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Gold series perfect play BJ SUX!

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by silcnlayc, Dec 3, 2006.

    Dec 3, 2006
  1. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    IT Director of Operations
    Left Hungary
    There has been a discussion on how to play bj online and I claim that you cannot play bj as you would in real life. This is a first for me in a very long time for I said before, when I get to 30 dollars, I play bj but totally opposite of how I would play in real life and have had many sessions where I would continue to play slots after dabbling and getting my stash up enough to feel comfortable in playing the slots (50-100 dollars) again.

    Well, as I said, this is the first time in a very long time (YEARS) I busted out from the get go ...I played PERFECT play and it SUX. I will NEVER play this way again, but wanted to prove to myself and show others, it just can't be done and get ahead.

    I feel absolutely stupid and am so pissed at myself for doing this because I KNOW you can't win playing perfect play online. Now, I have to make another deposit because I was gullible enough to think that it has changed
    from all the chatter on here and it hasn't. All the gold series bj (single and multi hand) are money suckers. PERFECT PLAY online DOESN'T WORK!

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    I would have split these if I was playing my way.....

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    I would have taken a hit on this my way.... and maybe I would have not busted out so quickly if I played the way I usually do...ahhh well...live and learn.. :oops: :rolleyes: :eek:

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    I know what will be said..I haven't played enough hands to PROVE this. Well, I have played this game online since the inception of online gambling...so yes, I have played enough to know it will not work the way it would in a real casino.

    And to all the naysayers...all I have to say is...keep feeding them casinos all you want just for ONE good run....I will have many more good runs my way...it has kept me in play mode in slots for a very long time...and maybe thats the difference between a bj player going for the "big one" and a player playing bj for a bankroll to play slots...I achieve mine each and every time...
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  3. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

    Planet Earth
    In the past 6 months, I've gained well over $10,000 playing BJ at Microgaming casinos. Most of this was large bets on ACBJ without autoplay, but I also have used autoplay for many hands. I played with near optimal strategy and gained signifcantly more than statistically expected. Note that I played single hand, rather than multi-hand.

    Showing a series of 21s is not enough to prove unfair play. The dealer is expected to get 21 17% of the time. It would be more convincing to list the number of 21s per ### hands, or the % of times the dealer gets a 21 when you have a 20.
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  5. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Keep thinking that backwards play is right for online :)

    Sure it may seem that way at times; but what about those times that it doesn't work?
  6. Dec 3, 2006
  7. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    North Carolina
    Just finished yesterday a run of roughly 1125 hands (actually a little less with doubles and splits) of blackjack and played perfect strategy. The run took me only an hour because of RTG's quickness.

    My result?

    A $75 profit on top of the bonus given.

    Do what's right for you ... but the math has been proven for years and years.
  8. Dec 3, 2006
  9. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

    If I was an online casino operator, I'd damn near wet myself over the prospect of having you as a customer.
  10. Dec 3, 2006
  11. tesla

    tesla Dormant account PABnoaccred2 PABnoaccred

    the world
    Oddly enough I've been having terrible runs since playing the new gold series BJ. At first I'm up a couple hundred and then after a little bit, the dealer pretty much goes on an endless winning streak until I bust. And worst of all, every time I play this pattern has happened. With the regular BJ series, the play felt normal and more random. And I've wagered millions of dollars in BJ. Could be just bad luck but its definitely got to be a freak event.
  12. Dec 3, 2006
  13. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    IT Director of Operations
    Left Hungary
    I was not trying to show if it is unfair play or how a dealer gets a series of bj, but the length of play during the short sessions I prefer. I hope I stated this to be understood..I am not out to make a killing on bj, just enough to feed my slots play and it can't be done doing perfect play...
    I do beleive the longer you play the gold series, the more you will lose for my investment has never made it through one session since they started the gold series. I will stick the the old bj games that actually improve my chances every time to go back to the slots.
    This I feel has become the norm.

    At this time I am up a few thousand so I guess you might have to wait a while longer before you count the pennies I give up .:D

    I have made in several short sessions close to $500 each and every time to go back to play the slots without busting out on bj that does keep the deposits to a minimum. It does feed the need...:thumbsup:
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  15. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    STILL At Leisure
    United Kingdom
    MG Blackjack.

    I made many experiments with MG Blackjack. One series was trying to see if the autoplay strategy table could be adjusted to improve the odds. It turned out that the Wizard found an error in them and a correction was issued. The tables for the Gold series also had an error when introduced.
    The tables also assume that play follows the random pattern indicated for a regular shoe shuffled each time.
    I have noticed streaks where the blackjack seems to play "10's short" and "10's rich" as would be expected for a non-shuffled shoe. A 10's short spell favours the dealer in making 20/21 from bad hands rather than busting, and players are not favoured playing strategy because they do not draw because the odds of a 10 are too great.
    I sometimes stand on a dealer 7 with a hand of 16 to 13 if I feel the dealer is not getting 10's, and this seems to lead to the dealer busting with the bust card that should have been mine :)

    I did a big experiment once with Vegas Strip set for 80,000 hands of Autoplay. What surpriesd me was the sheer lenth of the statistically abnormal run that followed, it lasted, well, 80,000 hands!:D During the experiment, my bankroll went UP! by 800 stake units. I have never repeated this, but it certainly got me thinking that something was not quite random enough with the game, but this time it went in my favour rather an equally long suck against me.

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