that they treat debit as credit and charge 2.5% on deposits.

    Surely that instantly makes the RTP lower no ?

    In addition to that, they also charge £2.50 per withdrawal !

    SO depositing £100 (say) and playing for an hour and breaking even, actually means that you will get £95 back.

    Surely that is (in this case) a 5% reduction in RTP before you have spun a reel ???


    Im now trying hard to think of ANY operator that charges for Deposits !!
     
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  2. Jan 23, 2015
  3. andym

    andym Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    germany
    i use neteller and never have to pay a charge for a deposits at guts.

    But its correct that they charge you for withdrawing.

    My opinion on that:
    That was ok for me last year since Guts process their withdraws under 2 hours which was very fast at that time.

    But this year the charge is "outdated" since betsafe+casinoeuro process my withdraws now INSTANT without any charge.
    Also redbet process my withdraws usually under 2 hours without any charge.
     
  4. Jan 23, 2015
  5. mimi26

    mimi26 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    nurse
    Location:
    uk
    I dont mind the charge, I like the casino and the selection of games so it really does not bother me
     
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  6. Jan 23, 2015
  7. rshkrn

    rshkrn Senior Member

    Occupation:
    unemployed
    Location:
    Asia
    yeah some casinos do for those deposits......just like skrill and neteller
     
  8. Jan 23, 2015
  9. Nottsogreen

    Nottsogreen Experienced Member MM

    Occupation:
    Sales Director
    Location:
    Nottingham, UK
    But in a competetive marketplace

    I appreciate that the fast payouts are a very positive thing.

    But surely this should simply be a USP, not a chargeable item ! ;-)

    These games (range of games etc) are available at many places, why would we choose GUTS over Bet-at ?

    I just find it stunning in such a fast paced industry that a relative newcomer, highly praised for other areas of operations has such an archaic charge in place !

    /goes off to sign up at Bet-AT
     
  10. Jan 23, 2015
  11. Matti

    Matti Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    Business Development Tech
    Location:
    Sweden



    I know that Vera&John and MrGreen also charges 2,5% for deposit with Visa/MasterCard.

    Looking forward hearing someone give an accurate answer to the RTP question.
     
  12. Jan 23, 2015
  13. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    It doesn't effect the RTP on the games, obviously.

    But I can see where the OP is coming from: A deposit costing him £100 effectively only gives him £95 to play with.
    This is equivalent to playing the £100 through once on a 95% RTP slot and achieving exactly that return.

    It does seem harsh, but it depends on the full T&Cs of the casino. If you only have to wager your deposit x1 (or less) then I can see why they want to cover their transaction costs. But for players taking a bonus (with associated WR) or wagering their money through multiple times, it doesn't seem right to me.

    Something else to discuss at LAC next weekend! ;)

    KK
     
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  14. Jan 23, 2015
  15. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    uk
    deposits should never have any charges put to them even cards , yes im all for the 2,50 on withdrawals but i just wouldnt deposit at any casinos that is going to charge me , i would just close the account & move on.
     
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  16. Jan 23, 2015
  17. Nottsogreen

    Nottsogreen Experienced Member MM

    Occupation:
    Sales Director
    Location:
    Nottingham, UK
    LAC next week

    Yup.. let's do that kk. . I'll be there
     
  18. Jan 23, 2015
  19. Finn

    Finn Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Finland
    That credit card section includes debit cards. All casinos that accept credit cards accept debit cards and the fees for them are the same.
    Vast majority of casinos charge for credit/debit card deposits, usually that 2.5%.
     
  20. Jan 23, 2015
  21. Nottsogreen

    Nottsogreen Experienced Member MM

    Occupation:
    Sales Director
    Location:
    Nottingham, UK
    Don't agree..

    I me

    32 red
    inter casino
    bet 365

    To name but a few don't charge for visa debit deposits...
     
  22. Jan 23, 2015
  23. Finn

    Finn Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Finland
    It isn't really a question of opinion, fact is that clear majority of casinos charge for credit/debit card deposits, somewhere between 75-90% of casinos.
     
  24. Jan 23, 2015
  25. Finn

    Finn Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Finland
    Anyways Guts is exceptionally generous with free spins, that do not require any wagering, without withdrawal fees this could be easily exploited.
     
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  26. Jan 23, 2015
  27. Matti

    Matti Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    Business Development Tech
    Location:
    Sweden
    Hmm. I don't agree with you that the number is that high. Maybe this is worth a thread of it's own :)
     
  28. Jan 23, 2015
  29. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
    Location:
    Northants
    certainly not 75 - 90% of casinos charge as some person pointed out, But there is some that do.

    I personally do not mind this & Im a a small roller, Like the OP pointed out

    I queried with Chat, (lovely helpful person!) who tells me that they treat debit as credit and charge 2.5% on deposits

    Well do you not think a few quid is well worth the effort for great service and super quick withdraws, I mean its hard to get good cs now days and great bonuses, Free spins with no wager, You can probably count on one hand how many casinos give free withdraw/deposit along with good CS & fast cashouts, Some of the sites I play are bloody nightmare, 3-4 days pending, CS that have not a brain cell between them, I play as I have more luck at these palaces,

    So all in all its not going to break the break the bank, and alow it does not effect the RTP if we knew we was always only going to get our cash back at the best of times than why would we not just be playing free play?
     
  30. Jan 23, 2015
  31. Casino2014man

    Casino2014man Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Noneya
    Location:
    United Kingdom

    This could not be more wrong.

    I would say 95% have NO charge for debit card deposits so I have no idea what kind of casinos you use..
     
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  32. Jan 24, 2015
  33. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    If you see me - come and have a chat!
    And maybe a :cheers:

    I should be easy to spot - I'll almost certainly be wearing my black KK polo shirt... :rolleyes:
     

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  34. Jan 24, 2015
  35. doekoen

    doekoen Newbie member

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    Playtech donot charge

    Playtech donot charge credit card and withdrawal,but payment after 4 days to be processed.
     
  36. Jan 24, 2015
  37. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Occupation:
    Self- Employeed
    Location:
    Wolverhampton
    Paying a small, almost insignificant fee for a deposit or withdrawal doesn't bother me as a small but very regular depositor at Guts.

    They offer so many pluses to more than make up for this and are very generous if you have an ongoing bad run and as mentioned with regular wager free, FREE spins.

    What bothers me is regular poor game time for my deposits at bad casinos when the end result is always a lose getting nowhere near the wagering and the casino managers are not interested, the total opposite of Guts (not gonna name the guilty party on this one but it starts with 'S' ends in 'N' and has 3.14 in the middle :p )

    Guts is great, simple as and the fee will never bother me, honestly I don't even think about it now, just make sure I leave odd 50p in gaming bank account or use a ukash when depositing and allow an extra couple of quid when withdrawing, lets face it is only 6-7 spins at minimum bets its costing us :)

    All the best!!!!
     
  38. Jan 24, 2015
  39. SpinUk

    SpinUk Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    London
    What other Casino offers weekly free spins with no wagering on them. Without these charges, which protect the casino from abusers of these freespins, we would all not be able to benefit from this weekly offer.

    On a side note I had problems depositing on Thursday night due to some GUTS technical problems, in readiness for the 60 free spins offer over the weekend. Emailed Ben late last night, who came back within minutes, but also chucked in a further 30 free spins for the convenience. Who else offers that sort of service?

    I've said it before, they offer the best service around and (especially considering their size against the behemoths like 32red) deserve all the praise and success they get.
     

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