Governments that forbid play at accredited casinos

Like Harry said, I was actually thinking the same thing we don't want the snoopers and certainly no more barriers :)

lets talk some of the topics via private chat, safer ;)

This suggestion sounds good - in theory.

However, by limiting any discussion re Australian gambling to private chats, you are excluding everyone who is not privy to that chat, which will mean any player (CM member or lurker) who wants to learn more about where we can play, and more. In effect, you will be creating a two-tier level of discussion - blocked to everyone except the privileged few invited to the private chat.

Of course, as both you and @Harry_BKK have stated, open discussions can lead to too much information being shared with those pesky unwanted investigators.

So to overcome that, would not the ideal solution be to have a section similar to America the Brave? Still restrictive, but eventually will have a far wider audience than just private chats?
 
This suggestion sounds good - in theory.

However, by limiting any discussion re Australian gambling to private chats, you are excluding everyone who is not privy to that chat, which will mean any player (CM member or lurker) who wants to learn more about where we can play, and more. In effect, you will be creating a two-tier level of discussion - blocked to everyone except the privileged few invited to the private chat.

Of course, as both you and @Harry_BKK have stated, open discussions can lead to too much information being shared with those pesky unwanted investigators.

So to overcome that, would not the ideal solution be to have a section similar to America the Brave? Still restrictive, but eventually will have a far wider audience than just private chats?

Yeah it makes it really hard either way and just want to be careful, I usually just pm members if I need to find out more detailed info :)
 
Normally I'd say keep the info public. But as I understand it vs aren't accepting any new players from au so it's a pretty limited pool of people that will require it.
 
Australia’s economy is and probably always will be been built on outrageous cronyism and monopolies, its just been slow on the uptake keeping up with technological advances like internet gambling.

Like other posts here confirm, its NOTHING to do with the anti-gambling lobbies - the Aussie government couldn't give two shits about that - and everything to do with keeping profits up for the B&M owners and their mates in government. Their alcohol industry is kept running along the same lines, same as their banking industry. Small time views run by close knit families, much like Vegas was run in the 70s.

I hope VS told the government official where to go - cheeky f***ers.
 
what will the Australian government do to casinos that accept Australian players? And to Australian players who gamble online?
From what I heard when all this started , was their funds were to be returned to where it came from. The banks were told not to allow the money even to hit peoples accounts. Canada is so connected with Aussie laws, I wouldnt be surprised if they were taking a look at how things play out on their side.
 
Australia’s economy is and probably always will be been built on outrageous cronyism and monopolies, its just been slow on the uptake keeping up with technological advances like internet gambling.

Like other posts here confirm, its NOTHING to do with the anti-gambling lobbies - the Aussie government couldn't give two shits about that - and everything to do with keeping profits up for the B&M owners and their mates in government. Their alcohol industry is kept running along the same lines, same as their banking industry. Small time views run by close knit families, much like Vegas was run in the 70s.

I hope VS told the government official where to go - cheeky f***ers.

That is not entirely true.

In 2016, Australians lost more money per person than any other developed nation.

Apparently there are over 196k pokies in Australia, and where there are pokies, incidents of social problems, such as domestic violence, are far higher than those areas where pokies are fewer.

Gambling is prolific among disadvantaged aussies, and there is widespread dismay that many indigenous aussies are spending their benefits on gambling and alcohol, and not on the necessities of life (food, rent, etc).

It is these factors that anti-gambling lobbies are highlighting, and which are behind their attempts to ban gambling, both onshore and offshore.

But...perhaps the anti-gambling crusade, of which the govt advocates it is a firm believer, may simply be a smokescreen after all.

Because the crux of the matter seems to be...preventing any restriction to onshore gambling "is a powerful gambling industry, and their cozy relations with the government."

If this is the case, it is despicable, and certainly appears the govt is playing with a double-edged sword: Ban offshore to appease the anti-gambling lobby which also benefits the Aussie gambling industry, by removing the offshore competition.

One further point: CM mentioned in an earlier post that online sports betting is legal. However this type of betting is apparently causing a major gambling problem among young men, so why is it legal, and not online casinos? Beggars belief, IMHO.

I agree with your sentiment re VS. However, they have also rolled over as they are not accepting any new players from Australia.

what will the Australian government do to casinos that accept Australian players? And to Australian players who gamble online?

It is not illegal for aussies to gamble online at any offshore casino, so there are no penalties involved - it is just illegal for offshore casinos to offer their services to us Aussies.

However, I would also love to know what the govt can do to those offshore casinos that still allow us to play, as those are outside of the govt's jurisdiction.
 
From what I heard when all this started , was their funds were to be returned to where it came from. The banks were told not to allow the money even to hit peoples accounts. Canada is so connected with Aussie laws, I wouldnt be surprised if they were taking a look at how things play out on their side.

Bebo, I don't think this is accurate. Some banks are certainly preventing use of credit/debit cards for deposits, which would possibly also affect withdrawals. However other major banks do not have these restrictions.

Of course, in time this may all change, to the detriment of us all over here.
 
This suggestion sounds good - in theory.

However, by limiting any discussion re Australian gambling to private chats, you are excluding everyone who is not privy to that chat, which will mean any player (CM member or lurker) who wants to learn more about where we can play, and more. In effect, you will be creating a two-tier level of discussion - blocked to everyone except the privileged few invited to the private chat.

Of course, as both you and @Harry_BKK have stated, open discussions can lead to too much information being shared with those pesky unwanted investigators.

So to overcome that, would not the ideal solution be to have a section similar to America the Brave? Still restrictive, but eventually will have a far wider audience than just private chats?


We should not stop discussing and exchanging info but a slight attempt to hide the hints as Dan did it in his post would make it less obvious. There's no need to spill the beans in full display. :D

Just my suggestion, everyone can of course post how they like or see fit.
 
Bebo, I don't think this is accurate. Some banks are certainly preventing use of credit/debit cards for deposits, which would possibly also affect withdrawals. However other major banks do not have these restrictions.

Of course, in time this may all change, to the detriment of us all over here.
It was in an article that I read some time ago. Banks were not allowed to process incoming casino monies. It's late here in Canada right now, but tomorrow I will look for it :)
 
I just did a quick Google, and all the money laundering that comes up for Australia. Some articles dated back as far as 2011. So that seems to be a problem from the get go?
 
This.
It's nothing to do with the population's wellness - if that were ever a concern then they wouldn't profit from smokes, booze and land based casinos.
It's an enormous conflict of interest, the government is run by businesses at the expense of the public.
I think somewhat along the same lines whenever I read stories about people calling for a ban on this and that. History has shown us that bans don't work as people will find a way. Look at how well prohibition worked out for the government in the US in the 30's. All that prohibition created was a bunch of criminals and people still found a way to drink. Just an example.

If the Australian government was so worried about it's citizens gambling then it would ban all casinos, online and land based.The fact that they chose to ban the online ones proves that they are only concerned with the people who own the land based casinos and their profits. But hey what do I know?
 
In Belgium there's only a handful of operators that have a license from the Belgian Gaming Commission. None of the big dogs like VS are active here, they don't accept Belgian customers. The catch is that online casino's that want to get a license need to be affilliated with a brick & mortar casino. There's only 4 online casino's out of 9 which are internationally known: Unibet, bwin, Ladbrokes and Betway. As most of you know those are all big sportsbooks too. The other 5 casino's are all local brands.

Anyway, even with the smaller amount of casino's available we can still play most of the providers and games with only a few missing like Gamomat. The other downside is that gamereleases can be really late compared to the big international casino's.

On the upside: there's very little stories of casino's not paying the customer since it's all very heavily regulated and with them being affilliated with landbased casino's you can actually go to the casino and complain. Some even offer you to get your withdrawals at their casino.
 
I urge anyone to refrain from informative posts like the one from Gaz237 (no offense please). It just helps investigators to find people and casinos who are trying to circumvent the laws/restrictions. When you search for gambling related stuff, CM is very often on page 1 and hence, somebody sniffing around here could easily find the information the government is looking for and to get into action for installing even more barriers. D's post was the perfect example how to formulate a hidden hint. :)

Just my two cents.

Point taken,

To late to edit.
 

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