Gambling Online Almost Banned For The U.S Player!!!!!!!

GGW Laurie

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Well having enjoyed online gambling for many years, i almost can say for certain , Americans will be scraping the bottom of the barrel when funding their deposits from now on.

I talked with someone at Wired Plastic today and they assured me that all gambling sites that have been used by patrons in the past will now be blocked, this has been something they have been working on for awhile, she did say some may get lucky and it will slip by but doubtful, she also said that other Pre Paid cards are following suit or have already implemented a plan to ban gambling with any pre paid cards.

I wonder how long it will be before Quick Tender/ Usemywallet follows their lead not to mention Ewallet accounts.

So what do we do as Americans who wish to be entertained with online gambling? I feel that all respectable casinos need to find a way to keep this huge American market going by finding a way for us to gamble at their casinos, if they lose us, then they will feel a huge affect on their bussiness imo.

If it keeps up at this rate, we will all be seeing each other playing Pogo games.

I urge all Reps on here to find a solution to this problem, to help the US player and in turn by saving your vast customer base you have built up here as this will also affect affiliates and their livlihood, who depend on that US player depositing.

Im sure im not the only American player or Affiliate who feels this way.


Laurie
 

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If it gets to the point where U.S. players can't play online anymore, for many it will be a blessing in disguise.

I for one would probably end up with less annual losses. In addition would have a reason to get off my fat ass and make the trip to brick and mortars for casino fun.

If online poker is effected I would be forced to visit the local clubs more often.
 

GGW Laurie

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If it gets to the point where U.S. players can't play online anymore, for many it will be a blessing in disguise.

I for one would probably end up with less annual losses. In addition would have a reason to get off my fat ass and make the trip to brick and mortars for casino fun.

If online poker is effected I would be forced to visit the local clubs more often.
There are so many folks that cant leave home due to an illness or such that like to gamble at home also not to mention they might not be within driving distance to a Brick and Mortar casino..............laurie

edit: I was able to use my card at one Rival casino...............
 

jelsmith

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well this seriously BLOWSSSSSSSSSSSSS. This is so ridiculous. Well WP might as well close their doors then and NS as well if this is what they are gonna do.
 

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I remember when Paypal left the online gambling market, it was very tough for many and many thought it would be impossible to play from the US. Then Neteller became popular and everyone thought it would be impossible to play from the US after they left. But other options came up, they always do.

Trust me, processing is a top concern for any smart US facing operator. And no matter how many leave the US market, there will always be more. Where there is a will among consenting adults who are not hurting anyone, there almost always is a way.

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager
 

Simmo!

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The debate on the gambling Bills on December the 3rd might shed a little more light on this subject - for those that missed the other thread, you can tune in on CSPAN and cross your fingers.
 

amatrine

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Its sick. Pretty soon, you will goto jail if you do not have health insurance, you will goto jail if you gamble online,...

Man, what happened to this country. I wish I could leave!
 

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Considering that the UIEGA implementation deadline has been pushed back 6 months into next summer, it would appear that WP would be jumping the gun. It is likely they'll have to undo all the work pending Congressional approval of regulation of online gambling. Of course, it is speculative if we actually see regulation but it does appear we are headed that way. So WP and others should simma down na!:D
 

vinylweatherman

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Considering that the UIEGA implementation deadline has been pushed back 6 months into next summer, it would appear that WP would be jumping the gun. It is likely they'll have to undo all the work pending Congressional approval of regulation of online gambling. Of course, it is speculative if we actually see regulation but it does appear we are headed that way. So WP and others should simma down na!:D
Perhaps they were working on it, and had plans in place for blocking on 1st December, but would only implement the blocking when they had to, which until this week was thought to be the 1st December.

These pre-pay cards must have been making money from gambling transactions, and clearly knew this, but turned a blind eye because they wanted to hang on till UIGEA was implemented, making it a legal requirement for them to start blocking these transactions.

The problem is that whatever comes along now may be very dodgy, and may start ripping off players, as QT appears to be doing, by taking extra sums from cards when they think they can get away with it.
 

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Its sick. Pretty soon, you will goto jail if you do not have health insurance, you will goto jail if you gamble online,...

Man, what happened to this country. I wish I could leave!
Isn't Sen Kyle from Arizxna? I bet you voted for the ba****d!!! :)
 
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Simmo!

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The problem is that whatever comes along now may be very dodgy, and may start ripping off players, as QT appears to be doing, by taking extra sums from cards when they think they can get away with it.
Well the bottom line is the FBI turned out to be the best friend a criminal could ever want. Their "high profile" arrests successfully scared off many of the reputable law-abiding operations and left the door open for the sharks to pile on in. So it's only logical that the UIGEA should do the same for the payment processors. Some politicians eh :rolleyes:
 

kakata

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Wired plastic and netspend were alive because of gambling transactions.
Who would, in his right mind, use these cards for any other purposes.
They charge you if you breath and if you pee more than once a day.( I do ):p
If we might no longer gamble ....:oops:
They will have to shot down completely.:cool:
 

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good thing

Having lost countless thousands over the years in online gambling, having won $160,000 from a casino and not been paid, having had money in casino's that went bust, I can only say that we would be far better off without online gambling.

The "its an invasion of civil rights arguement" was the same one put up when seat belts where first introduced, its often that we need protecting from our own stupidity.

Online casino's prove time after time that they cannot behave and do not offer a truely regulated and fair environment, even when there are supposedly good regulators involved.

I talked with Malta lotteries and gaming for over 12 months Begging them to investigate betonbet.com and they did nothing, betonbet did not even have a full licence in malta, it then turned turtle leaving many without payments or even their own deposits.

Bring on the ban internationally it will be doing us all a favour.
 

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Its sick. Pretty soon, you will goto jail if you do not have health insurance, you will goto jail if you gamble online,...

Man, what happened to this country. I wish I could leave!

Yup, here in Massachusetts if you don't have health insurance you get a fee you have to pay when doing your taxes, and it's a HEALTHY fee.

Adults can make their own decisions, I hate how the government think it's ok for them to tell us how to live, last I checked I was 38 not 8....Oh and I assume the things we get in trouble for they don't, or of course they have plenty of money to afford health insurance or use their personal jet to fly off to Vegas to gamble or what have you.
 

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Or so it used to feel like. Goverment and Financial Institutions have WAY too much power. We're told how to raise our children, (without any discipline) so the unruly run wild with no respect for themselves or thier elders. And yes it truley PISSES me off when some freakin company tells me where I can spend MY MONEY. My credits not to great so I use a prepaid visa to gamble with. It's A PRE PAID CARD the money's there or the chargee does'nt go through. It's not like they are losing money. Much to my suprise when I do deposit at a casino the charge shows up as some non casino sounding business for a few cents less than what I deposited. (example; $25,00 shiows up as $24.96. And the money is put back onto my card and resubmitted at a cost usually 5 to 10 cents more than the 25.00.

Not knowing this has led to negative balances on my card of 2 cents, which the card company gladly charges me for the negative balance (at a cost of $4.99) Why the casinos do this is beyond me.And its cost me well over $100.00 in the last few years......... Bottom line is,........ IT'S A PREPAID FRIGIN CARD, DON'T BE SHELLING OUT MORE THAN I HAVE TO GIVE. AND WHO THE HELL GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO TELL ME WHERE TO SPEND MY MONEY? Wow, I'd better go take my blood pressure medicine, LOL. Enough said, have a nice day!!!! Oh P.S. can someone explain how you get a picture to associate with your login?
 
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Having lost countless thousands over the years in online gambling, having won $160,000 from a casino and not been paid, having had money in casino's that went bust, I can only say that we would be far better off without online gambling.

The "its an invasion of civil rights arguement" was the same one put up when seat belts where first introduced, its often that we need protecting from our own stupidity.

Online casino's prove time after time that they cannot behave and do not offer a truely regulated and fair environment, even when there are supposedly good regulators involved.

I talked with Malta lotteries and gaming for over 12 months Begging them to investigate betonbet.com and they did nothing, betonbet did not even have a full licence in malta, it then turned turtle leaving many without payments or even their own deposits.

Bring on the ban internationally it will be doing us all a favour.
Lucky21 , maybe you should change your nick :))

and though I can understand yourn feelings , I don't think they are dfoing me any favor.......I make up my mind what I want to do and am willing to take the consequences.
 

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Or so it used to feel like. Goverment and Financial Institutions have WAY too much power. We're told how to raise our children, (without any discipline) so the unruly run wild with no respect for themselves or thier elders. And yes it truley PISSES me off when some freakin company tells me where I can spend MY MONEY. My credits not to great so I use a prepaid visa to gamble with. It's A PRE PAID CARD the money's there or the chargee does'nt go through. It's not like they are losing money. Much to my suprise when I do deposit at a casino the charge shows up as some non casino sounding business for a few cents less than what I deposited. (example; $25,00 shiows up as $24.96. And the money is put back onto my card and resubmitted at a cost usually 5 to 10 cents more than the 25.00.

Not knowing this has led to negative balances on my card of 2 cents, which the card company gladly charges me for the negative balance (at a cost of $4.99) Why the casinos do this is beyond me.And its cost me well over $100.00 in the last few years......... Bottom line is,........ IT'S A PREPAID FRIGIN CARD, DON'T BE SHELLING OUT MORE THAN I HAVE TO GIVE. AND WHO THE HELL GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO TELL ME WHERE TO SPEND MY MONEY? Wow, I'd better go take my blood pressure medicine, LOL. Enough said, have a nice day!!!! Oh P.S. can someone explain how you get a picture to associate with your login?

Got to agree with you, and it's not just in the States but everywhere, with increasingly over-ambitious and greedy governments collaborating with each other to stick their goddamn noses into everyone's private business.

And talking of blood pressure, you should see mine soar every time I read about government bureaucrats wasting taxpayers' monies on unaffordable flights of fancy when there are so many areas within the local economy where the money could be better spent.
 

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Bring on the ban internationally it will be doing us all a favour.
If a teetotal politician proposed a Bill banning alcohol, imagine the outcry. It's not about online gambling, it's about freedom of choice. If you ban everyone from doing anything where there is a social or monetary implication on the local economy, you're no longer living in a free environment.

That is what "Regulation" is all about - ensuring that citizens retain freedom of choice but in a controlled environment. If it's implemented effectively, the issues you raise should be provided for.

In the case of online gambling, regulation should also go some way to replacing rogue operators with legal above-board operations - not so much in that the rogues will simply leave now they have their foothold again, but it should mean that the limelight will be occupied with legitimate operations once again, ironically a situation the USA was in before the UIGEA forced most of the good ones to pull out.
 

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