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First 6:5 Blackjack in an online casino I've seen!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Westland Bowl, Jul 18, 2006.

    Jul 18, 2006
  1. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

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    Oasis Casino recently changed ownership to BetCorp. Under the Oasis Casino umbrella there are 3 other casinos: Lucky Lady, Thunderbolt, and Bet Casino. Oasis Casino itself is scheduled to re-open on July 20th.

    Today I saw the first 6 to 5 Blackjack payout in an online casino, this being Lucky Lady. In their single deck blackjack game, a natural blackjack only pays out 6 to 5 instead of the normal 3 to 2. Their single hand blackjack game has the regular 3 to 2 payout. A 6 to 5 payout for blackjack pays less than the normal 3 to 2 payout.

    Have anyone else seen other online casinos converting to 6 to 5 blackjack payout????
     
  2. Jul 18, 2006
  3. Nobunaga

    Nobunaga Experienced Member

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    Online casino

    So why gamble at an online casino, like Lucky Lady, by playing a single deck, neutral shoe, with a 6-5 or 3-2 payout? Isn't it better to gamble at a brick and mortor, playing a 3-2 payout for blackjack, 6 decks and have the opportunity to enter the game at a rich shoe point?

    I've been considering gambling online, through an online casino that is listed on this website. I wanted to know why you would gamble online for blackjack, when you would have a better chance to win in a real casino?

    Nobunaga
     
  4. Jul 18, 2006
  5. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    What software is this??
     
  6. Jul 18, 2006
  7. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    This is a worrying development. These casinos should be boycotted.
     
  8. Jul 18, 2006
  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
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    Location:
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    You're going to get a fair BJ game at most casinos online. This and a few others are the exception, and are the ones you should stay away from.
     
  10. Jul 18, 2006
  11. spearmaster

    spearmaster RIP Ted

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    Although I definitely agree that you can find a better game elsewhere, the concept of 6:5 blackjack is not new - you will find these odds at many single deck games in Vegas.

    And I also agree - you probably shouldn't waste your time playing this variant of blackjack. I don't know that it warrants a boycott, though - if someone wants to play this game that's their choice. Surely won't be mine, though.
     
  12. Jul 18, 2006
  13. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

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    Bet Casino is powered by Playtech. Lucky Lady and Thunderbolt uses software developed by "DGS" using Java. I don't know who/what DGS is. Oasis Casino will continue to use what they've been using before Betcorp bought them out....proprietary software.
     
  14. Jul 18, 2006
  15. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

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    For myself, I just move on to their other blackjack games that have the regular 3 to 2 blackjack. But I certainly will let them know that I don't like that 6:5 feature.

    I certainly knew that 6:5 blackjack is now prevelant in single deck games in Vegas and some in Atlantic City at the brick and mortar casinos per Blackjackinfo.com but I just didn't want to see it come to online casinos.
     
  16. Jul 18, 2006
  17. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

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    I thought Nine.com (sportsbook and casino) offered 6:5 blackjack with single deck in their flash casino back in January of this year, but I can't get the flash site to open now.

    I do remember that I bypassed it and played their six-deck blackjack that offered 3:2 payout, though. :thumbsup:
     
  18. Jul 18, 2006
  19. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    We should try to nip it in the bud now. If these casinos get away with 6:5 cr@pjack now, then more and more casinos will be introducing it, accompanied by claims that the players wanted it in order to have a more authentic casino experience.
     
  20. Jul 18, 2006
  21. spearmaster

    spearmaster RIP Ted

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    I don't disagree at all - but I don't think the smarter casinos will be following any time soon.

    Easy enough to vote with your feet - play where they have standard 3:2 payouts for single-deck blackjack. Don't play the 6:5 game - and they will notice soon enough.
     
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  22. Jul 18, 2006
  23. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

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    An online casino offering both 6:5 single deck and 3:2 shoe games is no different than one that offers both European (0) and American (0/00) Roulette. They are offering two games with the exact same gameplay, with vastly different odds. If you don't criticize the casinos offering both roulette games, then I see no reason to criticize one offering both blackjack games.

    If someone is ignorant enough to take the game with the worse odds, I don't blame the casino for offering it.
     
  24. Jul 19, 2006
  25. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

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    I play single deck blackjack alot and it has always been 3:2 blackjack. Now comes Lucky Lady with a 6:5 blackjack in their only single deck game. They do not offer another single deck blackjack game with 3:2 blackjack. I'm sure that if they offered both versions that the 3:2 will be played alot more than the 6:5. It's hard enough to try to beat the casinos as they are right now. We don't need the 6:5 creeping into mainstream casino rules, imo.
     
  26. Jul 19, 2006
  27. andyhinckley

    andyhinckley Meister Member CAG mm3

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    IIRC i was watching a tv program about las vegas, and one part they mentioned that the casinos introduced 6:5 payout on BJ and the public "voted with thier feet". result after a few days of empty tables they re-introduced 3:2 payout. but i think they then used 4 to 8 decks of cards.
     
  28. Jul 19, 2006
  29. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    I was looking around to find out what this does to the HA, and found

    Anyone that plays under that rule needs to see a Psychiatrist, IMMEDIATELY :D
     
  30. Jul 19, 2006
  31. wangpoker

    wangpoker Experienced Member PABnononaccred2 webmeister

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    DGS = Digital Gaming Solutions?
     
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  32. Jul 19, 2006
  33. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

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    Yep, that is the one! Thanks, wangpoker!

    The blackjack screen shot, at the website below, is exactly the one like in the Lucky Lady casino at the Oasis Casino website.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    The live chat operator at Oasis Casino said that the Thunderbolt casino was also developed by DGS but it has a different skin so I'm not sure if the chat operator was entirely right in regards to Thunderbolt.
     
  34. Jul 19, 2006
  35. dickens1298

    dickens1298 Dormant account

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    Yet many still play it. Despite penetration at times as low as 30% (which kills any card counting whatsoever) and the 6-5 payout, there are still casinos where that game is fairly popular. In fact, on the Vegas Strip, you'd be hard-pressed to find a single-deck game that does NOT pay 6-5, and all of the 21 games at Hooters Casino pay 6-5 on blackjack (including shoe games!).
     
  36. Jul 19, 2006
  37. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

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    I believe Vegas is trying to rid itself of serious blackjack card players who know their stuff. Vegas/Nevada has/is heavily marketed(ing) toward the tourist-type who don't know the difference between 3-2 and 6-5 payouts and don't care. The brick-and-mortar casinos in Vegas have plenty of ignorant tourists so the casinos don't miss the card-counters and other serious gamblers. The payout change doesn't seem to have hurt them a bit. Besides, they come to Hooters for something other than a serious game of blackjack!:D
     
  38. Jul 19, 2006
  39. nafanny29

    nafanny29 Dormant account

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    6-5 BJ online = pure dirty greed by the casino.

    In Vegas when they first introduced it the tables seem full, but the last couple of visits this year I have noticed empty games. I think that word does get around that 6-5 is terrible compared to even an 8 deck "normal" game.

    I still think that if someone invented BJ today with the 6-5 payoff the casinos would even put it on their gaming floor, seems any new games they introduce have between 3 and 5% house advantage these days. Bet they hate BJ and craps being so popular LOL
     

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