Gorilla gold warning

Sasukdcf

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Hi all

Just a warning in case anyone hasn’t yet noticed but gorilla gold sadly appears to have been gimped over the past few days...
This isn’t meant as a bitching post but game has totally changed at the exact same time as the version numbers have changed ( now seems to be on version 7 or 8 depending where you play with an RTP of 96 or 97 again depending on site..

this game was mental when it first came out,

it literally was almost 2 easy to get the feature however don’t worry folks they have fixed it now !!!!!!

any board with 3 diamonds on never has a win anymore and cascades that often used to drop a diamond on first drop, now it appears that if you have diamonds on the board it won’t think about dropping them til drop 2..:

the wheel which displays odds of 1/2

well I never trusted that to start with but feels like it’s got harder too but that said with so few features now it’s hard to tell but my last couple of GG spin features have had to come from gambling spins to the top which I always do as the normal feature spins are awful as I’m sure has already been discussed elsewhere..:

anyways was just a quick heads up in the hope it may just save one person doing their nuts thinking they are on a bad run...

Shame as was loving that game but looks like it’s just one to dip in and out of again now like most of the others..:
 

chiya

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I guess someone's been wearing their tin foil hat as of late ..

Do we really need another thread about people's conspiracy theories against a certain slot?
 

bamberfishcake

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Not saying i think games are gimped or not but how long has this game been out and we are on version 7 or 8?

What am i missing?

I would have thought you get one version and thats it.

Probably a question thats been answered in the ask anything thread but anybody know the reason for so many different 'versions' of a game?

Ah, i have just spotted Harry.....why so many versions?
 

Harry_BKK

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Not saying i think games are gimped or not but how long has this game been out and we are on version 7 or 8?

What am i missing?

I would have thought you get one version and thats it.

Probably a question thats been answered in the ask anything thread but anybody know the reason for so many different 'versions' of a game?

Ah, i have just spotted Harry.....why so many versions?

Updates for cosmetic changes. Each change has a full audit and paper trail.

Any change in math model, RTP etc would need a full re-certification. You don't do that in a week, nor do you keep multiple certified versions to activate should players win too much in the first two days.
 

Harry_BKK

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Not saying i think games are gimped or not but how long has this game been out and we are on version 7 or 8?

What am i missing?

I would have thought you get one version and thats it.

Probably a question thats been answered in the ask anything thread but anybody know the reason for so many different 'versions' of a game?

Ah, i have just spotted Harry.....why so many versions?

Here NetEnt change docs - 3 in April alone.

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Harry_BKK

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Not saying i think games are gimped or not but how long has this game been out and we are on version 7 or 8?

What am i missing?

I would have thought you get one version and thats it.

Probably a question thats been answered in the ask anything thread but anybody know the reason for so many different 'versions' of a game?

Ah, i have just spotted Harry.....why so many versions?

Here an example - Victorious is on version 188!!!

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snorky510238

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You can totally change the way a game plays without changing the rtp. That wouldn’t need to be certified. You have to be pretty naive if you think that sort of thing doesn’t happen.
 

bamberfishcake

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Updates for cosmetic changes. Each change has a full audit and paper trail.

Any change in math model, RTP etc would need a full re-certification. You don't do that in a week, nor do you keep multiple certified versions to activate should players win too much in the first two days.

Thanks Harry.

I guess new devices, software and browser updates play a part in updates on games also.
 

Sasukdcf

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I was about to say the same thing snorky...

Seriously if people think that they cannot make changes to a game that affects how it plays then you really are naive...

This wasn’t supposed to be a conspiracy type post more a helpful warning,

but jeez, smell the coffee guys if you think they only make visual changes....

In fact I had a PAB open as a new game ( vault of Anubis ) blatently had an issue..: it would not and it would appear could not drop the feature ( its a pre determined game like jamming )

I raised this with the casino

the game was updated the following day and the feature was then able to be hit ( although it was shite !!!!)

I did open a PAB on it as was miffed it was broken initially however proving it is another story....
 

Harry_BKK

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You can totally change the way a game plays without changing the rtp. That wouldn’t need to be certified. You have to be pretty naive if you think that sort of thing doesn’t happen.

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Harry_BKK

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I was about to say the same thing snorky...

Seriously if people think that they cannot make changes to a game that affects how it plays then you really are naive...

This wasn’t supposed to be a conspiracy type post more a helpful warning,

but jeez, smell the coffee guys if you think they only make visual changes....

In fact I had a PAB open as a new game ( vault of Anubis ) blatently had an issue..: it would not and it would appear could not drop the feature ( its a pre determined game like jamming )

I raised this with the casino

the game was updated the following day and the feature was then able to be hit ( although it was shite !!!!)

I did open a PAB on it as was miffed it was broken initially however proving it is another story....

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Sasukdcf

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well to be fair i played that games for the first time last week, got the bonus round in 4th spin :eek: paid 250x
played another 20 spins after that then moved on,
might try it again tonight :)

nice, I had 3 or 4 decent hits, initially Including a 900x and although went upto 10 features without getting the gorilla spins, it wasn’t so bad as hitting the feature was surprisingly easy...

I still had losing sessions but the gameplay was great... now it’s just like playing 4 dead megaways slots simultaneously
 

chiya

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What would the casino/game dev gain by changing the game in such a way that it no longer bonuses frequently if they retained RTP with the change? It would make zero difference so I question your logic that developers change games but not their RTP.
 

Sasukdcf

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Personally I don’t believe that they don’t change RTP so the logic would be it was paying out too much, but that wasn’t the point of the post, if it stops one person chasing it, hoping it will play like it was a week ago then it was worth posting....

A few months ago on BGO I got a refund from a game I had played that “ wasn’t performing to expected levels “

I didn’t ask for it, it just arrived in my balance with a message confirming why...

The game was still on there subsequently and I feel sure they didn’t get it changed and retested within 24 hours! So how does that work if they can’t alter stuff
#justsaying
 

EkJR

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Got the 20 Gorilla super spins this morning and it gave me ONE idol, ONE!!! In 20 spins and paid about 32X. Absolutely crap. The game rinsed a couple of hundred from me very quickly.
 

Cardio1979

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Game was shit when it came out and still is. I am salty because it's probably one of the worst slots I've played this year. Hundreds of euro's lost with nothing to show for lol.
 

Sasukdcf

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Yes I’ve had 25 fail to get to level 2 but then I have had 15 get to level 4 so I think that’s just bad luck and down to the volatility of the game...

I did get 15 spins today that paid 100x it’s just how it plays as a whole thats def changed
I’ve also noticed more base wins hits which maybe offsets the lack of features and keeps Rtp the same prehaps... who knows
 
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