GoWildLaurie's 3Dice slot tournament.

skiny

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I won. Yay me. 30 bucks.

All minimum bet.

10 bucks in Tut. 50 spins.
10 bucks in Fortune Falls 72 spins.
10 bucks in Happy Valley. 102 spins.

$30 lost. $45.80 wagered. This came with a $300 playthrough by the way.

50% sounds about right. The last 25 dollars lasted less than 10 minutes. There's a reason I don't deposit at this casino. You can call it bad luck, you can call it variance, you can call it anything you like but I call it spinning over 200 times and hitting crap every spin. (I think I got one or two good spins in FF. If not for those I'd have wagered $38 for my $30) Not a bonus feature to be seen. I might have hit two scatters a half dozen times out of the 200 spins.

I'm fairly certain my RTP is set below 65% and has been for a while now. Who's to say this software doesn't allow the RTP to be set on a player by player basis? These sessions just enforce why I give my money to RTG and MG. I don't even remember the last time I only wagered 1.5x my starting balance at these casinos. I'm sure it's happened at some point but it's awful rare and most casinos would be sympathetic about it.

Well, I guess 3Dice is sympathetic about it. If you've ever discussed a string of these sessions with support you do get one of these faces. :(

Then they ask if there's anything they can help you with. And when you suggest raising your RTP back up to something above 50% they say there's nothing they can do. And then do this :( again.

I wonder if community tournaments could be held at an MG casino where there would actually be a point in winning the money.
 

GGW Laurie

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I won. Yay me. 30 bucks.

All minimum bet.

10 bucks in Tut. 50 spins.
10 bucks in Fortune Falls 72 spins.
10 bucks in Happy Valley. 102 spins.

$30 lost. $45.80 wagered. This came with a $300 playthrough by the way.

50% sounds about right. The last 25 dollars lasted less than 10 minutes. There's a reason I don't deposit at this casino. You can call it bad luck, you can call it variance, you can call it anything you like but I call it spinning over 200 times and hitting crap every spin. (I think I got one or two good spins in FF. If not for those I'd have wagered $38 for my $30) Not a bonus feature to be seen. I might have hit two scatters a half dozen times out of the 200 spins.

I'm fairly certain my RTP is set below 65% and has been for a while now. Who's to say this software doesn't allow the RTP to be set on a player by player basis? These sessions just enforce why I give my money to RTG and MG. I don't even remember the last time I only wagered 1.5x my starting balance at these casinos. I'm sure it's happened at some point but it's awful rare and most casinos would be sympathetic about it.

Well, I guess 3Dice is sympathetic about it. If you've ever discussed a string of these sessions with support you do get one of these faces. :(

Then they ask if there's anything they can help you with. And when you suggest raising your RTP back up to something above 50% they say there's nothing they can do. And then do this :( again.

I wonder if community tournaments could be held at an MG casino where there would actually be a point in winning the money.


I thought you did very well skiny, you were the comeback kid, clawed your way all the way to the top number one spot in a short time, your name has been posted in the "Winners Hall Of Fame":thumbsup:
 

oldtrvlagt

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Sorry..total derail..but I LOVE the avatar:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:lolup::lolup::lolup:
 

3Dice

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Joined
Feb 14, 2007
Location
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I won. Yay me. 30 bucks.

All minimum bet.

10 bucks in Tut. 50 spins.
10 bucks in Fortune Falls 72 spins.
10 bucks in Happy Valley. 102 spins.

$30 lost. $45.80 wagered. This came with a $300 playthrough by the way.

50% sounds about right. The last 25 dollars lasted less than 10 minutes. There's a reason I don't deposit at this casino. You can call it bad luck, you can call it variance, you can call it anything you like but I call it spinning over 200 times and hitting crap every spin. (I think I got one or two good spins in FF. If not for those I'd have wagered $38 for my $30) Not a bonus feature to be seen. I might have hit two scatters a half dozen times out of the 200 spins.

I'm fairly certain my RTP is set below 65% and has been for a while now. Who's to say this software doesn't allow the RTP to be set on a player by player basis? These sessions just enforce why I give my money to RTG and MG. I don't even remember the last time I only wagered 1.5x my starting balance at these casinos. I'm sure it's happened at some point but it's awful rare and most casinos would be sympathetic about it.

Well, I guess 3Dice is sympathetic about it. If you've ever discussed a string of these sessions with support you do get one of these faces. :(

Then they ask if there's anything they can help you with. And when you suggest raising your RTP back up to something above 50% they say there's nothing they can do. And then do this :( again.

I wonder if community tournaments could be held at an MG casino where there would actually be a point in winning the money.

Skiny,

Why is it that every time you have a bad session you have to follow it up with public allegations and accusations at the address of 3Dice ? - and each time, without any proof whatsoever.

I know you think you post 'evidence' .. but there's two simple reasons why anything and everything you post from your own history or experience can only disprove your point, these reasons are :

1. you're substantially ahead in real money play at 3Dice.
2. you win more than the average number of tournaments.

These are two simple and undeniable facts. Any propositions you've made are principally incompatible with these two observations. Anything you derive from your own experience that arrives at a conclusion that you've had an unfair amount of luck is principally incompatible with these two observations.

Losing your $30 tourney prize proves nothing.

Losing your $30 tourney prize and making a public post with allegations that 3Dice is cheating does prove something .. think about it ..

Regards,

Enzo.



@Chuchu, I'm not talking about this session but about his explicit allegations in this and other posts of 3Dice cheating. You simply can't walk out of the casino with more than you came in with and call them thieves. It's a contradictio in terminis to do so. The only thing that is unfair here are his statements about 3Dice. I've attempted and failed at handling things with Skiny in pm, but he insists on continuing to make these type of posts. I personally feel the CM audience deserves to have the full view on the situation. I merely corrected a statement of his (him having bad luck) to the truth.
 
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chuchu59

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I seldom play 3 Dice slots because of their high variance but when we are only talking of a few dozen spins on 3 different slots anything can happen. The RTP shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath. Even when poor old Rusty was examining his slot play he was usually referring to poor returns for hundreds of spins for each slot.

@Enzo, we understand the high variance thing but you neednt have to point out that Skiny was ahead at 3 Dice or that he won many tourneys. The high variance argument is solid enough.
 

Lucky Loser

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I win more at 3Dice than anywhere else. The high variance of their slots make them very exciting, If you want the big wins you have to expect losses and very lean periods.

At first I lost my ass playing their slots and thought they were crap etc. But now I am used to the variance and winning more often than losing. You have to have deep pockets or get a nice win early in a session. The trick seems to be quickly changing slots if one is not paying because another maybe in payout mode.
 

zap987

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PABnononaccred2
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Location
Sweden
So first you whine that you don't win tournaments and then when you win you whine that you don't win in real mode with the tournament wins.

You are accusing a good casino of cheating without any proof, not once but in several threads. Maybe I just see things different, but for me a casino that cheats with their games is something very serious, it's not something you throw out after a bad run. To me it's the same as calling them thieves and crimnals because that's what they are and I'm guessing you don't go around calling people you don't like in real life that?
 

Deeplay

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Yet more casino negativity - sure its good to rant somtimes I am very prone to that myself. But to out a casino with allegations of setting RTPS per account etc ??? 3dice is one the places I play at weekly and for some reason the past few weeks I have made cashouts on I think around 2 out of every 3 of my sessions. Does this mean that Enzo n crew have singled me out for a 1400000000 % RTP ? no of course not it just means I got lucky and am winning while someone else is loosing.

Then they are the times when I cant hit a damn thing - does this mean they have cunningly dropped my RTP - ? come on get real. It just means I lost - it was not my day and no doubt at the same time im loosing somone else is having a ball getting the hits. Thats gambling. 3Dice in my view is one of the fairest outfits out there. Sure High varience most slots but thats the game take it or leave it. And no I aint been paid to write this;) just depressing to read so many negative posts lately about this or that casino :confused:
 

skiny

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Location
Canada
Skiny,

Why is it that every time you have a bad session you have to follow it up with public allegations and accusations at the address of 3Dice ? - and each time, without any proof whatsoever.

I know you think you post 'evidence' .. but there's two simple reasons why anything and everything you post from your own history or experience can only disprove your point, these reasons are :

1. you're substantially ahead in real money play at 3Dice.
2. you win more than the average number of tournaments.

These are two simple and undeniable facts. Any propositions you've made are principally incompatible with these two observations. Anything you derive from your own experience that arrives at a conclusion that you've had an unfair amount of luck is principally incompatible with these two observations.

Losing your $30 tourney prize proves nothing.

Losing your $30 tourney prize and making a public post with allegations that 3Dice is cheating does prove something .. think about it ..

Regards,

Enzo.



@Chuchu, I'm not talking about this session but about his explicit allegations in this and other posts of 3Dice cheating. You simply can't walk out of the casino with more than you came in with and call them thieves. It's a contradictio in terminis to do so. The only thing that is unfair here are his statements about 3Dice. I've attempted and failed at handling things with Skiny in pm, but he insists on continuing to make these type of posts. I personally feel the CM audience deserves to have the full view on the situation. I merely corrected a statement of his (him having bad luck) to the truth.

Oh, you can answer posts. I guess you just don't answer the ones directed at you specifically.
 

skiny

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Canada
Skiny - you gambled and lost.

Accept that you lost this time and move on.

Throwing around unfounded accusations about an accredited casino (again) just makes you look like a sore loser and severely reduces your credibility.

It's not my credibility that's in question.

But then who knows? Maybe he answered me in 3dice chat again where he knows I can't see it. :p
 

refre

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It's not my credibility that's in question.

But then who knows? Maybe he answered me in 3dice chat again where he knows I can't see it. :p

What was the question skiny?
Remember we've already established

1. you're substantially ahead in real money play at 3Dice.
2. you win more than the average number of tournaments.


Freddy
 

zap987

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The only reason Skiny's credibility isn't in question is because it's at 0. If you're going to accuse a casino of being criminals either post proof or go away.
 

skiny

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The only reason Skiny's credibility isn't in question is because it's at 0. If you're going to accuse a casino of being criminals either post proof or go away.

Yes. It is true to the little 3Dice cult my credibility is at 0. Of course, not everyone who plays at this casino agrees with this group so there is no consensus. My opinion matters to me. If it matters to a small handful of people with their arms crossed and their bottom lips sticking out isn't really all that important.
 

rockycatt

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Oct 26, 2008
Location
Boston
about 2 monts ago i was in a slump every were i never complained to any one than out of no were i get 350.00. 300.00, 1,300.00 500.00, 200.00
150.00 on its way and last 300.00 on its way from 3 dice

i just cant get it how there not head and shoulders above the rest

ill put a link to all my cash hits there because i want them to prevail
it's in all our common interest

best wishes to all rockycatt
 

chayton

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I think most players have a love/hate kinda thing with 3Dice. It's not the first place I think of if I feel like depositing $20 and having a whole evening of entertainment, that's for sure! However, I've had a few decent hits there - if my gambling budget was bigger I'd probably play there more than I have recently. The chances of getting a good hit on a small deposit are slim, but it IS possible. And other times it just sucks completely. Just like real life.

That being said, service is top notch, and with instant payouts they have my loyalty - but only $20 at a time. :)
 

skiny

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about 2 monts ago i was in a slump every were i never complained to any one than out of no were i get 350.00. 300.00, 1,300.00 500.00, 200.00
150.00 on its way and last 300.00 on its way from 3 dice

i just cant get it how there not head and shoulders above the rest

ill put a link to all my cash hits there because i want them to prevail
it's in all our common interest

best wishes to all rockycatt

I won more than the total of all those wins at once on a RJ at a rogue RTG casino and got paid.... What was your point again?
 

Mavin1

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The only reason Skiny's credibility isn't in question is because it's at 0. If you're going to accuse a casino of being criminals either post proof or go away.


One can say Skiny and those of us that have complained now and in the past are sore losers, need to move on if we aren't happy and so on, I don't find a problem with that. But to say a poster has "O" credibility is a personal attack because someone doesn't like what he said, that's not necessary.
Having a negative rant does not say that Skiny or anyone else is calling casinos criminals, but thinking is still stuck in that narrow vision of what a rant is.
In a previous post of mine, I stated that not allowing members to vent their frustrations of how up and down a casino can be, gives readers that may be green in the gambling field, a false perception of gambling returns at any one casino.
If you have only Kudos and praises all over the forum for Accredited casinos, then you are presenting youselves as shills of another kind. New players read these threads, run to these casinos with the idea that Accredited means hot! This is not the case, but they only learn this after playing for some time and find that no one casino is hot, but any one casino can have it hot streaks.
So I say, in forum discussions, because this is what this is, discussions about players experiences and such, not just free advertisment by the happy players, gives balance to a sometimes very unbalanced pastime.

Players new and old should be able to understand that "Accredited", means reliable and trustworthy in how they deal with the player, answering questions, keeping personal information private, paying players and paying in a timely manner and has a rep on the forum available if the need arises.

Accredited, does not mean a hot, loose casino, by any means, thus balance in discussions, should not be discouraged unless it is way out of line.

JMO
 

skiny

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One can say Skiny and those of us that have complained now and in the past are sore losers, need to move on if we aren't happy and so on, I don't find a problem with that. But to say a poster has "O" credibility is a personal attack because someone doesn't like what he said, that's not necessary.
Having a negative rant does not say that Skiny or anyone else is calling casinos criminals, but thinking is still stuck in that narrow vision of what a rant is.
In a previous post of mine, I stated that not allowing members to vent their frustrations of how up and down a casino can be, gives readers that may be green in the gambling field, a false perception of gambling returns at any one casino.
If you have only Kudos and praises all over the forum for Accredited casinos, then you are presenting youselves as shills of another kind. New players read these threads, run to these casinos with the idea that Accredited means hot! This is not the case, but they only learn this after playing for some time and find that no one casino is hot, but any one casino can have it hot streaks.
So I say, in forum discussions, because this is what this is, discussions about players experiences and such, not just free advertisment by the happy players, gives balance to a sometimes very unbalanced pastime.

Players new and old should be able to understand that "Accredited", means reliable and trustworthy in how they deal with the player, answering questions, keeping personal information private, paying players and paying in a timely manner and has a rep on the forum available if the need arises.

Accredited, does not mean a hot, loose casino, by any means, thus balance in discussions, should not be discouraged unless it is way out of line.

JMO

Accredited means keeping personal information private?
 

rockycatt

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Location
Boston
I won more than the total of all those wins at once on a RJ at a rogue RTG casino and got paid.... What was your point again?

your kidding :confused: correct with the negative 3 dice chatter im seeing :D

ps ')

or put me in the well
 

binshakindown

Time sure flys
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CO
Implying that your luck is Bad luck, I repeat, BAD LUCK

is a hell of a lot different than posting about a casino, and writing something to the effect like, casino, why don't you change the RTP? Asking a casino to "change the RTP" is in my opinion very close to asking a grocery store (or in some backwards places, a liquor store) to quit watering down the whiskey. In some places, making an accusation like this could lead to your arrest, lawsuit, or even (insert your own imagination).

For example, my luck is the worst at 3Dice. My luck so frinken sucks, I mean, wow, I couldn't even win real money off of the free money that I won during a free tournament, or even when I played a VIP tournament and won free money that I subsequently lost fast.

Stating things this way is much different and can even give the opportunity for folks to empathize with you. Why? I have been there, just as many have been as well.

I mean, I went to a town that that is trying to be a mini Reno, NV and brought a $1,000. I only played the high variance slots. The biggest win of the entire 2 days was $70 on a $2.50 a spin bet. I even played at four different casinos. I mean, crap, I lost again.

And yes it may be your and others opinion, but like they say, opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. This is true, but good advice is that one shouldn't go around showing everyone their asshole either.

The penalty to the casino for you implying the casino is not being straight up is that the casino suffers possible financial losses and could damage their hard earned good reputation. Your penalty? Not a darn thing. Well, maybe your account gets closed out. I am not saying anything that should come as a news flash to folks.

I wonder when the casinos out there are going to start holding the players accountable for their actions (and yes words have action, they are called verbs). I personally agree with what Enzo did. Remember, he did not give out anymore information than was needed. Also remember, you chose to use the public forum to hear your case. I refuse to only hear one side of the story. So my question is why not use the PAB feature? That way you could have made your case, and 3Dice could have made theirs, all while being kept out of the public view. I pose this to you a different way. There is with some amount certainty, no reputable court of law could settle your problem. Simply because this opinion, like many others are based on speculation or selective memory. What would you do in a public forum if the PAB service that has strict rules concerning discussing a case publicly was non-existent? You would openly post as you have done. Your opinion that your luck sucks is A okay with me. Your opinion that a casino is not being straight up? Prove it or put some pants on.

Some peoples lives have been trampled over by various state governments here in the US. You know why? Because some stupid neighbor turned either informant for the man or became satan for the day and decided to make false accusations about either their neighbor's or someone they knew. In one case a couples kids went into foster care for a couple months while the parents underwent shrinking, probing, and spending a lot of money to get their kids back. All based on a false accusation. The couple never knew who their accuser was/were. The couple never was charged, convicted, fined, nothing but had to spend two months of hell fighting for their kids.

As a disclaimer, I am a gambler, I love gambling, I hate losing, I love winning, I don't like to pay taxes but I do, I wish my luck would change, I am not getting paid for this post, I am not a shill, I am not on the pill, I am not an affiliate, I like 3Dice transparency, I lose at 3Dice a lot, I have won some big bucks at 3Dice, US players have even less selection to play on-line, No hard feelings :D.
 
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