getting documents notarised in Australia?

[maxd]

Got a question for our readers from Oz: where do you get your documents notarised?

• Lawyer?
• Lawyer's Office? (meaning the secretary can do it)
• Public Notary Officer?
• Court?
• Cops?
• Your friendly neighbourhood saint?
• Other? (please specify)

I ask because it seems different for each country, curious what the deal is in Oz.

Thanks,
Max.

PS. for now the thread is "sticky". In a few days I'll pull that and let it scroll with the rest.

 

[wolfydan121]

hey

u can get it done at a court house or the cops can do it if there a JB (justice of the peace) u show them the doc and they will sign it if its the original and they right there JB number on it and in each town/city theres heaps of them i have found
but i think they have to be a justice of the peace to sign it or no one will accept it alot of jbs also stamp it hope that helps there might be more places but thats were i go

 

[maxd]

Thanks for the reply! Just out of curiosity, does it cost you anything to get it done?

 

[wolfydan121]

no they can not charge u for it thank god lol and u just walk in and back out in all of 2 min whats it like in the usa/europe to get it done?????

 

[Gremmyboy]

I had this problem with Moneybookers! They wanted Notarised documents. I had no idea where or what to do. Turned out all it involves is getting your documents signed by a Justice of the peace(JP). They are found everywhere here... Court Houses, Police Stations, Banks, In the yellow Pages, Lots of other places too. I'm pretty sure the law is that they are not allowed to charge for their services so it should always be free.
If you google JP's and then your area you should get a full list.

Hope this was helpful.

Cheers
Gremmy



Add.... I believe the only difference is one is called a Notary and one is called a Justice of the Peace. Same thing but different names.

 

[maxd]

Thanks for the info guys, seems like someone has been trying to pull a fast one on us by claiming that it's a big hassle to get it done in Oz.

Not sure what the deal is in Europe, haven't had to do it yet, but back in Kanader you went to a Notary Public and they did the deed for you. I seem to recall a flat $50 fee regardless of whether you got 1 or 100 documents done. That was back when CAD$50 was about USD$25 so it wasn't as costly as it sounds.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Not sure what the deal is in Europe, haven't had to do it yet, but back in Kanader you went to a Notary Public and they did the deed for you. I seem to recall a flat $50 fee regardless of whether you got 1 or 100 documents done. That was back when CAD$50 was about USD$25 so it wasn't as costly as it sounds.

It can be as little as £5 here. My mum had to knock off a few notarised copies, and got these from a solicitors office.

Although other places can do it, such as banks, even the doctor - they can charge, and the fees can be rather high.

Unless one has encountered this before, such as changing name, dealing with an estate etc, the average person probably has little clue as to how to go about finding somewhere to do this for a reasonable fee.

The DVLA will accept "notarisation" of documents from anyone considered to be in a "profession" rather than just a "job". I got a friend to do mine (ex Civil Servant).

I can't see the point online, unless the casino has a way of validating the NOTARY, which after all, is chosen by the player.

 

[maxd]

I can't see the point online, unless the casino has a way of validating the NOTARY, which after all, is chosen by the player.

I've often wondered this myself, how much due diligence they actually do on notarised docs from a foreign country. Seems they'd have to go well out of their way to _really_ verify the notarisation, though I have heard of it being done.

 

[wolfydan121]

Thanks for the info guys, seems like someone has been trying to pull a fast one on us by claiming that it's a big hassle to get it done in Oz.

lol didnt get them anyway they will have to remember next time there are more then one aussie on here lol happy to help
i gotta say its as easy as getting ur money out of the bank

 

[petro]

I can confirm that Justice of the Peaces (JPs) can notarize documents here in Australia.

Australia is a very spread out country.
This guy could be living in the middle of nowhere. It's more common here compared to other parts of the world. If this were the case it would be very hard to see a JP.

 

[mattsgame]

Got a question for our readers from Oz: where do you get your documents notarised?

• Lawyer?
• Lawyer's Office? (meaning the secretary can do it)
• Public Notary Officer?
• Court?
• Cops?
• Your friendly neighbourhood saint?
• Other? (please specify)

I ask because it seems different for each country, curious what the deal is in Oz.

Thanks,
Max.

PS. for now the thread is "sticky". In a few days I'll pull that and let it scroll with the rest.

Hey Max,

Its quite simple for someone to have there documents verified by a JP (justice of the peace) In Australia.

Our Jp's are located everywhere these include, police stations,chemist's, local council's, libraries and various government agencies and theres probably more. As wolfydan121 has said they cannot charge you for it and it would take very little of your time to do so.


Cheers
Matt

 

[RUSTYROO]

It also depends on what you want notarized and to what country it's going.

My husband's from the United States and his father passed away last year and we had papers sent over from the US from his families lawyer that he needed to get notarized and we went down to the courthouse to get them done by a JP and they said they couldn't notarize that type of document and we would have to get it done by a solicitor.

It ended up costing us $90 to just have one paper signed and witnessed by a solicitor who by the way charged per page .

I pulled this up from Wikipedia under Notary...

All Australian jurisdictions also have Justices of the Peace (JP) or Commissioners for Affidavits and other unqualified persons who are qualified to take affidavits or statutory declarations and to certify documents. However they can only do so if the relevant affidavit, statutory declaration or copy document is to be used only in Australia rather than in a foreign country, with the possible exception of a few Commonwealth countries not including the United Kingdom or New Zealand except for very limited purposes.

 

[Nifty29]

Rustyroo is correct.

The difference here is between 'certified' and 'notarized'.

Over here, in addition to JPs and Commissioners mentioned earlier, many docs can be certified by a pharmacist or postmaster or doctor.

The process of 'certification' is for use inside Australia only, as the credentials of the certifying party can be easily verified.

Notarization is done when documents are required by foreign entities, and depending on the treaties that exist with the relevant country, a special affidavit or seal must bbe attached in addition to just the notarization of the document. The costs of this seal can be upwards of $300 plus the charge for each document. The seal is able to be verified by an International notary organization of which the Notary involved must be a member.

However, if it is for a casino, I would think a certification by a JP would be sufficient as all JPs are listed on the government websites along with contact details for confirmation. There is also a service for verifying drivers licenses online with the dept of transport which would be handy.

The person has no excuse to not be able to provide AT LEAST certified documents.

 

[phantom27]

no they can not charge u for it thank god lol and u just walk in and back out in all of 2 min whats it like in the usa/europe to get it done?????

here in the us, there's a fee, usually, to have paper notarized. i've done some. these people are called notaries and they can be found in the phone book. normally, i'd bring document and my id to the bank, sign the doc in front of the notary and pay 10.00.

 

[same_old]

What a perfect question to ask Max.

ONly about weeks ago I had to do this for Luxbet.

I got a Telstra bill (phone bill) licence and my birth certificate signed off by the Northern Territory Court House. A justice of the peace done it there for me for nothing.

There is many ways you can get it signed off.

A Doctor,Dentist,Nurse and form of Jusitice of the peace can do this.

However the most COMMON way is for people to go into the local Court house and get them signed off.
There was actually two other people doing the exact same thing the time I was there.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I don't think casinos have much of a clue about the more subtle legal definitions, so a certified copy should be enough so long as they had a way of contacting the person who did it.

Notarization at $300+ per page is an unreasonable demand unless a network progressive is at stake.

Maybe the player Max dealt with had never encountered this before, so like some casino CS agents do, brushed it aside as "impossible to do here", without bothering to look it up or ask around - leaving himself open to the suspicion that he had something to hide.

 

[maxd]

It also depends on what you want notarized ....

It was an Aussie driver's licence, and the casino has confirmed that a JoP notarisation is perfectly sufficient.

The player in question was saying that only someone from "law enforcement" could do it -- so said "the RTA (Roads and Traffic Authority)", apparently -- and that the cost was prohibitive. The player was none too keen on giving the casino what they were asking for so I suspect the truth may have lost it's way somewhere along the line.

 

[RUSTYROO]

This person was bull#*%ing you big time then.

The RTA is probably one of the only places you wouldn't find a JP.

God knows they are busy enough as it is without being there to witness or notarize things.... that place is worse than waiting in line at a bank that ran out of money.

 

[Nifty29]

It was an Aussie driver's licence, and the casino has confirmed that a JoP notarisation is perfectly sufficient.

The player in question was saying that only someone from "law enforcement" could do it -- so said "the RTA (Roads and Traffic Authority)", apparently -- and that the cost was prohibitive. The player was none too keen on giving the casino what they were asking for so I suspect the truth may have lost it's way somewhere along the line.

Complete nonsense.

I use my license all the time for ID without even needing notarization.

 

[maxd]

Thanks guys, the input is much appreciated.

 

[mattsgame]

It was an Aussie driver's licence, and the casino has confirmed that a JoP notarisation is perfectly sufficient.

The player in question was saying that only someone from "law enforcement" could do it -- so said "the RTA (Roads and Traffic Authority)", apparently -- and that the cost was prohibitive. The player was none too keen on giving the casino what they were asking for so I suspect the truth may have lost it's way somewhere along the line.

Well as mentioned above there statement is false, its easy to get your i.d notarized and we have 1,000's of JP's.

I do have to ask though why a casino wants this? where they suss to begin with?
just wondering as I have never come across this myself usual a scan of my drivers license is sufficient

Cheers
Matt

 

[maxd]

Yes, as I understand it the casino has serious questions about the validity of the player's documents.

 

[Gremmyboy]

YW!

 

[maxd]

YW!

Sorry, help a geezer out here, what is "YW"?

"You Wok"?
"Yeah Way!"?
"You Wish"?
"You Wanker!"?

 

[RUSTYROO]

YW... Your Welcome
My SMS lingo skills are paying off