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Fun with "training-money" - are you up for the task?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by kimss, Aug 3, 2007.

    Aug 3, 2007
  1. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Since MG at the moment (I guess it will change pretty soon now...) allows you to downbload playcheck data with freemoney, we have an exclusive chance to do som fine testing of the RNG with most of you trust with your hearts. Ive been collecting alot of data, and have already come up with some assumptions I would like to have more people explore a little.

    Most of you seem to agree that my assumtion is false:

    1. MG has 1 game with 180+ skins, not 180+ games.

    Since I am obviously wrong, this should mean that winning in one game should not penalize you in the other. Loosing in one game should not give you a great win in the next one - since there is true RNG there should be no connection.

    Here is my dare:

    Start playing in freemode and keep track of the overall payout%. (This is eeasilly achieved with my paycheck calculator posted earlier, and since the playcheck data is possible to download aslong as you do it in the same session as playing. If you log out it will not be available, therefore play and dowbload data - log out).

    Look at the feature wins when your overall payout is below 95%, versus when it's above 95%.

    Do you find a "pattern?"

    And please, base your opinions on accually doing this excersice and not only by your personal opinion based on what you think.

    Good luck, it's a fun excersise and it doesn't cost you anything.
     
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  2. Aug 3, 2007
  3. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Thanks Kimss, I was just going to post about the same thing, but call it 'on your honor' to compare money management strategies. I'm glad to know we can retrieve data from fun mode.

    Would you be so kind as to direct to the post with your calculator? (that was weeks ago wasn't it?) or post a new version with instructions.

    Do you suggest a starting amount?

    Thx
     
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  4. Aug 3, 2007
  5. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    The thread with script, or online version would be:
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...-php-script-calculate-stats-mg-playcheck.html

    I would suggest, in the start you might wager what you enjoy $1 -> $10, just as you would in real play for your own money since you start with a zero payout % for starters. After a few thousand spins your total wagered amount versus wins will be such a high number that you pretty much need to wager maximum on the slots to have any effect on the payout% without doing a million spins. After all, it takes time, and it's timeconsuming downloading the stats aswell. (but its freeeeee!)

    At the moment I'm into 110.000 spins in one casino with complete stats, and usually after a big win (well, they come in pairs it seems) I play to loose it all, and try to stuff 15.000 - 20.000 in real cash before wagering on the slot I'm trying to get a huge payout% on. After 2 consecutive wins, I usually have 2 slots I wager on (and therefore I have a strange low payout on theese).

    You will also notice after a while that some slots, on specific wagers it s4eems impossible to loose on however hard you try! At the moment it seems Avalon on 90 bet just wont loose! Everything else is a killer, like 90.000 on 4000 spins in losses on 100, but 90 - cant loose there. Its annoying, :D

    After a while you get better in "predicting" how much you need to loose before going to your favourite "win" machine. Always loose it all, deposit some more and loose this aswell - and the lower your overall payout is - the higher expectancy for a great feature for some strange reason would be. Atleast for me it's thiw way.

    My theory is that you will, in the start, most likely hit some wins which surpasses the 100% payout - but after this you will probably never go over 99% (probably not this either before you have deposited atleast 200.000)which is followed by emense losses before a new x100+ win comes along. I'm going on vacation in 2 days, but when I get back I will be looking into formatting my data to something presentable.

    Remember not to have to long sessions, so that you get down the playcheck data. I usually go for like 1000 spins or so in each session.

    I do however play a little different than I usually does, since I am willing to to do 500 spins on each slot if it's really bad, infact I'll even do more, :D But then aqgain, it's so pleasing when the feature comes on your "collector-slot" in the first 15 most of the time, :D

    Looking forward hearing from your excersise.
     
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  6. Aug 3, 2007
  7. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Also another thing, Good to Go is a great example on this one. If you are on $1 coinsize, tro doing say 100 spins on $9, 100 on $18, 100 on $27 and so on to $90. Also do it with 7 lines, from x1 to x10. Dont do all at once, but here and there. You will notice there are certain wagers that more easily payout for some strange reason (again...).

    This is handy to be aware of when you are trying to get that extra high percentage on this slot after loosing bigtime. This seems to work for most other slots aswell (as mentioned with Avalon which I cannot loose on $90 wagering whatever hard I try, even after winning big It won't let be get below 100% payout!!!)

    I would also recommend playing in pattern (since there are no patterns this should be of a problem). And by this I mean, in the start you play all the slots until you find some sort of "overlook" on what pays and what not. Then after a huge loosing streak - play your "winners", and after winning play your "loosers". Point of execsise is then in the long run to end up with +100% on you winners and -85% on your loosers. The more 1000 spins you squeeze out of the slot the more weird it becomes, since there is no logic to it.

    Again - it's probably me being a conspiracy nut, :D
     
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