Former Employee Says Online Casinos Are A Scam

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A former employee of a couple of online casinos based in Israel says they are a scam. These online casinos will give false information that they are based in the Caribbean but actually work out of office in Tel Aviv. He also has a revealing look into online pharmacies too.

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:lolup: So which one is it? Several casino groups come to mind - but there is one for sure I think I know who he's talking about. :D
 

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Really? Using Henry Makow as source material? What, Alex Jones on vacation?

I really don't think Henry is wacko as Alex Jones. But I do not want another derailment into killing the messenger. Either what "Saul" wrote is true or not. Take it for what it is worth (or not).
 

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This is Satanism at its ugliest ....

:eek2: As Conrad said, one need not look for the supernatural in such things:

“The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness.”

― Joseph Conrad, Under Western Eyes
 

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I really don't think Henry is wacko as Alex Jones. But I do not want another derailment into killing the messenger. Either what "Saul" wrote is true or not. Take it for what it is worth (or not).
Derailment? The messenger is a bigot, a misogynist, a proud homophobe, and an absolute whacko. That this "Saul" person, if he indeed exists, would bring his accusations to Makow makes anything he says suspect at best. That's not derailing. That's a big fat hairy red flag, "Caution! The following needs to be taken with a megaton of salt considering the imbecile who's presenting it on his imbecilic website.".
 

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Derailment? The messenger is a bigot, a misogynist, a proud homophobe, and an absolute whacko. That this "Saul" person, if he indeed exists, would bring his accusations to Makow makes anything he says suspect at best. That's not derailing. That's a big fat hairy red flag, "Caution! The following needs to be taken with a megaton of salt considering the imbecile who's presenting it on his imbecilic website.".

Can you provide anything that would disprove what Saul wrote? In my opinion, Makow is just fine. I'd rather focus on the warning Saul provides about online casinos he worked for and that players should do due diligence when they play on them. These online casinos are based in Israel and basically the ethics of those online casinos reflect those of businesses in Israel. As to WHY Israeli companies have those ethics (or lack thereof) is beyond the scope of this site. (You can click on the links Saul provided to go to those issues for yourself.)
 

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I have no idea who Makow is, but I do know that support for online casinos is big business in Israel. I know that stalling and delaying payments to players is real at some casinos.

I know that frontline CSRs don't know all the ins and outs of the casino business often. While a casino might be licenced in the Caribbean, it doesn't mean their support is located there. It's entirely possible staff were instructed to lie about where they themselves were. My daughter worked a call centre for a major US telecom company, located here in Canada. If they were pressed about their accents, they were told to say they were from Pennsylvania!

Credit card purchases ARE disguised on US players accounts.

And poor people that need jobs will work places that are shady, not only in Israel.
 

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Where is his article on HAARP, I can only find a couple on the Illuminati and new world order:mad:

I know there are many casinos that run support and processing from Israel, but not all of them are scammers. I would expect the 2 casinos he worked for serve US players, hence all the dodgy activities around processing. The link going to his article on the ethics of big business in Israel looks very much like the same ethics big business here in the UK have when it comes to dealing with customers. They too often get away with screwing a few extra quid because most customers will just walk away rather than pursue them. Crap CS is a major issue too, and often the cause of many people giving up when the business takes too much money, or provides less than they promised. Our government also tends to look the other way until the scamming starts to get out of hand, then they take decisive and public action in order to make it look like they really care, whereas all they really care about is you voting them back in.

This year, the energy cost scam has reached the point where the government has suddenly noticed and done something about it. They had to. Elections in 2015 and someone released figures that showed over 30,000 "excess deaths" due to the cold weather last winter, and are likely to be gathering figures for this winter which will be published mere months from the election in late 2014.
 

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This article cannot be taken seriously. The phrase like "Roulette players NEVER won" speaks for itself.
 

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this is easy. if you want to believe, then, believe and stop gambling. if you don't want to, then don't, keep playing. how hard it is? >:)

I agree. I stopped nearly all online gambling. IMPO if people really beleived this then they would stop gambling online. I think there are some people who would prefer to blame the casinos instead of just admitting thats what casinos are naturally designed to do which is take your money online and offline. I'm still not completely sure either way so I'd prefer to gamble at land based casinos until online casinos start getting more strictly regulated. I'm still not entirely convinced after the whole Speilo incident.
 

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The article should read "All Online Gambling That I was associated With Was A Scam"

If the author refers to effectively investing 100 and getting 95 back, then that's gambling, NOT a scam.

Fortunately we on here usually play at reputable sites and not the clip joints he was familiar with.

More hysterical sensation-seeking 'journalism'.

PS. Vinyl what the hell has rising energy prices got to do with this subject?
 

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The article should read "All Online Gambling That I was associated With Was A Scam"

If the author refers to effectively investing 100 and getting 95 back, then that's gambling, NOT a scam.

Fortunately we on here usually play at reputable sites and not the clip joints he was familiar with.

More hysterical sensation-seeking 'journalism'.

PS. Vinyl what the hell has rising energy prices got to do with this subject?

:lolup:

It's like the guy walking out of the ice-cream parlour, walking cross-legged, wincing and groaning. I asked him what was wrong. He said "Don't ask for crushed nuts!!"

I think that's probably more relevant.
 

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:lolup:

It's like the guy walking out of the ice-cream parlour, walking cross-legged, wincing and groaning. I asked him what was wrong. He said "Don't ask for crushed nuts!!"

I think that's probably more relevant.

:D:D:D Coffee-spiller...
 

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Why should he? Do you work for such online casinos mentioned by Saul in the article? What is your beef with it?:confused:

You don't think the article you posted smacks of antisemitism and stereotyping?

To me it seemed contrary to general posting rule 1.5 and possibly 1.6

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1.6 - No "Libelous" Posts. Do not make posts that could be considered libelous, defamatory, or posting merely to cause harm to another's business. Opinions are expected, but do not attack others with accusations of criminal activity unless this has been proven in a court of law.

I'll admit I have broken or bent the rules a few times myself.

The article you posted reads like soft-core 1930's Nazi propaganda. At the very top of the article is a warning to the world that the Jews are out to get you. You asked Swampwitch if she has anything that would disprove your article, I think the shoe is squarely on the other foot. Has "Saul" been sworn in and given this testimony in front of a judge?
 
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You don't think the article you posted smacks of antisemitism and stereotyping?

To me it seemed contrary to general posting rule 1.5 and possibly 1.6

1.5 - No "Offensive" Posts, Links or Images: Please do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, or otherwise violative of any local or international laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. The moderators will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not.

1.6 - No "Libelous" Posts. Do not make posts that could be considered libelous, defamatory, or posting merely to cause harm to another's business. Opinions are expected, but do not attack others with accusations of criminal activity unless this has been proven in a court of law.

I'll admit I have broken or bent the rules a few times myself.

The article you posted reads like soft-core 1930's Nazi propaganda. At the very top of the article is a warning to the world that the Jews are out to get you. You asked Swampwitch if she has anything that would disprove your article, I think the shoe is squarely on the other foot. Has "Saul" been sworn in and given this testimony in front of a judge?

So anything that might be critical of Israel or Jews, even if coming from a Jew him/herself, is racist and libelous? To me, Saul is a Jew who told it like it is, working in Israel for online pharmaceuticals and online casinos. He doesn't name the online casinos as others on Casinomeister have done so too. And Saul, who would know, already stated that Israel businesses and courts look the other way in regards to illegal business practices.
 

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you ever notice that most foods you have bought over the years are now in smaller weights and cost more? what a scam!:p

Yeah, called 'product downsizing'. Our stupid cat eats biscuits only. We do a fortnightly shop, and one £1.99 950g box of Go-Cat would give 28 portions for the scoop we use kept in her food container where we tip the biscuits, thus 14x morning and 14x evening feeds. PERFECT!
Only this morning, with 5 more feeds to go until this Friday's fortnightly shop, I notice the container nearly empty. I accuse kids/partner of overfeeding the fat little feline. I go outside for a smoke, and as an afterthought look in the cardboard recycling bin on the patio. Lo and behold! The sly bastards have reduced the box to 850g!! The price is still the same, and the box the same size. Now either the sodding cat will be on rodents for the next 2 days, or I'm going to have to go to the shop to buy another. Brilliant.
 

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So anything that might be critical of Israel or Jews, even if coming from a Jew him/herself, is racist and libelous? To me, Saul is a Jew who told it like it is, working in Israel for online pharmaceuticals and online casinos. He doesn't name the online casinos as others on Casinomeister have done so too. And Saul, who would know, already stated that Israel businesses and courts look the other way in regards to illegal business practices.

I wasn't aware that you had met "Saul". It's definitely more believable 2nd person than 3rd person.



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Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
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Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

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The article should read "All Online Gambling That I was associated With Was A Scam"

If the author refers to effectively investing 100 and getting 95 back, then that's gambling, NOT a scam.

Fortunately we on here usually play at reputable sites and not the clip joints he was familiar with.

More hysterical sensation-seeking 'journalism'.

PS. Vinyl what the hell has rising energy prices got to do with this subject?

Everything, my PC runs on electricity, so I am paying more than ever before to play the casinos:p

It also illustrates the point that it's a different "big business" here, but effectively the same type of "scam" as in Israel over online casinos, scamming customers, and the government looking the other way. I have noticed that occasionally the Israeli government raids an online casino support centre and tries to shut them down for running an "illegal operation", yet the vast majority are left to get on with it. It seems that the government there WILL act on occasion, and maybe this is when the casino operation concerned fails to play by the unwritten rules, which might be about giving a cut to the right set of powerful people in order for them to turn a blind eye.

This is not the first time an ex employee has come out making all sorts of allegations about a previous employer, and whilst they might be true, they could also be an act of revenge over getting fired.

The article seems to have been written by someone with a massive axe to grind over his treatment by the Israeli justice system, and is writing it from prison. This could provide a motive for expanding the issue to one of the entire country being run by "satanic forces" of greed and corruption. In the end, it seems the entire Jewish race is being branded as having the lowest ethical standards possible, which is a long way from the starting point of two companies pissing off an employee to the point of seeking revenge. We have seen this kind of thing before in living history, so it's a good job the author is in prison, and not in power.
 

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Everything, my PC runs on electricity, so I am paying more than ever before to play the casinos:p

It also illustrates the point that it's a different "big business" here, but effectively the same type of "scam" as in Israel over online casinos, scamming customers, and the government looking the other way. I have noticed that occasionally the Israeli government raids an online casino support centre and tries to shut them down for running an "illegal operation", yet the vast majority are left to get on with it. It seems that the government there WILL act on occasion, and maybe this is when the casino operation concerned fails to play by the unwritten rules, which might be about giving a cut to the right set of powerful people in order for them to turn a blind eye.

This is not the first time an ex employee has come out making all sorts of allegations about a previous employer, and whilst they might be true, they could also be an act of revenge over getting fired.

The article seems to have been written by someone with a massive axe to grind over his treatment by the Israeli justice system, and is writing it from prison. This could provide a motive for expanding the issue to one of the entire country being run by "satanic forces" of greed and corruption. In the end, it seems the entire Jewish race is being branded as having the lowest ethical standards possible, which is a long way from the starting point of two companies pissing off an employee to the point of seeking revenge. We have seen this kind of thing before in living history, so it's a good job the author is in prison, and not in power.

But surely you can 'predict' the future prices of energy like you can the AWP's and save yourself a few quid??

But seriously VWM, he's hardly the reincarnation of Adolf Eichmann! Bitter maybe, and just because he's in prison (IF he is) doesn't mean his opinions regarding the country and business HE was involved in are necessarily wrong, does it? Just as long as he sticks to the specific region and businesses that HE knows and doesn't generalize that ALL online gaming is that corrupt, then he's entitled to his views the same as us. He's hardly proposed a 'final solution' for jewish casino owners has he?
 
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