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Don't be rigged now

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Is it me or has the excitement and entertainment being provided dwindled over the past few years. A while back a £20 deposit would last a good amount of time and not the standard 10 minutes seen today. Features would occur more often and you had a 'good' chance at making a withdrawal. With all the recent rtp drops and new game releases like beetlejuice megaways proving next to impossible to bonus what really is the point anymore? Of course people will always play as the impulse will always be there, but i don't see the value for money on offer anymore.
 

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To add to that, these "high volatility slots" are not good for your ordinary punter to play. Sure you can hit some really big wins, but 90% of the time your blowing a balance on the likes of Primal or those horrid Pragmatic Games, Buffalo King being the prime example. Your either losing your balance or winning mental money, no real in between.
 

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Agreed. Seems like you need to have a streamer style balance to get any chance of achieving those type of wins, especially when it could take hundreds or even thousands of spins to land a bonus
 

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Would also be interesting to see what percentage of players make up the 10-100 deposit "low rollers market" and if enough of these types of players simply stopped playing, would any difference be made to offered rtp's etc.
 
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Part of my rant I just posted at BTG is partly this and I stopped playing last year because it is getting too stressful to play. I am playing again now but fighting to get your withdrawals processed, fighting with providers to play their games, technical issues with casinos and deposits gone in an hour or 2 with hardly any enjoyment.

I posted here a few times the same thing, smaller deposits would last you hours or days back in the day and you would hit bonuses/free spins frequently, now a $300 deposit is not good enough and you're lucky if you get over 2 hours playtime.

I say this even though yesterday I won and hit quite a few free spins on one slot and am at 6 hours of playtime on the deposit I did, lol. but in general, I hear what you're saying and from the looks of it the RTP's are going to go downwards. :(.
 

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Nothing to love at all about slots.

It's either a time passer at best or at worse a way to try and make some extra money occasionally.

I'm all for gambling and love sports betting, but I would never ever encourage anyone to play slots. It's a rigged turd industry driven by affiliates and streamers trying to rinse addicts dry.

Sooner the industry collapses and the less casinos about the better, and people can go back to putting money in sports betting which actually helps fund some of these sports to exist.
 

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Nothing to love at all about slots.

It's either a time passer at best or at worse a way to try and make some extra money occasionally.

I'm all for gambling and love sports betting, but I would never ever encourage anyone to play slots. It's a rigged turd industry driven by affiliates and streamers trying to rinse addicts dry.

Sooner the industry collapses and the less casinos about the better, and people can go back to putting money in sports betting which actually helps fund some of these sports to exist.
If the industry collapses how are you planning on playing Bonanza?
 

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If the industry collapses how are you planning on playing Bonanza?
He won't. He plays Bonanza "because it's there".
If it's not there, he'll likely spend what he would waste on Bonanza on footie, horse racing and boxing bets.
And possibly get more bang for his buck from it.
 

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Nothing to love at all about slots.

It's either a time passer at best or at worse a way to try and make some extra money occasionally.

I'm all for gambling and love sports betting, but I would never ever encourage anyone to play slots. It's a rigged turd industry driven by affiliates and streamers trying to rinse addicts dry.

Sooner the industry collapses and the less casinos about the better, and people can go back to putting money in sports betting which actually helps fund some of these sports to exist.
Please - you used the 'S-word' there, the 'A-word'.

If I may suggest 'Industry advertisers' and 'YouTube real-time slot players'.

Peace on you bro'
 

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Given the amount of these type of threads to appear of late, starting to think I was right all along when I first mentioned month's years ago how they play time had declined and to make a deposit last for a low roller was/is the ultimate struggle these days.

I've also noticed a drop in the casino/slots defenders replies so keep it up rigged brigade, we're winning, slowly but we're finally winning (just a shame its not on the rigged, once fair slots)
 

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Is it me or has the excitement and entertainment being provided dwindled over the past few years. A while back a £20 deposit would last a good amount of time and not the standard 10 minutes seen today. Features would occur more often and you had a 'good' chance at making a withdrawal. With all the recent rtp drops and new game releases like beetlejuice megaways proving next to impossible to bonus what really is the point anymore? Of course people will always play as the impulse will always be there, but i don't see the value for money on offer anymore.
1000% I done a little £30 depo this morning on PP it was gone in 7 minutes on 40p stake not a huge deposit by any means but it’s getting to the point that you know your gonna deposit and get zero playtime it kind of puts me off depositing the amounts I used to, I used to be able to get a good go for my money prob hit bust town but have fun along the way, now it’s either lose straight away or hit a few decent wins also the past 2 months when I have withdrawn it’s never above £180-200
 

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IMO, the reason why slots have become less enjoyable is because of one thing.....the exponential increase in slots that have what I would call "nosebleed volatility".
The kind of volatility that suits those with the "go big or go home" mindset.

To all those CM members who were here before the Megaways era, ask yourself......

How many slots (excluding progressive jackpots) were capable of producing a win of 100,000x?
What about 20,000x? Or even 10,000x?

Answer: Not a lot. Off the top of my head...Flowers, DOA, IR, Finer Reels.
And perhaps (at a stretch) Penguin Vacation, Irish Luck and Great Blue.
I honestly can't think of any others.

But now? There's an absolute craptonne of them. And let's not kid ourselves here.
There's plenty of us (myself included) who have seen screenies of some really stupifying wins and thought....

"Hmm. I wouldn't mind some of that"

And that's where the problem starts. You want a chance of a much bigger win?
Well, there's a price to be paid for that....a much lower chance of getting any win at all.

The bigger the big win, the more people there are that have to foot the bill for that bigger big win.

Players seem to have forgotten the price that has to be paid for those big wins to be made possible.
Players seem to have gotten so seduced/blinded by a slots big win potential, that they forget that the prices that have to be paid are:

much higher volatility, fewer decent features, lesser feature triggering frequency (in some cases),
much quicker bustouts and significantly less playtime.

Is there a solution? Yes, there is. Fine tune your game selection.
Maybe see past the big win potential of some of these slots that play tighter than a ducks arse
and go back to some of the older games from the pre-Megaways era.
Games like IR, Finer Reels, Playboy, Jurassic Park. Maybe even the re-trigger happy Novos.

You know what my favourite game is right now? Creature From The Black Lagoon.
A game that is "almost impossible" to win 1,000x on.
A game that is capable (on a bad day) of ripping you a new one and giving you plenty of poor bonuses.

But it's also capable of dishing bonuses out in bunches. Not to mention wins between 50x and 100x.
And you will likely get some decent playtime more often too.

What's most important? Winning huge? Winning big? Or just winning something?

Sometimes, you have to lower your expectations or "think smaller" in order to get more satisfaction from your slot play. Because bigger is not necessarily better.
 
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Mr_Slot5

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IMO, the reason why slots have become less enjoyable is because of one thing.....the exponential increase in slots that have what I would call "nosebleed volatility".
The kind of volatility that suits those with the "go big or go home" mindset.

To all those CM members who were here before the Megaways era, ask yourself......

How many slots (excluding progressive jackpots) were capable of producing a win of 100,000x?
What about 20,000x? Or even 10,000x?

Answer: Not a lot. Off the top of my head...Flowers, DOA, IR, Finer Reels.
And perhaps (at a stretch) Penguin Vacation, Irish Luck and Great Blue.
I honestly can't think of any others.

But now? There's an absolute craptonne of them. And let's not kid ourselves here.
There's plenty of us (myself included) who have seen screenies of some really stupifying wins and thought....

"Hmm. I wouldn't mind some of that"

And that's where the problem starts. You want a chance of a much bigger win?
Well, there's a price to be paid for that....a much lower chance of getting any win at all.

The bigger the big win, the more people there are that have to foot the bill for that bigger big win.

Players seem to have forgotten the price that has to be paid for those big wins to be made possible.
Players seem to have gotten so seduced/blinded by a slots big win potential, that they forget that the prices that have to be paid are:

much higher volatility, fewer decent features, lesser feature triggering frequency (in some cases),
much quicker bustouts and significantly less playtime.

Is there a solution? Yes, there is. Fine tune your game selection.
Maybe see past the big win potential of some of these slots that play tighter than a ducks arse
and go back to some of the older games from the pre-Megaways era.
Games like IR, Finer Reels, Playboy, Jurassic Park. Maybe even the re-trigger happy Novos.

You know what my favourite game is right now? Creature From The Black Lagoon.
A game that is "almost impossible" to win 1,000x on.
A game that is capable (on a bad day) of ripping you a new one and giving you plenty of poor bonuses.

But it's also capable of dishing bonuses out in bunches. Not to mention wins between 50x and 100x.
And you will likely get some decent playtime more often too.

What's most important? Winning huge? Winning big? Or just winning something?

Sometimes, you have to lower your expectations or "think smaller" in order to get more satisfaction from your slot play. Because bigger is not necessarily better.
I think you're spot on mate, since the inception of these ultra high variance slots (think lil Devil, Jammin Jars, DOA2 etc), people's perceptions have changed. They see the 50,000x screenshots and want a piece.

The thing is, the chances of hitting such massive amounts are remote.
 

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He won't. He plays Bonanza "because it's there".
If it's not there, he'll likely spend what he would waste on Bonanza on footie, horse racing and boxing bets.
And possibly get more bang for his buck from it.
Bang on. If it's not there I won't play.
 

myke35

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I hate those 'dead' sessions where your deposit goes up in smoke super-fast it seems no matter what you play. They seem to, at least for me, be clumped together too which makes me question at the time whether it's worth bothering anymore. Somehow though I persist as I enjoy the games & they pass eventually.
 

Reelsoffun

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IMO, the reason why slots have become less enjoyable is because of one thing.....the exponential increase in slots that have what I would call "nosebleed volatility".
The kind of volatility that suits those with the "go big or go home" mindset.

To all those CM members who were here before the Megaways era, ask yourself......

How many slots (excluding progressive jackpots) were capable of producing a win of 100,000x?
What about 20,000x? Or even 10,000x?

Answer: Not a lot. Off the top of my head...Flowers, DOA, IR, Finer Reels.
And perhaps (at a stretch) Penguin Vacation, Irish Luck and Great Blue.
I honestly can't think of any others.

But now? There's an absolute craptonne of them. And let's not kid ourselves here.
There's plenty of us (myself included) who have seen screenies of some really stupifying wins and thought....

"Hmm. I wouldn't mind some of that"

And that's where the problem starts. You want a chance of a much bigger win?
Well, there's a price to be paid for that....a much lower chance of getting any win at all.

The bigger the big win, the more people there are that have to foot the bill for that bigger big win.

Players seem to have forgotten the price that has to be paid for those big wins to be made possible.
Players seem to have gotten so seduced/blinded by a slots big win potential, that they forget that the prices that have to be paid are:

much higher volatility, fewer decent features, lesser feature triggering frequency (in some cases),
much quicker bustouts and significantly less playtime.

Is there a solution? Yes, there is. Fine tune your game selection.
Maybe see past the big win potential of some of these slots that play tighter than a ducks arse
and go back to some of the older games from the pre-Megaways era.
Games like IR, Finer Reels, Playboy, Jurassic Park. Maybe even the re-trigger happy Novos.

You know what my favourite game is right now? Creature From The Black Lagoon.
A game that is "almost impossible" to win 1,000x on.
A game that is capable (on a bad day) of ripping you a new one and giving you plenty of poor bonuses.

But it's also capable of dishing bonuses out in bunches. Not to mention wins between 50x and 100x.
And you will likely get some decent playtime more often too.

What's most important? Winning huge? Winning big? Or just winning something?

Sometimes, you have to lower your expectations or "think smaller" in order to get more satisfaction from your slot play. Because bigger is not necessarily better.

Really good post, people take note! this is exactly what you need to read and take onboard.

Im getting really bored of people moaning about slots giving no gameplay, constant bust outs and rare cashouts or they must be broken.

Then you ask them what game they playing and they say DOA2 on £3.60+ a spin etc LOL
 

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