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Wim -

What about early-morning phone calls? Email and spam I can deal with, even if it is unwanted.

Waking me up early in the morning I cannot deal with. For me, this would be the straw that broke the camel's back.

That's just an opinion, mind you. I haven't played at FL for a while now after twice encountering Chad.
 
Early morning phonecalls would bum me out. I would be leery of letting CS reps make these calls. Time zones, spouses, and little kids could cause this thing to backfire.

BTW, I was playing at 7Sultans this weekend, so not all hope is lost :D
 
spearmaster:

Although we have an outbound team they do not work the hours in which pokeraddict received the call. The call was made by a person who handles charge back recoveries and should not, perhaps, have been made at that time of the morning. The issue has been addressed with the relevant staff members.

VP Operations
Fortune Lounge
 
FL, I assure you you did send me a cheque after requesting to be paid by neteller. I called your customer service and was told I had to be a member of the casino for 3 months before my cashins would be sent to the option of my choice. Also, at least 3 other friends of mine have recieved the same reply so please do not patronize me with quick answers. Maybe it is time to get your CS in order, they appear to be inefficient and uninformed.
 
"Jamesdean: With immediate effect, cash ins will be refunded back to Neteller regardless of the time the player has played with us."

-FL

Sorry, I miss read your answer, hopefully you will in the future actually pay people where they want to be paid.
 
To add to my earlier post, i did get what I felt like was a sincere apology for their employees decision to call my house so early. Hopefully noone else will get such a phone call since it has been addressed.
 
Okay is this acceptable?

5:30 AM Phone Rang: Hello!!!
PHL: Hello Mr. Lillipop, I am calling you on behalf of your account with PHL Casino. Did Awaken you sir?
LP: YES!!!
PHL: GOOD! :<,) We are going to forfeit your payment because we feel that your picture doesn't like the ones that comes from Charm's.
LP: What? I have been a sucker all my life and that ID is 100% from TOOTSIE!!!!
PHL: Look here We had our special Fraud Team to take alook at your wrapper and its has been determine that you are a fraud!
LP: WHAT????
PHL: You heard what I said!! You are a G-D Fraud!
LP: Excuse ME???
PHL: We are going to refund your deposit and forfeit your winnings!
LP: I Assure you that...
PHL: Look HERE! You mother-suckers are all the same with this crap! I am tired of you and your fraudulent wrappers. Now I have made my decision and that final.
LP: Wait...
PHL: >,click<,

30 minutes later...Phone Rings!

LP: HELLO!?!?!
PHL: Hello, This is Blah Say Blah calling from PHL Casino and we see that you have open an account with us and would like to interest you in a 25% deposit bonus.

(LMAO)
 
Are we not hearing the same apologetic cry we get once a month from FL claiming they have revampt their policies?

Although I aplaud them from making the effort, I can't see why anyone would want to play there due to their overwhelming number of comlaints.

I myself went through an absolute debacle with FL, fortunately I was aware of this site and with CM's help resolved the issue.

I wonder though how many players face these same issues but are unable to find resolution because they are unaware of such great sites as CM, and thus FL gets away with taking that player for a ride.

God knows that trying to talk civily with one of their CS reps is near impossible when a problem abounds, they are thicker skulled then Arturo Gati.

I only wish I could trust playing at FL because they do offer some of the best weekly bonuses, but I cannot make myself deposit when every month I see an enormous issue, with some player being mistreated.

I'm sorry but their are just too many other casinos out there that offer far superior service.
 
should not, perhaps, have been made at that time of the morning

Try should not, period. I have had calls at around midnight from Chad, though this was over a year ago.

Perhaps the office should make like an airport and hang up a clock for every time zone on their walls...

Sorry for being sarcastic. But this is a total no-brainer. If a Vegas casino called me to ask me if I would like a free trip at 6 in the morning, I would reply that I plan never to visit their establishment again.

Reminds me of "penny-wise, pound-foolish".
 
casinomeister said:
Okay.

Fortune Lounge had already processed the additional refund of $230 to johnnydemp's account before I received his documentation. This amount, together with the $1,000 that was refunded before is the full amount he cashed in.

Case closed.

FL did give him the benefit of the doubt and even attempted to get his bank to verify his card, but the bank declined to verify anything which left the casino with no option but to go with their original assessment and decision.

I hope that everyone realizes that this industry is in the fetal stage. Casinos are becoming more popular and accepted by the public as a whole; thus becoming not only more populated with good honest players, but hit up by fraudsters and syndicates as well.

Casinos protect themselves just as you would if you were operating your own cyber-business.

The VP of operations is now personally reviewing every single account that is locked for suspicious documentation. In the last few days he has already reversed a few decisions and had accounts re-opened. If anyone has an issue such as johnnydemp's, it will get his full and urgent attention and unless they are more than 60% sure that they have received fraudulent documentation, they will give the player the benefit of doubt.

As of now, they handle about 60,000 customer contacts in their call center per month. This is via e-mail and phone contacts. Hopefully this will put things into a better perspective. Players will have problems; players will make mistakes. Customer service reps will make mistakes as well. There are a few players that have been critical of my support for the FL group, but I understand that the small percentage of complaints (there will always be complaints) does not warrant being dragged out into the street and shot.

Responsiveness and cooperation are what makes a good business tick. I hope most of you will understand this.


I still think it strange that he wasn't notified about the reasons for Fortune Lounge trying to keep his whole deposit and winnings. I found a link to this thread after looking for some info on carnival casino on winneronline meassage board and came accross the 'unnofficial WOL blacklist' thread:
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A player once complained to me about FL. They refunded his deposit to Neteller finally months after he played but the winnings were never sent. He was even supposed to be in a Russian syndicate when he was actually in Canada. Fortune Lounge's explanation didn't make sense then either.
 
7 Sultans or Satans =s Fortune Lounge

Fortune Lounge is legitimate in that they do pay. However, I don't play there for several reasons. For example, they telemarket me by phone incessently and have I asked them not to do anymore. Unofortunatley, what part of no don't they understand. Also, they, like most on line casinos, never ever try to give you a member of management when you have a gripe , even when you spend thousands in their casino . I play between 4 and 7k US dollars per month in on line casinos as a hobby and win back, on average 20 percent. I gauge a casino more or less on how well they answer my questions when I call and how quickly they pay me when I win. My last criteria is how they honor their bonus offer. I try new casinos on their bonus. If they don't pay as they say, I don't play (their again). I have to say one thing, and I echo this over and over and would like Bryan to chime in on this one. Perhaps, we need some international regulation of on line gaming. Too much of this is like the wild west show (ie I get paid when I scream). I love several casinos in which I have accounts and a great realtionship with, including, Lucky Nugget, Jackpot City, the Havana Club, The Gaming Club, etc. Unfortunately, even in these great casinos, there have been problems. For example, Lucky Nugget sent me a a matching bonus a few months back( second instance by the way!). I didn't get it and when I called, the rep actually tried to argue with me that I applied for it an hour early. When I asked her if she understood Grenwich mean time (GMT) (The International time standard) and that I was in Florida and too check the real time, she said her computers were flawless and I am wrong about the time, even though I stated I was watching CNN International in real time had the same time I quoted her was on my televsion as we spoke,lol. (I wish this was actually funny to argue about time a bonus, HELLO!). Of course, she wasnt privy to see CNN interntational, lol, or so she said. After several hours and a few calls later, the final CSR I talked to laughed and said, we should give you your bonus, what does an hour difference really mean anyway, lol. She stated finally that somehow their computers were off somehow (HMMM). The reason I bring this up is this simple fact: I win in this casino often (it is one of my favorites on line for fairness) and they pay. Why in the hell do all of us have to beg for decent service; Isn't there in ISO or something like it that can be established. Perhaps, Casinomeister, you can set up a thread for those of us that pay and play and don't get management, to have to explain in detail (ie excuses) why they are so hard to get answers from, like CRS. It is a traiining issue pure and simple. In Japan and the US, your CSRS are your front line. I would request we set up a forum explicitly for customer service issues and why a casino won't divulge any Management information ( like how to go to the next level beyond the CSR , etc), except for begging or threatening to go to Casinomeister like I had to do with US Casino (who is fair, by the way, and I have played there since, even this evening ,but still wonder why they don't put management on the phone or offer a callback when requested and they are certainly not ALONE!). Perhaps, we need a gaming control commission with international power, regulated by the Hague( Lots of casino taxes, lol), or the casinos can get way better at service before they are forced to do so by governnments. Peace and beers to all.
 
valton: You are most welcome to contact me directly, should you experience any problems.

There is no reason whatsoever why you should not be able to speak to a Manager except that we are in the office between 08:00 GMT+2 and around 19:00 GMT+2.

If I am not in the office, you are welcome to mail me at vpops@fortunelounge.com and I will get back to you as soon as I can.

VP Operations
Fortune Lounge Group
 

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