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GAMSTOP Is Now Live

Discussion in 'Quit Gambling' started by Nicola, Apr 25, 2018.

    Apr 25, 2018
  1. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Developer
    Location:
    Green Park, London
    GAMSTOP, the national online self-exclusion scheme, is now live for registrations. There is also a free helpline open from 8AM to midnight for registration issues and extensions of existing exclusions: 0800 138 6518

    You can exclude for a period of 6 months, 1 year or 5 years. Whilst the majority of UK operators have joined the scheme, the remaining are in the process of participating and by the end of 2018 it will be compulsory under UKGC rules.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    The national gambling helpline also provides free support until midnight daily for those needing confidential advice, information and emotional support: 0808 8020 133










     
  2. Apr 25, 2018
  3. colinsunderland

    colinsunderland Experienced Member MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    affiliate
    Location:
    uk
    Poor show from the organisations that haven't signed up with it yet, one would assume that the only reason a casino wouldn't be participating in this yet would be that they are hoping to sweep up on problem gamblers who can't go anywhere else.
    Obviously if there are other reasons then I'm sure they can let us know in this thread @LeoVegas Affiliates @Guts (and other gig companies) @DrVegas Phil @Coral Support @Vera&John @L&L-Jan to name but a few
     
  4. Apr 26, 2018
  5. Guts

    Guts Accredited Casino Representative

    Occupation:
    Exceeding our customers expectations
    Location:
    Malta
    Good day people!

    Very glad you brought this up, and we are more than happy to answer.

    We are already integrated towards GAMSTOP, this means that if you have Self-exclusion in place at GAMSTOP, you would already now get blocked once you try to open or log in to an existent account.

    We are already doing the necessary tests to receive our self-certification. We have all the necessary information and components to perform this test and we are doing everything we can do have this done by the end of next week. This means as soon as the testing is done and we have admitted the results and the necessary forms, we will be listed on the GAMSTOP website. This is for the whole GiG group.

    We also wish to emphasize that we under no circumstances wish to "sweep up problem gamblers", we have systems in place and our agents try their best to pick up on this issue as fast as possible.

    We hope this gave a better understanding as to why we are not currently listed, but believe us, we are working as fast as we can to get our listing on the website!
    Should you have any further questions on this matter, or would need further information, please do not hesitate to ask, we will do our best to answer!

    In the meantime, we wish you a very nice day and soon a great weekend.

    - Your Guts Casinomeister Team
     
  6. Apr 26, 2018
  7. itsover2014

    itsover2014 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    NA
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I have a question, if you are excluded at a site, and then they introduce GAMSTOP - Will you stay excluded and then be excluded by everyone else too? Or will you have to sign up to gamstop to be excluded again? How will it work?
     
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  8. Apr 26, 2018
  9. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    London
    I am guessing that as it is you having to add yourself to the global self exclusion database, a casino will not be able to do it on your behalf. Therefore, with logic, if you are self excluded now at casino A, you can continue to play at casino B (providing they are not under the same license of course).

    Only after YOU have added yourself to Gamstop, you will not be able to play at the participating casinos for the selected period of time.
     
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  10. Apr 27, 2018
  11. Guts

    Guts Accredited Casino Representative

    Occupation:
    Exceeding our customers expectations
    Location:
    Malta
    Hello there!

    It is correct that you would have to register with GAMSTOP and then you would be self-excluded throughout the system. With that being said: If you are already self-excluded with us, you will stay excluded.

    Hope this answers your questions!

    Have a very nice weekend everyone!

    - Your Guts Casinomaister Team
     
  12. May 4, 2018
  13. RichyJ75

    RichyJ75 Silly Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Dogsbody and personal servant to my kids
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Well, at 5.24pm last Thursday 26th April 2018 I completed the GamStop forms to take a 6 month 'vacation' from gambling as I have accounts scattered amongst many casinos and although I enjoy the slots and do find it fun, I found myself getting into some bad habits so as a matter of being sensible, opted for this potentially drastic action to ensure I don't have a problem long term.

    So, is it what it should be? Pretty much does what it should do, but:

    1. I have found 3 accounts not affected by signing up to GamStop. Very small deposit limits in place at each site, although I may consider doing manual SE on these to tie up with the GamStop one and knock it all on the head for 6 months.
    2. If the GamStop only affects accounts at casinos under a UKGC licence, surely a problem gambler would only sign up to a RTG casino which isn't governed by the UKGC but still accepts UK players?
    3. Most alarmingly, I was still receiving promotional e-mails from a site earlier this week which was a participant at GamStop, despite the exclusion being in place. I then log on to see whether the account was active, which it was. Tried a deposit and it was accepted even though it was almost a week after opting for the SE.

    So, there are loopholes, not 100% casino membership yet and even though a casino has participated in the scheme it appears certain structures are not in place in order to activate the SE request. What happens in these circumstances? Should any withdrawal be honoured or would it be confiscated as the account should have been blocked under the self exclusion signed up for at GamStop a week previous? I have contacted customer services at the casino in question (Videoslots) who say they have now blocked my account and forwarded my e-mail somewhere.

    Now for 6 months to break habits and routine! Thankfully I am able to leave it without regrets and no debts, but I shall return (in moderation!).
     
  14. May 4, 2018
  15. colinsunderland

    colinsunderland Experienced Member MM webmeister

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    uk
    I guessed that was going to be videoslots before you even mentioned it. They are great in some ways, but customer service (with the exception of Dan) if poor at best. Every time theres a problem it supposedly down to miscommunication, but the fact is the staff weren't trained properly.

    They should pay any deposits back after you self excluded, you shouldn't get any winnings, although I can think of a couple of strong arguments that would get them to pay you.
     
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  16. May 4, 2018
  17. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    London
    How do the mechanics of the global self exclusion work? Are systems linked or is it a question of Gamstop sending emails to the participating casinos requesting self exclusion of the account?

    If the latter, I can foresee some requests going missing or being actioned slowly (not necessarily deliberately by the casino). What happens in that period of time in terms of refunds if gambling is still allowed?
     
  18. May 4, 2018
  19. MaltesePlayer

    MaltesePlayer Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Team Leader
    Location:
    Malta

    This is from the technical guidelines that was sent to us on how it works. Might help a bit :)
     

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  20. May 4, 2018
  21. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
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    Thanks for that.

    Now what does that mean in plain and simple English?
     
  22. May 4, 2018
  23. MaltesePlayer

    MaltesePlayer Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Team Leader
    Location:
    Malta
    Essentially system takes data from registration, compares with what's on GamStops side over an encrypted (secure) connection of course, if there are at least 4/5 matches, then the account registration is blocked, otherwise account is allowed to open.
     
  24. May 4, 2018
  25. RichyJ75

    RichyJ75 Silly Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Dogsbody and personal servant to my kids
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Ok, I have just contacted GamStop and they say that all accounts should be blocked within 24 hours of registering with them. Not sure why after registering at 5.24pm on 26th April that I was then able to carry on depositing and playing at a participating site (I wasn't entirely sure if they were restricted at this point - was just checking that accounts had been blocked where I play) in the early hours of 3rd May. Probably a glitch in the system somewhere, but may prove costly to some people. Not sure who would be at fault here - GamStop or Videoslots processes, or what should happen when it goes wrong!
     
  26. May 4, 2018
  27. RichyJ75

    RichyJ75 Silly Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Dogsbody and personal servant to my kids
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    This is seriously turning into a fiasco now!

    A few minutes ago I received an e-mail from GamStop. Before they can complete my registration with them, they need me to fill out an application form and scan it back to them (I have already completed one online), send a picture of my ID and one of me holding it and also two different documents to validate my address. This is, for a better word, total bollocks as I have already completed the application form online over a week ago and went through security to confirm ID - they ask questions and cross reference them with your credit file it seems before accepting the application. Supposedly they need to push it through manually now, so assume their electronic systems are a bit crap!

    It also raises the question that if my original application didn't work, why are so many of my casino accounts blocked because of it?

    And this is supposed to encourage people to use them in order to quit gambling? By the end of this process I think I'll have a drinking problem and will have to have counselling on that!!

    Now where's that brick wall I need to hit my head against ........
     
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  28. May 17, 2018
  29. slotter999

    slotter999 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Player
    Location:
    UK
    Oh dear. Doesn't sound very player friendly. What happens if you take the do nothing option - you enter some sort of self exclusion purgatory?

    Been a while since you posted this so wonder if there has been any update?
     
  30. May 17, 2018
  31. RichyJ75

    RichyJ75 Silly Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Dogsbody and personal servant to my kids
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Well, it all seems to be working, except with the Videoslots and GoWild situations where there were issues with them setting the exclusion in place as supposedly GamStop failed to flag my exclusion with them. Nevertheless, it all seems to be in place now! I was happy to liaise with various parties to deal with these issues, but thought the guinea pig stages would already have been tested!

    Strange feeling really and although I know a couple of places not yet registered to GamStop so I can still play there, there is less of an inclination to. Don't get me wrong, I love playing slots and it has been very kind to me of late, but also a relief to be able to walk away while I am still happy and with no regrets.

    Hopefully GamStop will make it more player friendly and the casinos iron out these teething issues as this is a great tool to use. Bit pissed off with GoWild and their attitude to me and giving me a 5 year exclusion when I only requested 6 months from GamStop to take a break while I was on a high, but, their loss when I do return.
     
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  32. May 17, 2018
  33. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    Londonia
    So all in all it works, barring a couple of casinos where it doesn't, not to mention those that will find 'difficulty' integrating it fully for months to come :p

    But as they, it's a start :eek::cool:
     
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  34. May 17, 2018
  35. pinnit2014

    pinnit2014 Meister Member MM PABinit

    Occupation:
    Work with figures, other audit-y things
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Good luck Richy: more to life than staring at the laptop hoping and praying for that wildline!

    And no regrets and happy aren’t normally associated with gambling ;)
     
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  36. May 19, 2018
  37. ReggieMac

    ReggieMac Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Senior Software Developer
    Location:
    UK
    Well, as I have finally gotten bored of online slots, and after a roller coaster ride over the last 12 months I am lucky enough to come out at the end of it a mere £1137.24 down overall. So to avoid all temptation going forward I am cutting my losses and have signed up to GamStop simply to remove any temptation to change my mind. I have enjoyed my highs, loathed my lows but mostly enjoyed myself. After signing up to GamStop I was quite impressed to receive emails from BetFair & Paddy Power within a few hours (even though I have not logged in to either of those sites for a few weeks) and all my other accounts were locked almost as quickly, certainly in under 24 hours. I can see this being a very useful tool going forward whether gambling is a problem or not for any individual. :thumbsup:
     
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  38. May 20, 2018
  39. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Developer
    Location:
    Green Park, London
    Great to see this working and providing relief to many.

    Although GAMSTOP do not plan to release figures on the uptake, I'm hoping that the UKGC will include them in the annual report.
     

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