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golden palace and microgaming

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by scrollock, Feb 7, 2006.

    Feb 7, 2006
  1. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    i was reading the other day that the golden palace group was on the microgaming platform and that they were kicked off it.

    i wasnt aware of this, what was the story ?
     
  2. Feb 7, 2006
  3. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    It's all in the archives at the other site and possibly here, but essentially there was a major confrontation between players and Golden Palace back in early 2000 over disqualified bonuses and lockouts. Many players were prejudiced - some of them like Trader are still around - often for large sums of money. The head of security was a particularly arrogant and unpleasant individual in his dealings with the players.

    The row escalated and a loosely organised player's body eventuated which made life tough for GP and was in turn subjected to some pretty strange but unproved stuff. Player researchers dug up some public documents showing that the people behind GP had paid record fines for telemarketing fraud in Canada. There was a lot of general nastiness out there, and it turned into probably the biggest player-operator scrap ever.

    Microgaming was inevitably dragged into the fray and learned quite a lot from it which benefits its players today, I believe. I don't know if this was the catalyst for a GP move to another software or not, but they certainly did change a little later on amid much speculation. Later still they ended up with another change to Playtech.

    To this day GP has never redressed the wronged players, which is why there is still a lot of bitterness abroad whenever Golden Palace is mentioned, because the same folks are believed to be behind the scenes there. GP is undoubtedly successful despite this, but God only knows how much more successful they might have been without this albatross hanging around their neck.
     
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  4. Feb 7, 2006
  5. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    :):):):)

    How many weeks have you got?

    Bryan, Ted, Jetset or Mary can best give a quick rundown on this one.

    EDIT: Jetset beat me to it.
     
  6. Feb 8, 2006
  7. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Caruso,

    Here's your chance to beat Jetset. I know there was a row between MG and the Sunny Group(Mapau,Fortune etc) which led to the latter's migration to Playtech. Both sides claimed the other party was wrong. I was new to online gaming then and was confused. Can you shed some light on this?
     
  8. Feb 8, 2006
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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  10. Feb 8, 2006
  11. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Thanks, Bryan. I read the whole story. The story on alleged bonus abuse by Danish players was also interesting.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2006
  13. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming!

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    Jetset, really informative post and background concerning the MGS/GoldenPalace split. Needless to say my opinion of Golden Palace hasn't improved as a result.

    Also interesting read about the Sunny Group - this the same group that entered "their own" Gambling Hall of Fame recently.

    :lolup:
     
  14. Feb 8, 2006
  15. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I did some serious research at WOL a while back, as I was intending to do a full Golden Palace write up. I gave up, as the information is desperately straggley. However, I did collect every possible thread on the subject.

    Here's a small handful:

    1) James out $8000.

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    2) Golden Palace's official statement: "we reserve the right...etc etc" and Ted's comments.

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    3) Golden Palace update posted by Ted.

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    4) A must read! Golden Palace offer to donate winnings to charity! - see below. Also, Ted's follow up comments.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    5)

     
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  16. Feb 8, 2006
  17. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    I'd been meaning to say for a while, Webcaz: nice rogue list. A man after my own heart. :)

    http://www.onlinecasinoreviewer.com/roguecasinos.htm

    You and Bryan may be just about the only two casino webmasters out their who don't advertise for Golden Palace, and I am sure you're the only one who actually lists them as "rogue".

    Nice one. Stand up and be counted.
     
  18. Feb 8, 2006
  19. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

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    Thanks for this info! That does explain to me why on earth GP would buy useless crap on ebay (partially eaten cheese sandwich, kidney stone, baby's name, etc., etc. ad nauseum). Very effective advertising and zero risk of fraud charges (the baby might disagree).
     
  20. Feb 9, 2006
  21. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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  22. Feb 9, 2006
  23. caruso

    caruso Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    1) Has Thelawnet been paid his £600? No update.

    2) Jimbo paid after five months, accusation of "fraudulent gang".

    3) Phew. One player, out of many, didn't report eventually being paid. He made only one post. Memorable quote:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/66548-post35.html

    ...and Golden Palace sailed very close to the wind here:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/65246-post1.html

    ...but they paid, having apparently changed their minds.


    4) Mercifully short. One player, under "investiagtion" but paid after complaining. General notes made that complaints at Golden palace were escalating. (around June 2005).

    5) Player paid after much documentation hassle.

    I assume all the "fraud" stuff is casino gobbledegook for bonus players. Maybe Golden Palace decided to try a new tactic to clamp down on them, realized the level of bad publicity they were receiving and changed their minds? These threads all appeared around the same time, and there's been little recent noise.

    It certainly all makes nasty reading. Again I will say: it appears that everyone was paid in the end, so I don't see that they should be lumped together with The Evil Fifteen. That doesn't mean that the potential dangers of playing Golden Palace, in light of all that, should be anything less than forcefully stressed.

    Thanks for putting all that together neatly in one post - if nothing else, it helps a lot with my Golden Palace archives. :)
     
  24. Feb 9, 2006
  25. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

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    caruso if you look around the other portals at the same time you should find a load more.

    more or less the same story of everyone being in a fraid ring which encompassed the globe.
     
  26. Feb 10, 2006
  27. paul1

    paul1 Dormant account


    Good point, and good post, Jetset. :thumbsup:
     
  28. Feb 10, 2006
  29. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Egads! The imagery!
     

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