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Governments that forbid play at accredited casinos

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by nikantw, Jun 1, 2018.

    Jun 1, 2018
  1. nikantw

    nikantw Ueber Meister MM PABaccred

    Occupation:
    A bit of this and that
    Location:
    EU
    Latest news from VS rep:

    "We recently got contacted by the Australian government and they requested us to make sure no players are able to play while being in Australia."

    WTF!

    Governments do get out of their way to make sure you can only play at rogue casinos, don't they?
    And things will get worst....

    I say those are rogue governments. This thread is not only about Australia, it is for all that do things like that. For our "protection" as they dare to say.
     
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  2. Jun 1, 2018
  3. robby811

    robby811 I´m addicted 2 Hardcore Techno Music !!! webby MM

    Location:
    germany
    pfff I m happy that i don t live there, with such a Government....
     
  4. Jun 1, 2018
  5. pinnit2014

    pinnit2014 Senior Member MM PABinit

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    Work with figures, other audit-y things
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Nothing more depressing than seeing such nefarious places like Gale and Martin benefiting from such.
     
  6. Jun 1, 2018
  7. ShadyFei

    ShadyFei Full Member

    Occupation:
    Academic Charlatan and Cat Herder
    Location:
    Canada - West Coast
    There is no excuse for a nanny state.
     
  8. Jun 1, 2018
  9. azzagirt

    azzagirt Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Retail, not any more.. I am now a call centre oper
    Location:
    Great Southern Land.
    Can someone please start a change.org petition against the Australian governments harsh move.
    This is just not right. Australia is NOT the lucky country it used to be when we have wanna be dictators at the helm. Turnbull is an elitist wanker that has no idea how real people want to enjoy spending their worked for cash. Who tells him what he can and cannot afford.
    Okay censor the welfare recipients somehow but leave others alone to enjoy what they enjoy. He's just a greedy bastard, yet allows Bishop to give away all this foreign aid to anyone who asks for it and we can't look after our own homeless, elderly and less fortunate.
    Don't get me started on climate change and how much supposedly goes to that.
     
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  10. Jun 1, 2018
  11. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    As mentioned a number of times here, the Australia government is taking steps to contact both casinos AND affiliates by telling them that they are violating their regs. Ill thought out and it does NOTHING at all to protect ANY gambler. Gamblers will always gamble, and now they are heading over to nefarious operators like these rogues.

    These crap holes are the ones that are profiting, and gamblers have no protections whatsoever. Rogue casinos like these prey on the problem and compulsive gambler. There is no safety-net for gamblers who have self excluded elsewhere. Check out casinos like Bronze Casinos that admit that they accept problem gamblers. The Australian goverment folks need to face reality and stop being so protectionistic.
     
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  12. Jun 1, 2018
  13. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Nanny States are created by its people and political environment. Australia and the UK are two prime examples.
     
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  14. Jun 1, 2018
  15. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

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    We should write to the paper or like you suggested have a petition we like to have a play on slots especially after work it relaxes some people and we as people should be able to choose how and what we can spend our money on.

    The money that we work for!!
     
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  16. Jun 1, 2018
  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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  18. Jun 1, 2018
  19. slotter999

    slotter999 Senior Member

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    UK
    @nikantw I may have misunderstood this but if the local laws do not allow online gambling then you are obliged to abide by local laws. For example this means that a UK citizen shouldn't be doing online gambling if they were physically located in Australia (assuming online gambling is banned in Oz).

    Is your complaint that Australians should be allowed to gamble online or that non-Australians should be allowed to gamble online when in Australia?
     
  20. Jun 1, 2018
  21. Supababe

    Supababe Opinions Meister! MM

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    Location:
    Lancashire, UK
    For info, Dan has posted the following this morning:

    "Due to their request we made some updates to our IP controller, to make sure no traffic from Australian IP's can deposit or play with us. You will still be able to withdraw from an Australian IP.
    Your account will remain open and you will be able to continue to play when you login from another location.

    We are sorry for the inconvenience."
     
  22. Jun 1, 2018
  23. ladyhawke

    ladyhawke Experienced Member

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    I may be second guessing @nikantw here, but I believe he could be referring to any country that bans online gambling.

    However, Australia does NOT ban online gambling for us Aussies. It is not illegal.

    What is illegal, and what our wonderful government has banned, are online casinos offering their services to us without a licence.

    And absolutely no mechanism exists to allow any casino to apply for an online licence.

    Catch-22. We can play. But there is nowhere to play.

    As C3PO once said...."Nous sommes perdu."
     
  24. Jun 1, 2018
  25. slotter999

    slotter999 Senior Member

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    @ladyhawke Thank you for the clarification. That is indeed a very strange situation. I'm guessing what was happening pre this change was non-Australian citizens were being allowed to gamble while being physically located in Australia which sounds like it was flouting the law.
     
  26. Jun 1, 2018
  27. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

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    That is why I moved to Germany ;)
     
  28. Jun 1, 2018
  29. halibaker

    halibaker AUS GAMBLERS ANNUAL- 1st place - 2015-2018 MM

    Occupation:
    I'm a mum and a dad, its hard work.
    Location:
    6110 Western Australia
    i travel to Sweden every time i want to have a punt

    Australian government are a bunch of total PUNTS themselves, can we ban them?
     
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  30. Jun 1, 2018
  31. nikantw

    nikantw Ueber Meister MM PABaccred

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    It's a complaint against all governments that act against public interest.

    We have to obey the law, but we also have to challenge the law when it is against the constitution, against the public interest.
    Gambling should be regulated, but people are best protected when they play at accredited casinos, there is no argument about that.

    So any government that doesn't let you play at accredited casinos clearly doesn't care about you. They don't serve you, they serve other interests.

    Am I being harsh? I don't think so. I am not talking about cases of a complete 100% ban on any gambling form, or about a regulatory overkill like UK.
    I am talking about countries that find "clever tricks" to essentially ban accredited casinos but let others that are practically robbing you with TRTP as low as 50%.
     
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  32. Jun 1, 2018
  33. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

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    I am with you lets ban the government :D

    That Malcolm Turd bull is a businessman and only out for himself :mad:
     
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  34. Jun 1, 2018
  35. mina1929

    mina1929 Senior Member

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    Not being harsh at all and absolutely right, beautiful country and the worst government, me and halibaker going to ban the government :lolup:
     
  36. Jun 1, 2018
  37. Gaz237

    Gaz237 Senior Member MM

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    chelmsford UK
    Dan (VS) has pretty much spelt it out, without actually say it.

    Australian accounts can remain open and they can withdraw to an Australian IP.

    He has said, they just cannot play from an Australian IP.

    Obviously he cannot say use a VPN to play, But more importantly he has not said you can't.
     
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  38. Jun 1, 2018
  39. osulle

    osulle Ueber Meister CAG mm4 mm1

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    I have no clue how things are run in Australia but it seems to me that banning online gambling only helps Australian landbased casinos. So the Government saying that they are trying to protect their citizens smacks of BS to me. They could go down the route of many European countries and tax it so that the people can benefit. Seems stupid to me to ban a lucrative tax revenue base. If they are doing this to protect Aussies then they should ban gambling across the board both online and land based. So banning the online gambling with the reasons that they have given is an insult to the Australian peoples intelligence in my opinion.
     
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