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[SlotKing]

Every time we see someone on here complaining about losing somewhere, they usually have some sort of proof that they had a bad session.

Then we have skiny.

"I lost. This casino is bad." Proof? None.

"I can't win a damn thing. This casino is pathetic." Proof? None.

"3Dice can individually set RTP's per player." Proof? None.


If you are so hell bent on destroying 3Dice's reputation skiny, with not a drop of tangible proof, you should expect without a doubt that the casino (or anyone for that matter) will do whatever they can to mitigate any damage they can. This includes posting what you call "personal account information."

However, if you would have done a little research, you would see that in section 3 of their privacy policy, at the very end, Term 4 states this:

(a) General: The information is used to: (1) Ensure that you are at least eighteen years of age, or the legal age to gamble in your applicable Jurisdiction, whichever is higher. (2) Provide our on line gambling service and process your transactions, such as your wagers or payments of any winnings. (3) Provide customer service and resolve any complaints. (4) Improve our product and service and troubleshoot any problems. (5) Communicate with you concerning the services offered on the site by 3Dice.com. (6) Ensure compliance with the Terms of Use. (7) To obtain and verify evidence of our customers identity.
(b) Disclosure to Third Parties: 3Dice.com will NOT sell or rent any of your personal information to third parties. Further, we will NOT share any of your personal information with third parties except in the limited circumstances described herein or with your express permission.
3Dice.com discloses information: (1) To companies that help process the transactions you request, protect your transactions from fraud and verify your identity. (2) That 3Dice.com feels is necessary to do investigations of fraud, other activity that is illegal or may expose us or you to legal liability, or to conduct investigations of violations of the Terms of Use. (3) To comply with legal, regulatory or administrative requirements of governmental authorities.

(4) To protect and defend 3Dice.com , its subsidiaries and employees.
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Using the terms is not something I like doing to disapprove of behavior. But 3Dice is totally within their right to disclose limited information about your account to defend itself. Other than saying that overall you are up at the casino, what personal information did they post?

They didn't post your name.
They didn't post your address.
They didn't post your phone number.
They didn't post your deposit history.
They didn't post your withdrawal history.
They didn't post your credit/debit cards, your e-wallet details, etc.
They didn't post your (probably) hundreds of PM's and support calls all (probably) saying how you hate this place and the RTP sucks.

I re-iterate... What personal information did they post?

There is no such thing as a "per-account RTP" - if there was, don't you think, regardless of how "good" it was "hidden", that someone would eventually catch on and prove it?

You have done nothing but blow hot air and provide a ridiculously small sample size to compare your results to. Spin a million times, then come back and prove something.

BTW - I could give a rat's petutie less if you call me any name in the book. But what I am saying is the truth. If you have a problem with what I say, tough $hit.

 

[skiny]

binshakindown, your post is really hard to follow. I actually read it twice. I'm not really sure how some of it applies but I will say this, if you think opinions are like assholes and you'd rather not see (or hear) everyone's you probably shouldn't belong to a public forum. Personally I see opinions a little different and I was happy to hear yours.

Slotking, that was a long well thought out post but I wasn't talking about my personal information so it doesn't apply either.

There is no such thing as a "per-account RTP" - if there was, don't you think, regardless of how "good" it was "hidden", that someone would eventually catch on and prove it?

How? By saying they've had sudden long streaks of losses? People have been saying that to me for months. How do you prove that any casino is fixing the odds? You can hope that they weren't given that ability by the manufacturer since they would have nothing to gain by it. Unless you manufacture your own software.

 

[binshakindown]

To opine one has bad luck is okay and most

here, including the casino reps wouldn't have a problem with that. That is an opinion. But to infer, suggest, imply that a casino can change individual RTP's or do other "inappropriate" things (to cheat the player) may still be your opinion but when publicly stated, can become an allegation, accusation, etc. that could cause you to have legal or logging in problems.

Sure, I haven't heard of any casino's suing with respect to this issue, but after this thread, who knows.

I think it is simple really.

 

[skiny]

here, including the casino reps wouldn't have a problem with that. That is an opinion. But to infer, suggest, imply that a casino can change individual RTP's or do other "inappropriate" things (to cheat the player) may still be your opinion but when publicly stated, can become an allegation, accusation, etc. that could cause you to have legal or logging in problems.

Sure, I haven't heard of any casino's suing with respect to this issue, but after this thread, who knows.

I think it is simple really.

So are you suggesting that nobody here should infer, imply or suggest that any casino is doing anything wrong without first finding tangible proof strong enough to bring charges to them in court? I don't know. Maybe I read it wrong.

Hmm. I'm wondering if statements made in casino chat rooms could be considered allegations. Either way, I'm not really concerned about being sued. It's been tried before online and all that accomplished was to make me less.... friendly. Besides, I don't think any casino would want their name and reputation dragged though a public court room. That would be a whole new can of worms. More independent auditing, the legality of operating in certain countries, player opinions, maybe a look at the code to see what exactly is possible on an operator level... I'm not even sure what would be involved. It would make for some good long threads here though.

I'm glad you changed your stance on opinions though. Freedom of expression is the backbone of any good forum.