Fictional question: you could win all you want, how would you empty the casinos?

[TheMatrixMan]

This is a fictional, theoretical situation. Every people always wonders what they would do if they would win the lottery or the mega moolah or what ever.

Well what if you would find out a winning strategy for craps, roulette, blackjack, videopoker, slots and so on. If you could win 500-1000 dollars or euros per hour.

Now this is a fictional situation and im not talking about game strategy.

What I mean is: how would you spread your gameplay and time playing over the casinos so they dont block you.

Would you play at one casino untill they block you or would you play at several casinos and changing the casino every 30 minute and playing 10 hours per day.

If you play at one casino untill they block you, you could win there as much as you want but they probably will block you if you hit for example 1000e or 10000e in total winnings. We are talking of a real game strategy that wins in the long run and not some software glitch. So it wouldn't be cheating in anyway.

How would you do the casino clean up?

Cons and plus sides:

Playing one casino at a time:
PLUS:
If you play one casino at a time, after maybe 2 casino cleanups and 10000-20000 dollars, you most likely are banned. Ok you cleaned them as much as you can. So if you play at 100 casinos and you would get 10000 dollars per casino, then its a million dollars, unless (see CONS)

CONS: If the casinos you win at are a part of a larger network like microgaming or playtech or something like that, then they might send a warning message to every network casino and telling that dont let this person register, he will win.

Playing at several casinos at a time:
If you register yourself to 50 casinos, you could play 30 minutes per casino per day and then you change the casino. You would play 10 hours a day so it would mean 20 casinos a day. After 2-3 days you always start again the cycle.
PLUS: If you play through multiple casinos, you could win little amounts at every casino and then when you multiply that by 50 (income from 50 casinos) it would be a large sum.

This way you could milk 50 casinos empty slowly.

CONS: Will require a lot of work regarding passwords and keeping statistics of your play. You would also have to be ready to create multiple casino complaint issues at casinomeister if 10 casinos suddenly wont pay you your money or something.



I know this is fiction but lets imagine you have some lost grandson of Einstein living with you and he would tell how to win. How would you do the "Operation casino cleanup"? This is like MIT blackjack team (except you are alone) and you do it over the internet, and you are doing it according to the game rules.

 

[RobWin]

TheMatrixMan, can you please send me some of what you are smoking for the weekend, I would really appreciate it

Remember: Puff, Puff...Pass

 

[Pinababy69]

Sounds to me like he's convinced himself that he's got a "system" that's foolproof, and he is absolutely positive that he can beat the casinos regularly. He wants us to tell him the best strategy to implement it without having his accounts locked. Okay, here's my advice....and it's free. There is NO system that will allow you to continually beat the casinos/casino games.

If he really is just trying to explain a completely "fictional" scenario, then I'm with Rob....pass the good shit this way man.

 

[TheMatrixMan]

Well the real reason im asking this is so I and anyone out there who reads this would be ready incase they figured out how to win.


I have played 3 years on online casinos and im on the negative but you never know... the matrix binary code of unlimited wins might be out there and someone might see the code.


Any tips are welcome

I have 1 desktop computer with 22 inch crt monitor, 1 Acer Aspire 150 laptop and one broken laptop with no LCD but it has 21" inch crt monitor attached to it..the screen area is 20" inches on both, they just tell the crt inches as larger than they really are... (I got this laptop from a "master of science" in engineering (diplomi insinri in Finnish language) person for 60 euros (I will pay him next week, I got this 2 weeks ago and he has no hurry). So I have 3 computers to use and 3 mouses to use. My main computer isnt so fast to run many casino windows reliably (athlon xp barton 2400mhz, 2gig ram) so thats why I can use other computers too.

I create regular backups weekly by disk imaging all my data to a 1TB hard drive. I also know computer security so there are no possibilities to hijack my computer (chance is 0.0001%). I know how to prevent rootkits, trojans, keyloggers, phishing and other badware. The computers are behind a nat/firewall. I change my email password from time to time and I dont log onto it from unsecure locations. I dont use Wlan or execute unknown programs. I dont use internet explorer or save passwords into firefox as they can be hacked.

So my platform is quite secure for online casino emptying.


back to the topic:
Does someone think it is possible that a casino would send out a hitman to beat up a player IRL who would have taken 10000 dollars from their casino? Or taken 100,000 dollars from the whole casino network? And they would want to know how he did it and so on? I know that russian related casinos or eastern european could easily do this. But they probably wouldn't even pay the winnings.

The casinos would have the picture of this player because you need to verify your account with the picture.

 

[chuchu59]

Now who said that: You can beat some of the casinos all of the time and all of the casinos some of the time but you cant beat all of the casinos all of the time. Now I am scratching my head. Who said that?

 

[TheMatrixMan]

Now who said that: You can beat some of the casinos all of the time and all of the casinos some of the time but you cant beat all of the casinos all of the time. Now I am scratching my head. Who said that?

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln,
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

 

[hitobito2005]

Does someone think it is possible that a casino would send out a hitman to beat up a player IRL who would have taken 10000 dollars from their casino?

No, $10000 is small change for a casino. A reputable casino with customers anyway.

The only way to beat a casino without bonuses is to find a game that has favourable rules or a software error/glitch. They might try to claim back some of your winnings in the case of a software problem. Favourable rules can be found, for example SDBJ at Boss Media has a 0.15% PA. It's a very slight edge but play this all the time and you will make a profit

 

[BingoT]

TheMatrixMan, can you please send me some of what you are smoking for the weekend, I would really appreciate it
Remember: Puff, Puff...Pass

I bet he knows Cheech & Chong
Smoking all week long.
The good old days.
Did you know smoking it helps fight cancer.

 

[TheMatrixMan]

In 2006 I started to create the ultimate roulette system and I think I have now created it.

Thats the real reason behind this thread, sorry if I now ruined the surprise that there is no einsteins grandson involved .

Player edge is about 80% or something like that, I dont know mathematics so good. But I cannot say my system or roulette will be removed around the planet from every casino.

And please dont laugh at me. You know, I might be the Susan Boyle of roulette. First they laugh then they want autographs.

 

[winbig]

I have devoted 3 years of my life into creating a working roulette system. I believe I have achieved it.

Systems don't work.

When are people going to ever realize that?

Go read the hundreds of other threads about [insert game here]'s system..

 

[TheMatrixMan]

Systems don't work.

When are people going to ever realize that?

Go read the hundreds of other threads about [insert game here]'s system..

Thats what i thought for 3 years.


If you give me tips how to clean casinos like I described in my first post, then I can revenge for every dollar you people ever lost. Its time to get teh money back from casinos!

I can make a fund and give 1 dollar to every casinomeister member who has lost to casinos.

I can tell one tip how I cemented this idea to my head. I watched this:

"Seether - Fake It.
part of the lyrics:
Who's to know if your soul will fade at all,
The one you sold to fool the world.
You lost your self esteem along the way.
Yeah.

Good God, You're coming up with reasons.
Good God, You're dragging it out.
Good God, it's the changing of the seasons.
I feel so raped.
SO FOLLOW ME DOWN.

And just fake it, if you're out of direction.
Fake it, if you don't belong here.
Fake it, if you feel like infection .
Woah, You're such a fu**n' hypocrite.

And you should know that the
lies won't hide your flaws.
No sense in hiding all of yours.
You gave up on your dreams along the way.
Yeah."
Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
Part of the lyrics.
This is so roulette lyrics you cant believe it.



I can see the promised land of my own apartment, fast laptop with dual processors, food for the table (everyday) and clean clothes. I have winners psychosis, im still in shock. I dont know how to compute, thats why I asked how do I clean the casinos.

 

[KasinoKing]

Now who said that: You can beat some of the casinos all of the time and all of the casinos some of the time but you cant beat all of the casinos all of the time. Now I am scratching my head. Who said that?

Er... I think that was me, wasn't it...?

 

[Pinababy69]

Sounds to me like he's convinced himself that he's got a "system" that's foolproof, and he is absolutely positive that he can beat the casinos regularly.

In 2006 I started to create the ultimate roulette system and I think I have now created it.

Thats the real reason behind this thread

What'd I tell ya?

Do I win a prize or anything?

 

[TheMatrixMan]

What'd I tell ya?

Do I win a prize or anything?

Yes. Do you want it with neteller or paypal.

I can send it in 2 months. I will first collect my first 100,000e. I can put screenshots into this thread as time goes by.

I can give you 1 dollar as a compensation from all the time spent at the casino. Im the robin hoood!1112

I believe next week my first thousand euros will be collected. I will start with a starting capital of 50-100e. I will get the 1000e from one or two casinos. After that I put that into new casinos. I have already opened a new bank account where I will put the money and I have ordered my neteller card if I want to withdraw money from the bank machine. I have also done a address verification request to moneybookers so my money transfer limit will be raised (its the 90 day period thing).



But I do not suggest anyone tries this, I mean to search for a working roulette system. Hahaha what a joke. You will waste too much of your life and money and I think 99.99% people will fail.

 

[hitobito2005]

If you want to create a "system", at least play a game with a smaller house advantage than roulette. Then by the time you realise it doesn't work, you won't have lost so much money! You're gonna lose 2.7% of every bet you make averaged out, if you play single-zero.

Have you thought about using Betfair 0-HA roulette? It has no 0 so you won't lose anything (or win anything) in the long run.

 

[TheMatrixMan]

If you want to create a "system", at least play a game with a smaller house advantage than roulette. Then by the time you realise it doesn't work, you won't have lost so much money! You're gonna lose 2.7% of every bet you make averaged out, if you play single-zero.

Have you thought about using Betfair 0-HA roulette? It has no 0 so you won't lose anything (or win anything) in the long run.

Yea I tested betfairs no zero roulette.

I started with about 20e and coinflipped +1 (I bet 1 unit on color and keep it at 1 unit and flip untill it goes positive) and restarted the game. I got it upto about 160e by that way. 20e x 8 = 160e, yea good profit.

After that it went down a unit but never got +1 again (because of errors) and it went all the way back to 20. It took about 10000 spins to go upto 160e and then back to 20e. It went up slowly but came down very fast. I think it was about 8000 spins to get upto 160e. Then 2000 to go down.

I read in forums that betfairs blackjack zero and roulette arent rng but somehow tweaked so they win anyway so i didnt bother to play it anymore. I did read that betfair has lost was it 10000e to some country with that roulette but I bet they havent lost anything with it when you count every country.

As another proof of this rigging the game stopped many times to an error. Not in the beginning. I coinflipped my way from 20e to about 110e. That happened in 2 days. Well after 110e, it started to tilt.

Here is an example how I played:

I have 110euros. I coinflip from 110 to 101e. After that it goes back up to 110e, then I flip it a few times more and it goes 112e. After that I restart the game. Then it might go to 113e and I restart the game. Then it might go 95 and come back up to 113e, all the way to 115 for example.

Well these errors happened always when i was on the downswing. I start with 160e, im down to 150e, ERROR.

Ok I start with 150e, get back up to 155e and I restart. After that it goes to 145e and before it has time to go back to 155, ERROR. I believe they have a team or a computer system that automatically creates errors for players if they are winning. If the error would not have come, it would have got back to positive. It once took 1-2 hours for it to coinflip back to positive but it came back. But then the errors came and you just looose, error, restart, loose, error, restart. :<

Then it errored all the way back to 20e and I said "fkk you ffkking sh1t casino" and havent played there after that. After that I went to some slot or something and tilted the 20e away.

Here is one screenshot. I have edited all information that they can use to identify me and the euro amounts I said in this post are almost accurate so they (betfair) dont go check every users history of game archives with no zero roulette and single me out:

So yes I tried the no zero roulette.

Its BULL****

But yes I understand, its a depression. Casino needs to make money so the executives have cash to buy a private island and a learjet that they use to fly there.

Heres a good quote:
"I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth; banks are going bust; shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter; punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.

We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. And we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be!

We all know things are bad -- worse than bad -- they're crazy.

It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.

I want you to get mad!

I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.

All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.

You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"

So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell,

"I'm as mad as hell,

and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"

Quote is from this fun famous video:



Ofcourse im not blaming betfair of anything, they are a casino arent they, casino always wins.

 

[chuchu59]

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln,
16th president of US (1809 - 1865)

Haha! Of course I know that. Just being a little sarcastic and reminding people that if we try to invent some foolproof system it could eventually backfire on us.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yes. Do you want it with neteller or paypal.

I can send it in 2 months. I will first collect my first 100,000e. I can put screenshots into this thread as time goes by.

I can give you 1 dollar as a compensation from all the time spent at the casino. Im the robin hoood!1112

I believe next week my first thousand euros will be collected. I will start with a starting capital of 50-100e. I will get the 1000e from one or two casinos. After that I put that into new casinos. I have already opened a new bank account where I will put the money and I have ordered my neteller card if I want to withdraw money from the bank machine. I have also done a address verification request to moneybookers so my money transfer limit will be raised (its the 90 day period thing).



But I do not suggest anyone tries this, I mean to search for a working roulette system. Hahaha what a joke. You will waste too much of your life and money and I think 99.99% people will fail.

I'll sell you my Treasure Ireland system for 50,000 once you have cleaned up at Roulette

 

[SlotMonster]

Yea I tested betfairs no zero roulette.

Now try BetVoyager's No Zero Roulette
They have Randomness Control and very good table limits for Roulette:
(Straight Bet) min bet - 1 eurocent, max bet - 100 euros! :notworthy
(Side Bet) min bet - 1 eurocent, max bet - 1000 euros!

Best Roulette limits I've ever seen!

 

[TheMatrixMan]

Thanks slotmonster, seems like a nice place.


They even have a jukebox with 10 songs to play while you win at roulette.

Omg. How cool.

 

[love2winalot]

Hiya. Glad to hear you are winning. But please post HOW you are Winning, after all, this is part of what this board is all about. What is your bet selection? Is it Static, or does it change? What money management method are you using? A couple of us here posted a while back how WE play, so feel free to share......

 

[TheMatrixMan]

Yesterday after I made this thread I had my first losing streak and I loosed 20% of money that I had gained.

The spirits who told me this system arent pleased that I came to this board. oke:

Thats why I cant tell more, not in 2 or 3 weeks anyway. I think the spirits dont like me talking about this.

im sorry:< They told me that after I gain 10000e, I can come back.
I know it sounds crazy but I dont wanna loose the money so I better do what they tell me.:Angel:
(and no I dont use any medication and im not typing from a mental institution).

 

[kmay87]

Ok, to add a tad of realism to this...

Let's say there is a way to 'cheat'. Bottom line is, the casinos are going to find out, and when they do they will fix it instantly.

Vinyl talked about the Frozen Assets 'method'. It worked until some muppet posted about it. Then everyone got involved, and surprise surprise the game disappeared.

Same with bots. They worked, and well, until the casinos found out. Now they are worthless.

Simple answer is: is someone has a guaranteed way of cheating, they will either keep it to themselves, or sell it for a huge fee, probably not to an individual but more of a syndicate. If you make it known - for free, as it is, by posting on message boards - you obviously don't want to continue using it, OR the casinos don't care.

Hence why Roulette Sniper and all the others are never going to be of concern to anyone.

 

[winbig]

Yesterday after I made this thread I had my first losing streak and I loosed 20% of money that I had gained.

That's why they call it gambling..."spirits" have nothing to do with it...

 

[Pinababy69]

That's why they call it gambling..."spirits" have nothing to do with it...

Nor do systems.