Global Player Software Scandal

[singledeck]

Hello, my enlish is not good, but i hope you will understand it: i speak only for the BJ game !i only want to inform players , that the new accredited casino Global Player has NOT an INDEPENDENT SOFTWARE - test or proof for their BJ Software. the casino software is NOT watched or proofed from extern firms or anyone ! they create their own software...
the software is NOT audited from anyone, that it is really fair...
no firm like PWC (at the most MG casinos) proof and test GP software for fairness- so , they can do what they want, or not ?
so think , what you want , but i have not played 10, 100 or laughing 1000 rounds- i have played millions of rounds and i am absoulutely sure (also like Gert Becker= a master of BJ in bavaria 1997 and 1994 is sure ), the software from GP in BJ Reno is a scandal. if you do not believe, try it out ! if you wager and bet like you do it in your fair land casino, you will be ruinated... quickly i play since 20 years in land casinos and i am very experienced player with much good regularly results . but GP have in my opinion not a fair software on the long run !! in Reno BJ. normally the player have an advantage in this game on the long run, not at GP ! i can remember, another forum poster have made the same bad experience, too - but i have to say generally as a sociology professor: if you want to be kid and robbed out , play online casinos ! ; we have tested more than 50 the last 3 years and have made in nearly all the same experiences: you will have fantastically results and pay out rates (by the way, this is also unnormal and unfair!) , if you wager and bet low. the pay out rate was for all casinos in low wager games (1-3 $) over 120 % crossover !!. also you will have unnormal good results at the fun modus- but for wagers and bets of $ 20 or higher each game (we have played enough for significant results ! ) the pay out rate is only 15-25 % crossover for all online casinos, we have tested !! this result speaks for itself, there are only a few exceptions, which have a fair software obviousely, some of them are in the accredited list , some not...
why should at ex. the BJ Master of bavaria have in more than 70 % of cases bad luck in high wager games and real important games, but "good luck" in more than 120 % in low wager games or unimportant games, if the software would be fair programmated in online casinos ?
its only our opinion, but we have really played millions of rounds at BJ single deck at MG or Reno in GP and our results are the proof fo us, that the software is programmed in the following way in very much casinos:
you will have great results at low wagers and unimportant games , you will have scandalous results for high wagers and bets an nearly all real important games, also on the long run - i am sure, some people can agree ....
singledeck

 

[polli123]

Global Player is fair!

Servus,

vielleicht hattest du einfach nur Pech? Ich halte nichts davon dieses Casino grundlos zu beschuldigen - hast du einen Beweis?

Gerade die eigene Software macht das Spiel dort interessant. Der Staat berwacht das GPC genau so wie alle anderen Casinos auf der Insel.

Mit nachdenklichem Gruss,
Polli

 

[caruso]

...we have really played millions of rounds at BJ single deck at MG or Reno in GP and our results are the proof fo us, that the software is programmed in the following way in very much casinos:
you will have great results at low wagers and unimportant games , you will have scandalous results for high wagers and bets an nearly all real important games, also on the long run - i am sure, some people can agree ....
singledeck

If you're looking for software gaurantees, look elsewhere - there are none in online casino land.

If you're looking for an edge at some Global Player blackjack game (which I infer is the case), forget it - there isn't one.

If you want a guaranteed fair game, stick to Reno.

 

[caruso]

Foreign language communications on an Englsh speaking forum is very bad etiquette indeed, Polli.

 

[global]

Global Player is a very reputable casino which is why we are acknowledged as such on the Casinomeister Board. We are proud to state that we are fair and unbiased. As you, of all people would know, we try to be flexible when customers experience bad luck streaks. During our casino operation, we have seen large runs of both good and bad luck that would exasperate any gambler or casino operator, but that is what gaming is all about, and without these seemingly freak events, the true definition of randomness would not be fulfilled.

We have many, very loyal players that are very happy with our games and our service, some having been with us since the beginning, September 1999.

We have always answered all of your e-mails personally, as we are here to help! However, there is only so much we can say to your comments regarding your bad luck and gameplay.

We have provided you with a game analysis from our Statistician and we always aim to be fair, giving you advice on your strategy. We cannot be any fairer than that.

As you will understand, we cannot give bonus every time someone loses in our Casino, as this would have only one result - we would have to close our doors.

We wish you Good Luck in the games room.

 

[pstnpstn]

I think global is fair.
this is my thought.
None can prove it. (who can prove?)

If a casino is not fair or biased,
players will notice it.
and this casino will be closed.

if you think casino where you played is not fair,
stop gambling there and go to another casino.

 

[gfkostas]

Once I was developing a gambling problem and global player were very professional with me when i emailed them requesting my account to be shuted down.I think they are top class but I have to say that their software graphics and sound is rubbish compare to other casinos.

 

[Bruce Hamilton]

...but I have to say that their software graphics and sound is rubbish compare to other casinos.

I agree 100%... After seeing both Playtech and Microgaming casinos prior, I found Global Player to be a very boring casino to play. I was almost happy to see my credit balance reach zero, so I could leave.

 

[singledeck]

Hello, i apologize again for the awful english from me

1. i speak only from the reno BJ game at Global Player, i do not speak from any other games !!
no one is forced to share our opinion or have to agree to our long time bad experiences in Reno BJ at GP for the real important and high wager games ... , but :

the explanations and informations from GPs manager in the forum doesnt change the fact:

GP software is NOT proofed, NOT audited; NOT approved, NOT tested, NOT watched independent , NOT REVIEWED

from ANY extern independent firm... .

why are they so afraid, do they have fear ?
why do they not let an independent extern proof firm in the GPs house, if the software is so superfair, like they assure us ?
why can they create and use their own software without any test from outside ?

other online casinos are proofed regularly from extern companies...

i do not spend my time for worst or lies, we have played millions of rounds for significant results, the proof is the GPs own statistics, but i am not the casino owner and cannot give you details of it....
if you have enough money , try it out... normally the house edge for this reno game is -0,15 % , if you do not make mistakes ; not so at GP on the long run

i speak from the long run, do not expect significant results, if you play a few hands !!!

try it and you will see another point: you will recognize in EVERY visit at reno BJ several very long winning or push series for the casino of 7,8,9 sometimes 15 hands ongoing ...
but the player can win in the average regular only 1,2 hands the most time ongoing, sometimes in a few cases 3 winning hands ongoing. you have the most time to play several tenthousand hands to get a long time winning series once,twice for the player

again, i am an very experineced BJ player and do not spend my time for nonsens or insulting or complaining without any reason, we have played millions of rounds in GP for significant results, the fact is: the pay out rate for the real important games is only a bad joke ...

2. but not all is bad in this casino, you will be paid with method neteller in a few hours !!
3. i have sent polli a private message with the same things in german, because he have thread in forum with german lang.
4. i have got today a mail from www.casial. net, seems to be a german forum, there GP seems to be on the blacklist..

interesting for me , to hear such things....

greetings

singledeck

 

[caruso]

GP software is NOT proofed, NOT audited; NOT approved, NOT tested, NOT watched independent , NOT REVIEWED

My friend, you are barking up an irrelevant tree.

What if a PWC stamp appeared on the GP site tomorrow, with the standard "BJ 97.5% payout" line? This would change what? You figure you could play with impunity? And anyway, assuming this WERE a relevant factor (which it isn't), you knew this before you played; if you're so upset about all this "no audit" malarky, why did you play in the first place?

The fact that Global Player BJ is "NOT proofed, NOT audited; NOT approved, NOT tested, NOT watched independent , NOT REVIEWED" does not make it any worse than any other. It's just another online blackjack game.

If you want to give meaningful input to the matter, post your results - W/L/P, as much detail as you have - and demonstrate WHAT is amiss.

Banging on about "no independent verification" could not be a greater waste of time.

BTW, I thought your "Reno" reference was to the place, not the Global Player BJ game, lol.

 

[Casinomeister]

My friend, you are barking up an irrelevant tree.

What if a PWC stamp appeared on the GP site tomorrow, with the standard "BJ 97.5% payout" line? This would change what? You figure you could play with impunity? And anyway, assuming this WERE a relevant factor (which it isn't), you knew this before you played; if you're so upset about all this "no audit" malarky, why did you play in the first place?

The fact that Global Player BJ is "NOT proofed, NOT audited; NOT approved, NOT tested, NOT watched independent , NOT REVIEWED" does not make it any worse than any other. It's just another online blackjack game.

If you want to give meaningful input to the matter, post your results - W/L/P, as much detail as you have - and demonstrate WHAT is amiss.

Banging on about "no independent verification" could not be a greater waste of time.

BTW, I thought your "Reno" reference was to the place, not the Global Player BJ game, lol.

I agree. When players tend to lose, they feel cheated and then the software sucks. If players win like hell, would they complain about faulty software?

Global Player has been around for several years, and it is one of the more transparent companies out there. In my opinion, the software has been tested by hard core BJ "players" since 2000 and that's good enough for me. They are listed here primarily by their history of fairness and excellent service. Sorry you've had a bad experience.

 

[singledeck]

"...no greater waste of time..." ?

Hello Caruso, i am not "so upset...", like you write
i can only agree, that a stamp from any extern firm would not be a really a proof or would probably not change anything, but:
i have stated my comments in a real, fair and factual way , i have said much times Not proofed, because of only one reason: my english is bad and so every one can understand , what i mean...
Caruso , i have also clear said: no one has to agree...its my opinion and my long time experience at GP and in the first thread,

if you think, there is "no greater way of wasting time", to read my threads or to think about the theme , why do you reply generally - or in such a matter ?

i want to send messages with respect to other members of this forum and i expect, that other users care about me and treat me in the same way...
my english is bad, but i am not a fool...

by the way, i did not know before i have played at GP, that they use their own created software, which is not proofed, like you write ..

and: Reno is one of the BJ games definetely at Global Player...

have you really ever played there ?
have you really read my 2 threads carefully, there are enough infos about w/p/l and the results
i am not the casino owner and can make public the GPs own statistics...
the/our results for millions of rounds are clear stated in the first 2 threads...

in hope, you will understand

singledeck

 

[singledeck]

CM: "...if players win like hell, would they complain...?""

sorry Casinomeister,
but i "complain" also about winnings, if they seem to be unnormal., like you can read in my very first thread:

i wrote: "...you will have fantastically results and pay out rates..." (by the way this is also unnormal and unfair)...
"...the pay out rate was in low wager games over 120 %..."

what i mean is: such results are also and identy unnormal/"unfair"- than the very bad results for high wager games

greetings

singledeck

 

[Casinomeister]

Hi Singledeck,

I think what Caruso meant as "no greater waste of time" was about the issue of a seal of approval or not - and was not directed at your entire post.

In some cases, seals are a moot issue. What is important are results. We could go on all day about seals and third parties checking stuff out, but in my opinion sometimes the best third party are good players who have played there for years. I brought on GP a little over three months ago after being contacted by members to bring them on board. I have not received any complaints about the fairness of their games; not while they've been members, nor the five years prior when they were not.

 

[singledeck]

GP and beer

Hi Singledeck,

I think what Caruso meant as "no greater waste of time" was about the issue of a seal of approval or not - and was not directed at your entire post.

In some cases, seals are a moot issue. What is important are results. We could go on all day about seals and third parties checking stuff out, but in my opinion sometimes the best third party are good players who have played there for years. I brought on GP a little over three months ago after being contacted by members to bring them on board. I have not received any complaints about the fairness of their games; not while they've been members, nor the five years prior when they were not.

1. Hi CM, i understand, but i can assure you , that i am a very experienced BJ player and it seems , that i am also an good one, i have regularly very good results in land based casino and nearly all other online casinos in singledeck BJ , at ex. boss media or mg casinos- i only wonder about the inacceptable bad results at GP for the real imortant /high wager games in nearly every visit on the long run ; i play since GP since years....,
but o.k. lets stop this discussion, normally GP has the widest range of BJ varietes of all online casinos and they do not make all bad, i have stated this point also clear before... but you should know, that after my first thread i have received a message from an (for me unknown portal) (mr.noise) www.casial-net, that this forum lists GP on a blacklist... this was interesting to hear...

2. by the way, you seem to love beer,
i love it also -
so, as a real bavarian, living near Munich , the ultimative capital of bavarian beer i have to tell you:

you seem to write sometimes: "weissenbier" , but this doesnt exist !

either its :
a) Weizen or long form Weizenbier (coming from the word Weizen= wheat in english)
or its:

b) Weibier(Weissbier) the name for the other colour than the Helles Bier and the "name" for the Hefeweizen or Hefeweibier (belonging to the ingredients at ex. yeast and the great froth, foam on the top

i do not want to be the Oberlehrer ("super teacher" , but sometimes i cannot act in another way, because my grandpa had its own brewery long time ago...

cheers

singledeck

 

[JohnGalt]

120% is such a ridiculous player edge that if it actually existed for bet sizes of $20 and under, GP would be out of business tomorrow. You would not need to play many hands to prove for sure that this was not a fair game. A few hundred hands certainly would be sufficient.

 

[buck]

Global player Reno BJ

I would totally disagree with the assessment.

Though I have found Reno BJ on GP streaky it has been the most profitable for me. This includes taking $20 to a $300 cash out over a period of a few days. My preference is actually the Reno game vs. Freaky Friday single deck. Though my wagers vary from $1 - $25, I will stop the session if I get more than 4 losing handles in roll.

I have often felt that this GP game was the best kept secret and maybe it is since my low betting units may give me some advantage, and my losing sessions have been large, when trying to recoup losses from other casinos.





My two cents.

Buck

 

[caruso]

Yeah, I didn't mean your post was a waste of time, just your apparent desire for "independent verification". That, in my opinion, is pointless.

have you really ever played there ? have you really read my 2 threads carefully, there are enough infos about w/p/l and the results

Sorry, I must've missed the other thread; I'll have a look for it.

I played DWFP at nickel and dime level at Global Player in 2001, with what appeared to be horrible results - I went about six deuce quads cycles without hitting, and made an almighty fuss about it on another website. However, more recently I went back to play JOB three-line a couple of times, with a handful of BJ hands thrown in also. The results were fine, so I kind of "pardoned" them the grizzly results playing Deuces all that time back.

 

[JohnGalt]

I got a PM from the OP complaining about my original post, so let me post here what I sent back to him:

Ah, I see I got the wager size wrong. Nevertheless, I can easily play 10 hands or so of blackjack per minute on RTG software. That's 600 hands/hr, *$3/hand, =
about $1.8k wagered/hr. 20% of $1.8k is of course $360/hr, which is what you'd make doing this. Even at 5 hands/minute, attainable anywhere, you would make $180/hr.

As far as thousands of hands being necessary, that may or may not be true, I haven't gone and figured it out (at a confidence level of 99% or whatever you'd like). Nevertheless, my point is correct, which is that 120% is SO far off from the expected return of 99.5% that it would take very few hands to prove it was not a fair game. Even if a couple thousand hands are required, that could easily be done in an hour of play.

EDIT: Let me just add that anyone playing a 120% game would recognize this VERY quickly and would probably never stop playing.

 

[frafi]

my best results on online casinos are from the casinos without advertisements and laud crying for bonus offers, I mean the silent ones.
Who pays for all these bonuses? You know who.
One of these is Global Player, another is Casino-Club.

I play on GB usually Baden-Baden, I also have all my hands recorded in an excel spreadsheet.
I can assure you, nothing wrong here, just normal.

The last week I tried a very loud casino, took the highroller bonus, the casino is getminted.
Guess what? Horrible blackjack, I had 20, the dealer comes from 2 slowly to the final 21, horrible!

So I prefer the silent ones...

 

[singledeck]

totally disagree

I would totally disagree with the assessment.

Though I have found Reno BJ on GP streaky it has been the most profitable for me. This includes taking $20 to a $300 cash out over a period of a few days. My preference is actually the Reno game vs. Freaky Friday single deck. Though my wagers vary from $1 - $25, I will stop the session if I get more than 4 losing handles in roll.

I have often felt that this GP game was the best kept secret and maybe it is since my low betting units may give me some advantage, and my losing sessions have been large, when trying to recoup losses from other casinos.





My two cents.

Buck

Hi Buck , naturally its your right to diasagree totally, but i am sure , that you have not played 10 % of my hands, which i have played at GP
please think of it: i do not speak from single events, i speak only for the scandalous regularly results in reno BJ for the higher wager games and bets on the LONG RUN
i have made also several times 500 $ or so in Reno BJ at Global Player starting with onyl 40 $ or so, no problem, but i do not speak from single visits, i only speak about of the results on the long run ...
no one is forced to believe me, but the casinos own statistics is the proof for us and also the extreme different results for high wager and low wager games
we have played enough rounds for significant results !

again: why should at ex. a 2 time bavarian BJ master have in nearly 75 % of visits unbelievable bad results and nearly "criminal" pay out rates or sereis for casino GP for the high wagers and real important games, and why should have the same person and me the unbelievable (also unnormal) good results of ca. 120 % pay out rate for the wagers of 1-3 $ ,
if the software would be totally fair programmated ?
we do not play another stategy or count different in high wager games, we play like in the low wager games and unimportant games...
why should very good and experienced BJ players have in 75 % of visits "bad luck" or series in high wager games and in nearly 100 % of visits "good luck" in bets from 1-3 $ ? this must mae us suspicious, or not ?

this is very unprobable and not possible from the maths and science statistics normally , but the results in GP are exactly so, they know this very well ...
and we do not believe , that we are the only one with this experience...

singledeck

 

[caruso]

have you really read my 2 threads carefully, there are enough infos about w/p/l and the results

Well, I looked as promised: this was the only thread you'd posted in prior to the second one you posted today, and nowhere do you give any details of your play at all. W/L/P means "win / loss / push (tie)" if that wasn't clear. Also, since you're evidently varying your betting, it would be useful to see the big bet figures separated off into their own category.

I believe Global Player will provide this information upon request, if you don't have it.

FTR - you're not the only player to complain about awful results big-betting at Global Player BJ - so you may well have cause for concern. But without some figures to work with, all this goes for nothing.

 

[global]

I believe Global Player will provide this information upon request, if you don't have it.

If Singledeck requests him/herself to make his/her statistics public, we are more than happy to do so. If not, we are, because of out Privacy Policy, not allowed to publish anything from that member.

 

[buck]

If Singledeck requests him/herself to make his/her statistics public, we are more than happy to do so. If not, we are, because of out Privacy Policy, not allowed to publish anything from that member.

Well, since Singledeck has been banned from this site we will never now.
It would have been interesting to see the stats.

I still have much more faith in GP than some of the other sites.


Buck

 

[TrixSlice]

Many people believe that PWC is paid off by the big money makers. What are your thoughts now singledeck?

Oops! My bad, I just realized he's banned. But yeah, I don't care who audits a casinos, I can't trust that they are real audits. i just trust player feedback and casino history. This applies to almost everything in life.