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Goodbye WMS Slots?

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by Tropicana50, Mar 8, 2015.

    Mar 8, 2015
  1. Tropicana50

    Tropicana50 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    England
    Once upon a time when Jackpot Party was around they had a sub-selection of slots that I used to enjoy that included..

    MOJO RISING
    [​IMG]

    MAYAN SUN
    [​IMG]

    FAIRYS FORTUNE
    [​IMG]

    RAWHIDE
    [​IMG]

    JOHN WAYNE
    [​IMG]

    There were a bunch of others too, and they seem to of vanished from the world of WMS and I used to love playing them. Does any casino Rep that has WMS titles know if these games are possible to get added to the selection? I am currently unable to find them anywhere online (unless someone else knows of a place?) :confused:

    - T
     
  2. Mar 8, 2015
  3. Nate

    Nate Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    I know that some of the Slots JPP used to have were Konami Slots (Raw Hide, Jumpin' Jalapenos etc). AFAIK, Konami Slots are hard to come by. They don't even offer Free Play Slots to any Casinos but I believe Moneygaming has a small selection of them for real. I can't say whether they include the ones you mentioned whether they be WMS or Konami.

    Nate
     
  4. Mar 8, 2015
  5. JGslots

    JGslots Senior Member PABinit webmeister

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    John Wayne was 100% pulled due to licensing issues. They still have it in the Wyn casino in Vegas tho :D
     
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  7. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    I approached this with a WMS rep last year at G2E and his response was that when Scientific Games made the decision to ditch the B2C operation Jackpot Party and licence the games out, they would implement a 3rd Party Release "roadmap" meaning they would all get released eventually but gradually over an unspecified period.

    Whether Rawhide and the other Konami slots are included in this or whether Konami have their own plans was not clear because I seem to remember it was an exclusive agreement to develop the games for use on Jackpot Party only at the time.
     
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  9. ianbeale

    ianbeale Dormant account PABnonaccred

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    Location:
    uk
    I have the same fond memories.

    Although it was just a clone of Black Knight, I liked Gusher too.

    I havent found anywhere with the ones you have listed and I dont remember John Wayne :(

    Slots Magic has probably the best range I have seen online but none of those yet again.
     
  10. Mar 8, 2015
  11. Tropicana50

    Tropicana50 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    England
    Very helpful Simmo, thanks.

    Hopefully in the future they will bring some of them out. Mojo Rising was the wife's favourite machine and I used to love that John Wayne one. By the sounds of other posters I may be out of luck though!

    - T
     
  12. Mar 8, 2015
  13. cheetahwind

    cheetahwind Dormant account

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    Location:
    Iowa
    Well I can say even though this might totally relate with the online selection.

    It would seem as if when Scientific Gaming took over WMS. They also took out the extremely volatile slots as well. I saw some of there newer games in there fancy cabinet. To only be reminded of Bally like pay outs. Even 5 of a kind top paying symbol wasn't a spectacular win. I loved the new G plus series they had come out with. The 50 lines with some huge winning potential. These new 40 credit bet with 80 lines of play. Just pay absolute rubbish compared to what they had come out with in the past.

    I really hope WMS isn't going backwards in innovation. I really would love to see the company continue going forward. Yet after playing those 2 new titles, including the total rip off of OMG Kittens, the "new" game OMG Puppies. I get the feeling the innovation may have been lost in the sale.
     
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  15. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Judging from what I have seen at the past two trade shows I'd say that's not the case, certainly as far as land slots go. Plus I met the WMS Interactive people and there are still quite a few of them...all still working as "WMS". I think it's a pretty safe bet that Sci Games bought WMS because they are a market leader as a result of being so innovative.

    What with the US gradually developing an appetite for their games online as well, I can only see it getting better.
     
  16. Mar 9, 2015
  17. ianbeale

    ianbeale Dormant account PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    uk
    Hi Mate,

    Just a quick update,

    I have logged back into my William Hill Vegas account after a long period away and they have some WMS slots that I have never seen before, Hercules, Valiant Knight amongst others, they both seem to be takes on the Colossal Reels series but might be worth a look.

    You have to go through all the slots to see which are WMS as it is not overly obvious. To be fair they have LOADS of slots that I have never seen anywhere else and many exclusives. I will be sure to try some of them out shortly.

    Enjoy :)
     
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  19. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

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    rawhide is actually in venues in aus aristocrat or konami branded same game same symbols different name so it might end up where the aristocrat or konami slots do
     
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  21. cheetahwind

    cheetahwind Dormant account

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    Wind Blade Maker
    Location:
    Iowa
    I hope your right, like I said this is a small observation based on the 3 newer games I had seen in the newer cabinets was all. Who knows the next big thing might be in the works and I hope so. I'm a big fan of WMS, just was disappointed in the pay out scale of the 2 games with the 80 pay lines, and the OMG Puppies was obviously a total knock off of OMG Kittens.

    I'll give some examples of what I experienced.

    Snow Panther and Ruby Star:

    80 lines of play for a 40 cent bet
    6 of a kind woman (top paying symbol) on a 4 pay lines, paid out $12.00, you read that right $12.00
    Then the two "progressive" top pay out were capped at $50.00 for the minor and $100.00 for the major. Granted that means that these will hit more often than before, but at the same time will also result in "less" excitement in mind for hitting a major progressive. They should have at least offered a level about the major, with some huge pay out compared to just double what the minor was.

    Hot Hot Penny 2:

    Again it would seem as if the pay outs were again dumbed down, lions just aren't paying what I'm used to seeing for a top pay symbol. Plus I sort of felt the picking your free spin bonus added to the thrill. Versus the new the game spins for the amount of free spins offered.

    OMG Puppies:

    What can I say, they saw the success of OMG Kittens, and decided to go after the dog lovers to boot, yet didn't change most of the original game except for change the symbols to puppy related symbols.

    I just hope something pops out at me in the future.

    As for the games you are looking for in the post here, I do some of them still in the original jackpot party facebook game. Which tells me they haven't done away with them all. I think just the places offering these slots don't see these as offering huge potential is all I can think of.

     
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  22. Mar 9, 2015
  23. SinCity

    SinCity Newbie member

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    I miss JPP. I loved the games and the chat, used to like the chat part a lot and also the chance of the progressive (only ever managed 1 star)

    What happened to LUX? and Fortunes of the Caribbean?
     
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  24. Mar 9, 2015
  25. kou187

    kou187 Senior Member MM

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    I'm glad people have finally pointed out what a brilliant casino jackpotpartry was to play at. It was unique with its exclusive wms slots and progressives and chat feature. It made you not want to play any were else as there was a lot more going on at jackpotparty then there was as other online casinos at the time like 10 X wagering deposit bonuses which were very regular aswell. And to this date the only site that has tried to replicate its success is a site called spinstars. But this site does not come close as the only similarity it has to jackpotparty is its random progressives when you spin on there slots, However the progressive feature is very glitchy and unreliable and nothing like the jackpotparty progressive. But hey at least someone tried to replicate that sites success. I am also dumbfounded that no other casinos have seen how popular the whole progressive and chat feature casino would be as people obviously loved it and are crying out for another site like jackpotparty. In regards to the slots being wiped of the face of the earth i think jackpotparty had a low rtp payout on all there slots as a certain amount of your r.t.p was wrapped up in the progressive if you hit it or not. There fore now that wms slots are all over the internet they now have a r.t.p which is higher than that of the jackpotparty slots. So i think they have to be re programmed with the up to date r.t.p and not the old jackpotparty r.t.p. I miss playing fortunes of the carribean (bruce lee clone) and vampires embrace and also the two life of luxury slots. If any site can launch these slots they will see a huge profit and rise in player count on there sites. No doubt in my mind. :)

    If you ask me though i think these slots you posted will just be old memories as it seems like these days w.m.s are realising new slots and not old releases :(
     
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