Fruityslots employing streamers?

[Playford7]

And i thought i ate too much crap .

Just found Easter eggs in a cupboard. Must be for some weans easter. So guess who just took one. Need to replace it and probably the others later in week.

My diet is terrible, how I’ve a body like a Greek god is beyond me..
Easter egg chocolate is the best, especially Cadbury’s.

 

[paul7388]

My diet is terrible, how I’ve a body like a Greek god is beyond me..
Easter egg chocolate is the best, especially Cadbury’s.

Yeah it was a large Buttons Egg. Hard bit is knowing that i left a creme egg one in there amongst the others.

That's why i have been likened to a Greek God as well. Pity it was Silenus

 

[goatwack]

This is what one loves about streamer threads. Cadbury's Eggs, fat Greek gods and then back to Rosh

 

[sufferinsilence]

Well that show to me that CG at least features streamers that risk their own money. I know that CG gets a lot of stick on this forum (mostly unjustified imo) but there is no dodgy stuff going on. As a streamer you use their platform as a form of exposure to your streams. In return you give them exposure from which they benefit by gaining more traffic to their site, participating in their organised promotions etc. You scratch their back, and they scratch yours so to speak.

Not really giving them stick but I liked the old line-up way more than the horde of streamers they have on their platform nowadays. It used to be a bit of an exclusive club so to speak and it seems these days everyone and their dog is a CG streamer.

 

[lockinlove]

Nah.... chucked the streaming in. No point trying to compete with the professional streamers / video producers with their bonus hunts starting in excess of what an average person earns every 2 to 3 months, giveaways for the same amount just to entice them to click on the affiliate link (against most if not all affiliate terms- and conditions).

Streaming back then was good. £0.60 to £1.50 spins, £3 was considered high rolling and a viewer giveaway consisted out of 50 shitty free spins with wagering attached, and where a casino was tested good and proper before promoting them. The good old times before it was spoiled by clowns such as we are discussing here.

The problem is you smaller streamers who have morals dont have a fighting chance anymore. The only way to make money is be a sell out. There are new streamers who pop up every day. Go look at this new guy livetck..He showed up $10 euro bets all day on a bonus, how? And he looks to be another 22 year old. Amazing.

Then alot of the viewers dont want to support other streamers because they picture them going on shopping sprees with affy money when in reality that does not happen at all for people with 100 viewers and only really help cover SOME deposits. But then when you quit, they cry and wonder why and wish you streamed but dont want to help support their entertainment and instead open up your affy links in different windows so you dont get it. Which is their choice but dont cry when you guys are left with only frauds. i support small streamers who i know are legit because they give me entertainment when bored and i enjoy it.

i suspect all real money streamers who bet your size to be completely wiped out soon. They cannot keep up to the other fake streamers betting $2-$10 all day long so when they go watch someone betting 60 cent its totally boring to them because they have been poisoned by the fraud stakes.

Someone wins $300 on 60 cent thats a great hit but to these dummies, they see that as a 30x win on most channels with their fake stakes so its boring.

its funny when i go to a land based almost no one betting in the $5 and up section.. yet on twitch every channel max betting and have shitty apartments in the back round.

Sad.

 

[Playford7]

This is what one loves about streamer threads. Cadbury's Eggs, fat Greek gods and then back to Rosh

Fat Greek gods? Isn’t that a lesser tanned version of chip..
anyhow nevermind im eating

 

[Playford7]

The problem is you smaller streamers who have morals dont have a fighting chance anymore. The only way to make money is be a sell out. There are new streamers who pop up every day. Go look at this new guy livetck..He showed up $10 euro bets all day on a bonus, how? And he looks to be another 22 year old. Amazing.

Then alot of the viewers dont want to support other streamers because they picture them going on shopping sprees with affy money when in reality that does not happen at all for people with 100 viewers and only really help cover SOME deposits. But then when you quit, they cry and wonder why and wish you streamed but dont want to help support their entertainment and instead open up your affy links in different windows so you dont get it. Which is their choice but dont cry when you guys are left with only frauds. i support small streamers who i know are legit because they give me entertainment when bored and i enjoy it.

i suspect all real money streamers who bet your size to be completely wiped out soon. They cannot keep up to the other fake streamers betting $2-$10 all day long so when they go watch someone betting 60 cent its totally boring to them because they have been poisoned by the fraud stakes.

Someone wins $300 on 60 cent thats a great hit but to these dummies, they see that as a 30x win on most channels with their fake stakes so its boring.

its funny when i go to a land based almost no one betting in the $5 and up section.. yet on twitch every channel max betting and have shitty apartments in the back round.

Sad.

That’s the thing. £2 is a normal stake to the likes of chunk and nickslots, they call it ‘sensible stakes’
Really? 100 spins is £200, that could be gone in minutes on certain games.
The constant reloads, no max bet etc.. it’s really toxic.
sadly. And not all.. but many viewers are just over 18, jobless and think this is a way to make money.
look at the time the guys stream, says it all about the viewer in general. I’ve seen them that time when sat on my arse offshore awaiting a permit for hours, it’s the same mods, same bores time after time.
as you say if it’s not a 1000x hit it’s classed as shit, when in reality to a real player a 200x hit is fantastic.
it’s not even blurred the lines of reality, it’s blown it out of the water and made slots laughable.
you get desperate divvies saying ‘ try, x game I’ve a good feeling’ or ‘we done it’ we haha!..
casino grounds are not to blame, but Jesus its like a drama school for desperate folks in a tiny little house wanting to emulate there idols.
Utterly pathetic.

 

[Kroffe]

Greek god was it?

 

[Playford7]

Greek god was it?



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Haha bear! That’s superb
Cheered me up no end!! fine work you cheeky little scamp! im a bit bigger however and usually have a staffy on a lead looking rough with a tattoo on my neck lol!
seriously though it’s great that mate lol!

 

[interlog]

What did it for me was a video producer playing on a casino and telling his viewers to sign up so they can participate in his £1000 raffle.

It was the 1st time he played at said casino! How can he vouch for them in terms of reliability, withdrawals etc.

Sums it about up.

 

[Playford7]

What did it for me was a video producer playing on a casino and telling his viewers to sign up so they can participate in his £1000 raffle.

It was the 1st time he played at said casino! How can he vouch for them in terms of reliability, withdrawals etc.

Sums it about up.

Mark this about sums up my argument with streamers in one.
They promote certain casinos, then a day or so later said casino has terrible terms, blanks complaints, ignores customers. Has terms worse than that of a nazi concentration camp..
they never mention the group or casinos either incase your self excluded.
when actually trying to address this with certain streamers comments are removed from channels and your labelled a troll.
No disrespect to hard working affiliates, but many so called popular streamers are either thick or purposely misleading sign ups. There only job is to be a affiliate, so how hard is it to look at a casinos license, the group and terms and conditions and vet said casino yourself before directing people to play there? It’s not rocket science, yet most don’t. Certainly some more popular ones that may have had accounts here in the past mentioning no names of course.
decent folk like you mark as you say stand zero chance, well unless your prepared to sell your soul mate.

 

[colinsunderland]

What did it for me was a video producer playing on a casino and telling his viewers to sign up so they can participate in his £1000 raffle.

It was the 1st time he played at said casino! How can he vouch for them in terms of reliability, withdrawals etc.

Sums it about up.

All the 'raffles' that do that are actually illegal lotteries, assuming there isn't a free entry route, which is no harder to do than the paid entry. Just had a look at fruityslots page and theirs are definitely illegal lotteries.

I would also suggest screenshot comps are possibly the same, as theres no skill involved, and no way of free entry, unless you can submit 'free play' screenshots.

 

[Kroffe]

Haha bear! That’s superb
Cheered me up no end!! fine work you cheeky little scamp! im a bit bigger however and usually have a staffy on a lead looking rough with a tattoo on my neck lol!
seriously though it’s great that mate lol!

Ah, my bad.
Fixed it.



Edit: aaaah, now i get what you meant with a little bigger.
fixed again.

 

[Playford7]

Ah, my bad.
Fixed it.

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Edit: aaaah, now i get what you meant with a little bigger.
fixed again.

Haha! That’s superb and almost a mirror image!
made my night that mate! Great stuff, I may make it my new screen shot thing or selfy on here or whatever you call it.
my dogs not happy however, she’s brown not black.
Reported for racism

 

[Kroffe]

Haha! That’s superb and almost a mirror image!
made my night that mate! Great stuff, I may make it my new screen shot thing or selfy on here or whatever you call it.
my dogs not happy however, she’s brown not black.
Reported for racism

She better hurry back, or that black staffy is gonna eat all her kebab&dr.pepper.
=)

 

[interlog]

All the 'raffles' that do that are actually illegal lotteries, assuming there isn't a free entry route, which is no harder to do than the paid entry. Just had a look at fruityslots page and theirs are definitely illegal lotteries.

I would also suggest screenshot comps are possibly the same, as theres no skill involved, and no way of free entry, unless you can submit 'free play' screenshots.

You're pretty versed with T's and C's etc.

What's your thought of incentivising signups with these raffles -v- the terms and conditions of most affiliate programmes that prohibit this? The casinos appear to be happy with it I am assuming, so why have it in the T's and C's in the first place?

 

[Slottery]

These raffles probably are bit grey area like @colinsunderland stated, also and especially when you have to sign in and deposit to participate, wouldn't these also need to have permission from some authorities?

It probably wouldn't be ok if i start to to promote and sell my virtual raffle tickets all over internet. Who is paying taxes from these prizes? Who is actually arranging them (and under which license number)? How cool it is that casinos are actively taking part in arrangements (checking winners, contacting them behalf of affiliate to ask consent to provide contact details that winner can be contacted)? And few more similar points which come to head in one minute.

Running illegal lotteries without any license, any taxes etc... for sure is not cool from a regulations point of view. Would be pretty similar from that perspective if i would add some self-made slot to my site and you can make one euro spins and win prizes, top of "normal" winnings, monthly raffle between all participated players.

 

[colinsunderland]

You're pretty versed with T's and C's etc.

What's your thought of incentivising signups with these raffles -v- the terms and conditions of most affiliate programmes that prohibit this? The casinos appear to be happy with it I am assuming, so why have it in the T's and C's in the first place?

What used to happen, and it was mainly on matched betting sites from memory, would be the affiliate would be on a CPA deal. So if he was getting £100 for a customer signing up, depositing and wagering £20, he would offer everyone £20 to sign up and spend, and they could keep any winnings. He would get paid £100 - £20 outlay, the customer got a £20 free bet, the affiliate program would lose £80 minimum, as matched betting customers would rarely go back. Thats what the rule was put in place to stop happening. I imagine it happened with casinos too, but at least with casinos you had the chance the customers would return.

 

[colinsunderland]

These raffles probably are bit grey area like @colinsunderland stated, also and especially when you have to sign in and deposit to participate, wouldn't these also need to have permission from some authorities?

It probably wouldn't be ok if i start to to promote and sell my virtual raffle tickets all over internet. Who is paying taxes from these prizes? Who is actually arranging them (and under which license number)? How cool it is that casinos are actively taking part in arrangements (checking winners, contacting them behalf of affiliate to ask consent to provide contact details that winner can be contacted)? And few more similar points which come to head in one minute.

Running illegal lotteries without any license, any taxes etc... for sure is not cool from a regulations point of view. Would be pretty similar from that perspective if i would add some self-made slot to my site and you can make one euro spins and win prizes, top of "normal" winnings, monthly raffle between all participated players.

Its not a grey area, they are illegal, some advice below

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They could argue no one is paying the streamer for entry, but you have to pay money to be included in the draw, therefore it's a lottery. I had this argument a couple of years ago with Captain Rizk about one Nickslots was running, he was going to speak to his legal team and come back to me. Despite me reminding him a couple of times after that, he never did. You would think if I was wrong, and what they were doing was legal, he would have told me so

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Yeppp shit man I remember the days when some nights I was the only one streaming and using a cam. Now the whole section is full of fake channels running 24 hours a day. it def sucks for us smaller betters because as others say its hard to draw in crowds when everyone is used to seeing $10 spins in most channels. i know hundreds of people come in my channel and see me doing 80 cent or $1 spins and instantly leave because of that.

For me I just keep trucking along because some of the funniest people who I consider friends are people who hang out with me. i may call you all names on streams but it comes from the bottom of my heart ;o

Yeppp I got affiliate links but I try to not to push them on people and are just there if people want to use them who hang out so it can cover some losses so i dont have to quit streaming doing what I like to do and what others like to see me do. Up to them though I would never be upset at people for not using them.

But I for sure understand interlogs frustrations. The guy is playing real money struggling for viewers while all these other guys are on deals where they get 500% but have capped winnings of 5x, or fake money or whatever and they have 200 viewers and not really using real money or really gambling for real. i have been offered all these deals. 10x max cashout for unlimited 100% bonus, fake money etc. I always say no because I am there to gamble and have fun. Though thats what its about.

Another tough part of it is trying to stream alot because how expensive it is and in order to build something you have to stream like 5 days a week. -- so its always a fighting battle between trying not to go busto and streaming enough so people get used to you and expect you.

I hope you rethink your decision @interlog and yeah I know I only hosted you once or twice and didnt hang out much but that mostly the time difference for me but I for sure would make more of an attempt to come and hang out if you returned and I hope some of the forum members here that like him and compliment him would maybe go say hey sometimes too. Afterall, you guys hate fake money streamers so go support some real ones by saying hey. it can actually be pretty fun hanging out and talking to streamers and others in chat. iI was a viewer first for a long time and i thought this looks fun so I started. Yeehaw

Dont hate all of us streamers guys! Some of us are actually ok people.

Sorry I went all fredos up in here with the big novel

 

[Hfn74]

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Do you think they'll be playing with real money?

How can you tell its fruity slots?? Dont shout I'm new

 

[Kroffe]

I wasnt allowed to enter because of adblocker.
But this a part of the url "/job/fruity-slots-malta-24-twitch-youtube-streamers/"

 

[Playford7]

So tempted.. ohhhh so tempted!!!..

 

[slotmaster]

I wasnt allowed to enter because of adblocker.
But this a part of the url "/job/fruity-slots-malta-24-twitch-youtube-streamers/"

I have adblocker so that could have been the problem.

 

[Kroffe]

I have adblocker so that could have been the problem.

Works in incognito-mode.
But you are not missing much.

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