Finsoft/Spielo G2 Games Issue

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jetset

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I would be astonished and shocked if the GRA made such a decision (not to continue pursuing the truth in this matter) because as this thread has so amply demonstrated, there are a myriad suspicious elements and unanswered questions around the central core of the scandal - cheating games.

I'm alarmed that the regulator does not seem to be deeply concerned over this fundamental trust issue which is so important in the gambling industry and impacts those purporting to be there to ensure fair gaming...like the GRA.

This thread and others like it across the internet is clearly not going to be wished or bluffed away, and sooner or later this scandal will be picked up by the mainstream media. That makes it additionally important to all parties that the regulator is impartial and transparent, and that implies the public release of the results of its preferably independent investigation.

The widespread conclusion that the OPs 'confession' is highly suspect is just one more intriguing issue in what is developing into a major industry scandal that needs to be nailed down, with those responsible sanctioned and preferably punished.

It goes without saying that the integrity of the games in question is suspect on credible grounds imo, and that operators carrying these flawed games should be showing their commitment to fair gaming by suspending or removing them pending the outcome of the investigation.

The critical question of making players screwed by these games whole again is also still on the table and should be a serious concern for those operators who have continued to offer games they now know to be unfair...are you really willing to take the risk to reputation that such a course entails?

Finally, thanks to Cylon and Richas for taking their interesting debate on cheating in general off to another thread - it was interesting and to some extent relevant, but a distraction to a very important and more specific discussion here. That was considerate of you.
 

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I am also disturbed by the wording of the OP's admissions, which is rather clumsily heavy-handed and does not seem natural or ring true to me; I would go so far as to opine that these look like words placed in his mouth

Perhaps the OP was paid off and 'suggestions' were made to him about legal action or suchlike if he didn't write a splendid confession, or put his name to one that had already been written.

There's definitely something that we don't know behind to that confession. Why would someone straight out confess to such thing in those words, knowing that they will get banned for doing so? What was the OP expecting?

It sounds like something that he'd only say to save his ass, even if it meant sacrificing his forum account and the credibility of his thread/discovery.
 

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CM - you've had more success getting the GRA to respond than me - can you confirm if they are still investigating or have we heard their last statement on this issue?

I've emailed the commissioner this morning.
 

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I might be way off track but the OP was refunded their losses correct which tells me the operator didn't know this person and wasn't aware of the ID fraud. Sister or whatever.

Even though the game didn't payout as advertised the OP knew this somehow, still could have won while playing the game. Since they didn't win, then it became a work in progress by pointing out how the odds weren't correct, rigged or whatever.

By pointing this out, the OP got their money back as I understand.

Seems like an intended game plan to me, I'm going to play a large amount of cash and if I win I'll collect a large payout but if I lose I'll point out what I know about this software and get refunded by going public.

I don't think the OP would have ever came clean if they didn't get a refund, not sure.

The OP found a human error, or software file error or whatever you want to call it and went for it.

Like I've said over and over there's no solid proof this was intentional by the software provider, or the OC and now it's panning out to be more fraud related and taking advantage of a programming malfunction.

I'll wait for the final results but it doesn't seem that complicated to figure out.
 

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I've been speaking with Bet 365 - they are still insistent on keeping their FinSoft games and as such will remain blacklisted on my site, but they have removed the free to play version of Aladdin's Treasure so there's no longer a discrepency there.
 

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Since this thread has grown into several issues - and I cannot effectively do my job as an administrator, I'm closing it.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, the GRA is dealing with the software firm. There have also been reports that there is erroneous information in this thread that is causing many here to make misinformed assumptions - thus causing undo harm to a number of operators. It also appears that the OP is much more than a multi-account fraudster. New information and developments are presently evolving which members may need to take into account before drawing any conclusions. If and when I have further information on this, I'll let you know.

When the GRA completes its investigation, I will publish it here.
 

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Just to give everyone an update: the GRA has mentioned to me tonight that they have asked further questions and sought additional information about this matter - so they may still be a way off from making any formal announcements.
 

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Just another update as promised.

Max and I spoke with Aaron for about an hour on Tuesday during the ICE and pretty much cleared this up. This issue is very complex, and due to the complexities, it will take a while for a complete resolution.

Before Betfred can make any statements, they need to wait for the GRA to review and reply to any statements made by Finsoft. Once the GRA has determined whether or not the software is in compliance with their regulations then Betfred will be able to take further actions. Due diligence is required by everyone involved.

And the player accounts affected will be sorted out once they all have been audited. Simply put, it will all come out in the wash, but it will still take some time.
 
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