Good&Bad Providers when trying to win at slots.

[Kroffe]

As an addition to Bamberfishcakes wonderful thread wich can be found: HERE <---
This is a list of providers that offers different rtp versions for the casinos.
So what is rtp then? Rtp stands for "Return to player" and in short, it means a lower rtp% will return less money to the players, giving the players less playtime, and the casinos more money.
And since most people playing slots probably enjoy getting money back from the slots from time to time, the sensible thing is to always make sure you are playing with the highest posstible rtp.

If you dont want to check each time you are playing what rtp-version the site is running these are the main providers you should avoid.
Its always best to check before playing to see that you are playing the highest version available to you.

NetEnt - some of their slots
Play n'Go - ALL
Thunderkick - some of their slots
Nolimit city - ALL
Red Tiger - ALL
Pragmatic - ALL
Novomatic - ALL
Igt - ALL
PariPlay - ALL
Betsoft - ALL
SG Digital - some of their slots

Alot of casinos are lowering the rtp on their slots these days, and many of them do this without giving any notice.
So vote with your wallet, and avoid playing the above providers at any site that offers anything less than the highest rtp-version on them.
This is of course the best option for you as a player, and also a way to encourage the sites that use the highest rtp-versions to keep doing so.

 

[dionysus]

yeeessss but no
I mean, I'll still likely play at casino A which has lower rtp than casino B if casino A has good rewards, pays timely and is solid as a rock VS Casino B which might be less than stellar in other regards

 

[Kroffe]

yeeessss but no
I mean, I'll still likely play at casino A which has lower rtp than casino B if casino A has good rewards, pays timely and is solid as a rock VS Casino B which might be less than stellar in other regards

There are plenty of casinos offering good rewards and quick cash-outs that run the highest rtp settings for their slots.
Atleast on the Swedish market. (not so much bonuses tho)

 

[Harry_BKK]

Good idea Kroffe!

Just to have it factually correct for the current state:

NetEnt - some games
SG Digital - some games
Thunderkick - some games

 

[Kroffe]

Good idea Kroffe!

Just to have it factually correct for the current state:

NetEnt - some games
SG Digital - some games
Thunderkick - some games

Updated.
But some or all does not really matter since you still have to check everytime that they have not changed since the last time. Those who have different versions on some of their slots now will probably add different versions on more of their slots.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Updated.
But some or all does not really matter since you still have to check everytime that they have not changed since the last time. Those who have different versions on some of their slots now will probably add different versions on more of their slots.

Yeah, NetEnt is preparing a much larger batch for Q3 than just the current 5 slots to receive the multiple RTP "upgrade".

 

[sufferinsilence]

Thunderkick has variable RTP too? Didn't know that.

 

[dionysus]

Thunderkick has variable RTP too? Didn't know that.

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[Harry_BKK]

Thunderkick has variable RTP too? Didn't know that.

Yeah, currently only on Pink Elephants 2.

I received today a tip that they are doing it or plan to start doing it. Checked VS and only found PE2, came to CM and @CasinoNinja had already posted it.

 

[Davey86]

Probably the new norm now with the rtp settings since I joined here it’s been talked about a lot eventually all casinos may take up the rewards of lower rtps

 

[sufferinsilence]

Official - Videoslots presents Battle of Slots!

Yeah, currently only on Pink Elephants 2.

I received today a tip that they are doing it or plan to start doing it. Checked VS and only found PE2, came to CM and @CasinoNinja had already posted it.

Thanks guys. I don't follow that topic because I can't play at VS

 

[nikantw]

I am telling you guys, Roguebet* is looking better and better!


*Once accredited casino with almost all games at high RTP, but ended at rogue pit when I found a rogue term they have.

 

[irish-ranger]

Don’t know if these will be of any help, from fruity Casa and 21casino WHG
95.71% on both sites

 

[Kroffe]

Don’t know if these will be of any help, from fruity Casa and 21casino WHGView attachment 131195View attachment 131196
95.71% on both sites

95.71 is the "standard" or highest whatever you want to call it, rtp for Piggy riches megaways.
Most of red tigers latest releases seem to be released at 95.7%

 

[incrediblestuff]

Side note that may have already been posted: @Unibet and sisters they're rocking the heightened RTP versions of 5 classic Netent slots, dunno how long that will go on but they're also doing related comps/tourneys iirc.

If i had money to spent and i wanted to play Netent i'd know where to go

 

[Kroffe]

Side note that may have already been posted: @Unibet and sisters they're rocking the heightened RTP versions of 5 classic Netent slots, dunno how long that will go on but they're also doing related comps/tourneys iirc.

If i had money to spent and i wanted to play Netent i'd know where to go

Yeah, i was thinking about mentioning that, but i didnt want the post to look like i was advertising a site/group.
Ive tried them out a bit last week and had some decent hits on fruit shop and GnR.

 

[EkJR]

Yeah, NetEnt is preparing a much larger batch for Q3 than just the current 5 slots to receive the multiple RTP "upgrade".

What SG has lower RTP availability?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Anything with an SG badge on it isn’t worth playing anyway!!

 

[incrediblestuff]

Hmm, i still love SG, just don't play them as much (aside from budget, the classics still feel 'off' to me in the HTML5 versions) but i do try each game they release and i think in the last 2 years at least 3 times i opened one of their new releases for the first time and hit a 1000x plus on my first bonus!

I remember Rhino Megaways, Michael Jackson and this one delivering:

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Have you ever tried buying lottery tickets?
With luck like that I think you’d only need one!!!

 

[incrediblestuff]

Trust me, i've tried

And that's just a small sample of my sparse winnings, i think i would do great if i actually had a bankroll, but i'm stuck to very small, sporadic deposits - and have been for years - so this is one of the rare miracle hits i got

I just found, during my 2 decade long 'gambling career', that trying the new games as soon as they launch, seems to work well overall: perhaps it's the high volume of spins at launch that increases the chances?

 

[Harry_BKK]

What SG has lower RTP availability?

Quite a few Bally & Barcrest games have 94% for bets below 2 credits but change to 96% when above 2 credits. This is optional for operators.

 

[Nate]

Nothing will change. Providers and casinos are jointly in it to skin players faster.

They claimed :

1. Bonuses were costing too much and reduced them.

2. The regulatory bodies were taxing too much and exited markets.

3. Affiliates were not bringing enough players and stole all their commissions or reduced them significantly.

4. Slot RTPs needed to be reduced and skimmed their players..

As far as I can see... the goal here is to milk everyone at any cost. Some places initiated ALL those changes and yet they will find another avenue to skim.

What about Curacao casinos? They don't have the 'Regulatory' costs or SOW headaches that Maltese or UKGC licenced places do... yet they have opted to run lower RTP versions.

Curacao casinos running on Direx NV have the option to offer the highest percentage. From the evidence I have seen, its NOT Softswiss offering a general RTP ... they make the choice.

At this moment who has their games on the highest RTP across the board?

Twin Casino
Rizk Casino
The Bettsson Group?..?

Nate

 

[Kroffe]

Nothing will change. Providers and casinos are jointly in it to skin players faster.

They claimed :

1. Bonuses were costing too much and reduced them.

2. The regulatory bodies were taxing too much and exited markets.

3. Affiliates were not bringing enough players and stole all their commissions or reduced them significantly.

4. Slot RTPs needed to be reduced and skimmed their players..

As far as I can see... the goal here is to milk everyone at any cost. Some places initiated ALL those changes and yet they will find another avenue to skim.

What about Curacao casinos? They don't have the 'Regulatory' costs or SOW headaches that Maltese or UKGC licenced places do... yet they have opted to run lower RTP versions.

Curacao casinos running on Direx NV have the option to offer the highest percentage. From the evidence I have seen, its NOT Softswiss offering a general RTP ... they make the choice.

At this moment who has their games on the highest RTP across the board?

Twin Casino
Rizk Casino
The Bettsson Group?..?

Nate

Unibet group, vera&john group, expekt (i think been a while since checked)
Think the come on group offers highest, also been a while since i checked.
Mr green maybe?

Theres no shortage of options to play the highest rtp-versions on the Swedish market atleast, i dont know how it looks on the uk market.

Edit: That said, i do agree with what you are saying.
Everything gets reduced/worse, and somehow they still need to reduce the rtp to be able to stay in business.
I think the insanse amount of casinos is to blame tho.
Theres close to 100 groups with a license on the swedish market, wich probably means its 300-400 casinos since some of them have like 10+ sites under their name.

Nobody needs that many sites to choose from.
And it cant be that horribly hard to make money on the Swedish market since new sites join the Swedish market pretty often.

A purge would be good for both casinos and players.

 

[Kroffe]

Shameless Bump (bringing up my post)

But i might aswell add something while im here.
So here are some slots with really good rtp.
I did not write the descriptions for the slots, just copy&paste, so if anyone disagrees with something in the descriptions i will have to pull a Trump on this one and take zero responsibilty.

Mega Joker – up to 99% RTP
Mega Joker is a NetEnt classic slot with three reels and fruity symbols. Game’s RTP actually changes depending on the stake level you play at and to reach the best return, you’ll need to bet 10 coins. Additionally, there is a slight skill element to this game as you need to know when to collect the winnings from the Supermeter.

Jackpot 6000 – up to 98.8% RTP
Jackpot 6000 is another classic slot from NetEnt, quite similar to Mega Joker. You’ll also need to play this game at the maximum bet of 10 coins and study the Supermeter strategy a bit to reach the best possible returns. This is a good game for those players who like to be involved and actually able to influence their result at least to some extent.

Chess Mate - -98.7%
Chess Mate is a game from a relatively unknown developer, Multi Slot. This colorful and nicely animated slot offers 15 paylines, a couple of bonus features (including free spins with the win multiplier up to 9x), and very high RTP of 98.7%. Although the game isn’t available at many online casinos, it is definitely worth a try if you come across it.

1429 Uncharted Seas – 98.6%
Developed by Thunderkick, the 1429 Uncharted Seas slot is one of the older games from this developer. While this slot doesn’t bring anything spectacular in terms of graphics or features, its very high RTP of 98.6% makes it worth a few spins.

Monopoly on the Money – up to 98.1%
Developed by Barcrest, Monopoly on the Money is a slot themed after one of the most popular board games ever invented. In the base game, this slot has RTP of just 94% but it is the Big Bet mode where you should be looking as playing in this mode can give you RTP as high as 98.1%.

Bloodsuckers – 98%
The Bloodsuckers slot is another game developed by NetEnt but unlike the ones mentioned previously, this is actually a proper video slot with two different bonuses, 25 paylines across 5 reels, and very low volatility. If you’re into vampire-themed slots as it is, Bloodsuckers is well worth your time with its outstanding RTP of 98%.

Starmania – 97.87%
Created by NextGen Gaming, Starmania will definitely remind you of another well-known game that we don’t even need to mention if you’d ever taken free spins at an online casino. Set among the stats with colorful symbols on the reels, this 10-payline slot pays both ways and features RTP of 97.87%.

Kings of Chicago – 97.8%
We’re coming back to NetEnt and their Kings of Chicago slot, a game entirely based on poker. Instead of classic win combinations, you’ll get paid for making poker hands here, such as trips, straights, flushes, full houses, and quads. If you love poker and casino gambling, this game is a perfect combo for you, especially with its very high RTP of 97.8%.


Big Bad Wolf – 97.4%
Barely making the list of top 10 slot with the best RTP is Quickspin’s Big Bad Wolf. Based on a well-known fairytale, this game can be quite exciting with little pigs turning into wilds and symbols cascading on the reels. Of course, with high RTP of 97.4% and low volatility, this game is a good choice if you’re looking to kill some time without doing the same to your bankroll.