Grand Fortune(RTG Casino NEW or RENEW?)

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Any one out there know anything about this casino I have joined and it appears to be legit by that i mean there is no real heavy push on large deposit,s or any real out there bonus,s. It appears to be a legit site with good attempts at customer service i have not made a deposit yet and it is still a ? for me as i do value what i learn here at CM! There is a Brand Manager that e-mailed me and knew that i have played at RTG sites and made the offer to come and see. So i just want to see if anyone else has had this level of VIP service?
Sorry but i don,t trust as much as i use too. It just does not pay to be a ding dong:what: and that is a mistake that i do not wish to have happen ever again.Again this site is both US and EU facing and it is out of Cyprus and it appears to be at least trying to look good. So let me know what is up RTG has been very good to me as a player and i will always give them a try if they appear to be legit?There is a nice little $35 bonus and it can be played with only a e-mail verification but as the thread here has made it clear Free Money is not what it appears to be. AMEN to that!
Lucky Red was very good to me this week and i managed to have a good day Friday at the LR! I made a good play and came out of ahead by $1250.00 with a small deposit on a small bonus playback.It was too late on Friday to get much done but i look forward to Monday and to have a few extra bucks in the war cheat so to speak.Any way with a win at SlotoCash and this one i feel a bit better after almost a month of NADA! Lot,s going out and nothing coming in it test even the most seasoned player,s. Any way let me know if you have any words on this new one Grand Fortune and the very best of luck to you all! Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff
 

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RTG... so to avoid in my opinion. Just when you're American and you really want to play online, some RTG casino's should be an option.
 

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One single google search, look at this:

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- 5-7 days pending period!!!! :confused::what::mad:

- ranked 865 out of 936 is another flag

One single search on CM shows this:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...gs-confiscated-for-bonus-abuse.67690/?t=67690

However, credit to the rep of GF/Raging Bull - JasonFTA - he has been very active lately trying to set a few things right.

I would be cautious still...good luck :)

Is grand GF & RG Partners?
 

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Jason said in his first post that he is the rep for GF& RB, so i assumed they belong together.

Yes I ask because today on chat I was ask what casino I was playing at,

After reading a few complaints on the other sites I can say they do, Looks like Jason worked he's magic and sorted out problems on there :)
 

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seems same group , going by e mails i get i made a deposit via raging bull , but got a e mail from grand :confused:

jason should be able to clear this one up )
 

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Yes, Grand Fortune and Raging Bull are sister RTG casinos under the Fast-Track affiliate operator.

They also used to have Sunset Slots Rival casino, but for some bizarre reason they changed it to Top Game software in January this year :eek2:
That brand is run by a different team though - no longer anything to do with Jason and the 2 RTG casinos.

As many have already seen, Jason really is trying his best to make these casinos among the best & most reputable RTGs on the net. I have also had the pleasure of meeting him in person - and he really does come across as an honest, stand up guy :thumbsup:

I'm sure it won't be much longer before we see them in the BBF.

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So KasinoKong what would you say is it a bad play to try out Grand Fortune? I,am as i said feeling like maybe Jason is really trying and since he does post here i feel he may be what the RTG sites that are rogue may need. I mean all it takes is 1 person with a good agenda and the right kind of moves and the know how to make changes. And you have the right set up for a 1st class casino.I like the feel and the min. deposit range at $21 and there are the same size bonus that are on CM sites and it is not really any different than most SOOO far that is if i deposit and win and if there is a good response then i will be more than happy to say yep great place to play.
I will give a bit too see what happens and get back to you all soon! Peace Out! Out Of The Mist!
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Beware of max cashout

Yes, Grand Fortune and Raging Bull are sister RTG casinos under the Fast-Track affiliate operator.

They also used to have Sunset Slots Rival casino, but for some bizarre reason they changed it to Top Game software in January this year :eek2:
That brand is run by a different team though - no longer anything to do with Jason and the 2 RTG casinos.

As many have already seen, Jason really is trying his best to make these casinos among the best & most reputable RTGs on the net. I have also had the pleasure of meeting him in person - and he really does come across as an honest, stand up guy :thumbsup:

I'm sure it won't be much longer before we see them in the BBF.

KK

Seems like they and Jason are trying really hard to be a good casino. However, they do have that Draconian max cashout on bonuses. So, I guess, if you don't want a bonus, they are a good place. Great software (I love RTG) and seem responsive (based on CM forum) but I just am not sure players realize how horrible the max cashout is. If you want a small idea, just go to the 1000x screenshot page and wipe out most of those balances.
 

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So KasinoKong what would you say is it a bad play to try out Grand Fortune?
Oh look - I'm a giant gorilla now! :p
Yes, I obviously think they are a safe place to play - otherwise I would be listing them as recommended on my websites.
I honestly think they are one of the "good guys".


Seems like they and Jason are trying really hard to be a good casino. However, they do have that Draconian max cashout on bonuses. So, I guess, if you don't want a bonus, they are a good place. Great software (I love RTG) and seem responsive (based on CM forum) but I just am not sure players realize how horrible the max cashout is. If you want a small idea, just go to the 1000x screenshot page and wipe out most of those balances.
I totally understand that you have this complete aversion to max cash-out rules on any match bonuses, but I honestly don't think this is a majority view. My opinion is, and always will be, that each player should (obviously) read the T&Cs of any bonus offer they are taking - and if they don't like ANY of the rules (e.g. max cash-out limits) - don't take the bonus. Simple!
I know you and I will never agree on this, so let's agree to disagree! ;)

KK
 

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can agree to disagree

Oh look - I'm a giant gorilla now! :p
Yes, I obviously think they are a safe place to play - otherwise I would be listing them as recommended on my websites.
I honestly think they are one of the "good guys".



I totally understand that you have this complete aversion to max cash-out rules on any match bonuses, but I honestly don't think this is a majority view. My opinion is, and always will be, that each player should (obviously) read the T&Cs of any bonus offer they are taking - and if they don't like ANY of the rules (e.g. max cash-out limits) - don't take the bonus. Simple!
I know you and I will never agree on this, so let's agree to disagree! ;)

KK

I can agree to disagree, but I guarantee if you ever ran a simulation of max cashout vs. lower wagering requirements when playing only slots, you would then agree with me completely. Yes, of course you can read the rules, but I like bonuses. Gives me a better chance to win and extra time. I generally don't play without a bonus but I never play with a max cashout. I can agree to disagree but I will continue to try to inform on the horrors of max cashouts anytime I see a casino (US based) that has a max cashout on deposit bonuses getting any sort of positive publicity. I'm not slamming the casino, just making sure everyone is aware a) of the max bonus rule and b) how horrible this rule is.

Take even a 20x deposit max cashout (most are lower, like 10x) on a rather large ($100 deposit) with a moderate wager of $5 per spin (1/20th of the deposit, some casinos have rules that you can't wager more than 25% of the deposit, etc). On a 1000x hit = $5000, player only gets $2000. On a smaller deposit, player would get much less. On RTG, on a $20 or $50 deposit, player loses most of the value on any random jackpot, let alone one of those great spins with feature within feature or multiple expanding wilds. Yes, who will complain about $2000 (or $1000) on $100, but with slots it's very easy to lose thousands straight, and the big hits allow a player to get somewhere near even (close to RTP).

My biggest concern is that many players, especially inexperienced ones, will not realize how costly the max cashout is until it is too late. I understand it, so all it is costing me is the opportunity to play. Just like a casino is not allowed to offer wagers (eg roulette, craps) with too high of a house advantage (even though the rules are open for all to see), max cashouts on deposits should not be allowed. Note, in New Jersey, the commission expressly forbids any sort of max cashout on deposit bonuses for just this reason.

We can agree to disagree, but I will continue to make my point. Doesn't mean I don't like you or LOVE your website :)
 

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Many apologies KING I feel silly but it is a honest mistake. I have the same problem with my name shewoff people automatically think i,m a girl but far from it, its the name of one of my hybrid,s of which i have had many wolf and dog. And pure wolf they all deserve special names and this one was a pure white female that i loved too death. Again very sorry but as to your answer i think it is a good look thru your eyes at a casinos that has yet to either make me feel any way until i give them some of my money and take some back! And oh yes i love RTG also i have played a lot of them Micro. and Net but the games are much more entertaining at most RTG sites. I like the way they let a player know what games are hot and what games are not. This gives a inside edge that if done correctly you can make a wise decision and reap the benefits. A win maybe a small one or a large one. But i feel the key is the word "WIN"!!!
I will play at Grand Fortune this week end and see what happens and i don,t think i,am interested in any bonus that i know will be too hard to get out from underneath a max cashout. I have done that stuff in the past and i felt kinda like a dog chasing his tale.But if the bonus has a no max count me in.:thumbsup:
On a bit of a different note i went to the link
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that Harry put in to my thread and sent them some of my e-mail jpg,s and they can,t help because the casino,s are not listed on their site. I saw that they had helped a few members with both and had some good results.They said contact licensing authority or a good lawyer.I may do both i feel kinda postal:mad: Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff
 

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I can agree to disagree, but I guarantee if you ever ran a simulation of max cashout vs. lower wagering requirements when playing only slots, you would then agree with me completely. Yes, of course you can read the rules, but I like bonuses. Gives me a better chance to win and extra time. I generally don't play without a bonus but I never play with a max cashout. I can agree to disagree but I will continue to try to inform on the horrors of max cashouts anytime I see a casino (US based) that has a max cashout on deposit bonuses getting any sort of positive publicity. I'm not slamming the casino, just making sure everyone is aware a) of the max bonus rule and b) how horrible this rule is.

Take even a 20x deposit max cashout (most are lower, like 10x) on a rather large ($100 deposit) with a moderate wager of $5 per spin (1/20th of the deposit, some casinos have rules that you can't wager more than 25% of the deposit, etc). On a 1000x hit = $5000, player only gets $2000. On a smaller deposit, player would get much less. On RTG, on a $20 or $50 deposit, player loses most of the value on any random jackpot, let alone one of those great spins with feature within feature or multiple expanding wilds. Yes, who will complain about $2000 (or $1000) on $100, but with slots it's very easy to lose thousands straight, and the big hits allow a player to get somewhere near even (close to RTP).

My biggest concern is that many players, especially inexperienced ones, will not realize how costly the max cashout is until it is too late. I understand it, so all it is costing me is the opportunity to play. Just like a casino is not allowed to offer wagers (eg roulette, craps) with too high of a house advantage (even though the rules are open for all to see), max cashouts on deposits should not be allowed. Note, in New Jersey, the commission expressly forbids any sort of max cashout on deposit bonuses for just this reason.

We can agree to disagree, but I will continue to make my point. Doesn't mean I don't like you or LOVE your website :)
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Amazing what some things trigger players and what others won't.....give me max cashout any day vs 120x playthrough....(trying to lighten it up a bit in here ) But this is the only offer for me at this time for the last 2 months at this casino......no deposit forthcoming...as they might guess...LMAO...it is a true offer....moving on to....you guessed it! :thumbsup:
 

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Amazing what some things trigger players and what others won't.....give me max cashout any day vs 120x playthrough....(trying to lighten it up a bit in here ) But this is the only offer for me at this time for the last 2 months at this casino......no deposit forthcoming...as they might guess...LMAO...it is a true offer....moving on to....you guessed it! :thumbsup:

Note that this bonus allows table games, including normal blackjack. 120x for slots is over the line and I've never seen anything even close to this for slots only. Note that house edge on slots is between 5 and 10x (or more) than it is on blackjack and double or triple games like three card poker.

I just hate when I get big slots wins truncated. It's all in good fun and faith, KK and I are very friendly :)
 

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One of the things that continues to bother me in a weird way is that i was contacted first by Jason and then after i had joined i was contacted by Pete Armstrong the Promotions Manager and and the e-mail that came from him was listed as the Relationship Manager :eek2::eek2: And it has kinda freaked me out!
Its just that i have learned that too many people making contact is not really too cool.I mean by the time your done you don.t know who is who?And it is a bad way to start call me paranoid. I don.t card if it saves me the indignity of winning and not collecting my winnings and feeling like a fool all over again. WELL! At any rate i am stuck here with a thought of what is the best i think i will and if i do! what will happen its a real mind-:what: and i don,t want that if you know what i mean its kinda funny but i will give them the benefit of the doubt and try as i said i would.Peace Out! Out Of The Mist!
 

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