Extreme and Brango, even Slotland - no more

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Hey everyone, finally pulled the trigger after months of "grim" and closed my accounts at these previously highly recommended sites. I feel the RTP has been dialed all the way down, and a $40 dep lasts an average of 10 minutes on min bets (and I mean . 08 on Wild Hogs on the rtg brands mentioned) with almost zero features.

I actually should've seen the writing in the wall for Extreme and Brango; they've been offering daily FS even w/out a deposit. It's literally a death knell, and tonight I just cut ties.

Hope everyone is doing well and able to cut ties when it feels bad, I know how hard it can be! But.. I can go burn 20s in the firepit and at least get the satisfaction of making smores. 🤣😂
 

Savatage79

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Sucks to hear. But I tossed those pieces of shit casinos long ago and I'm glad. Those casinos were tighter than a ladybugs cooch.

The slots might be boring but bovada is still solid as can be.

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Just had that the other night, one smack for 1500...and my 13k jackpot a few weeks ago, this place still actually can be fun ...if you don't play there labeled or if it's been a while maybe sneak back. I mainly play slotocash and bovada and I'm always able to pull cashouts every few days or other week.
 

nisosbar

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I also stopped playing at Extreme and Brango - first Extreme (due to some sort of mix up with my password, and instead of straightening it out, I just took it as a "'stop' sign" from the universe). I lingered on with Brango, but it was just so incredibly tight - so I deliberately messed up my password (so I could no longer log in) and haven't played there since. They were the first RTG to do super-fast cashouts, and they still do, but over the last two years, I never could really win. :(

I've moved back to Sloto and Uptown - Sloto is the loosest RTG slots and Uptown is tighter but still I get wins over a reasonable frequency. :)
 

Savatage79

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I also stopped playing at Extreme and Brango - first Extreme (due to some sort of mix up with my password, and instead of straightening it out, I just took it as a "'stop' sign" from the universe). I lingered on with Brango, but it was just so incredibly tight - so I deliberately messed up my password (so I could no longer log in) and haven't played there since. They were the first RTG to do super-fast cashouts, and they still do, but over the last two years, I never could really win. :(

I've moved back to Sloto and Uptown - Sloto is the loosest RTG slots and Uptown is tighter but still I get wins over a reasonable frequency. :)

Yep, been my same experience with those 2! They're solid. Can be really cold at times but they at least pay out
 

zreb

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I've warned people for years that extreme and brango have their games set to pay out terribly. It can be tough to be 100% sure from playing slots between terrible luck and bad games, so the real giveaway is their video poker. They don't offer the standard payouts, like normally jacks or better is 99.5% but at extreme/brango it will be like 95% payout.

Slotland is a weird one. Their games do NOT pay out like normal slots, they are more like scratch cards. So on many of the games you will never actually hit top 5 of a kind. Not sure if this applies to their new slots, but if you try just playing 2 lines on their older slots, every dozen or two spins you'll see the screen littered everywhere with the top symbol. But it will NEVER actually hit your lines on those games - your odds of hitting it are probably the same as hitting a 200k progressive jackpot, because it's often connected to it (but you don't qualify without like a $10+ spin.) The reels are just for show. They got called out for this (it was reported by the wizard of odds guy) when the chance of hitting a royal flush on their video poker games didn't match the actual chance if they were real playing cards.

Despite that, the games would still be playable if they have a reasonable RTP and distribution of results. They offer a once a month bonus with only a 10x wagering requirement, so sometimes you kind of wonder if they can offer that without their slots being complete money guzzlers. I tried playing that, a 150% bonus with only a 10x wagering requirement, sounds pretty good? Well, I went for over 200 spins only hitting a SINGLE scatter. I don't mean a single feature, I mean one total scatter in 200+ spins. It was so bad/bizarre I almost made a post about it. I didn't even start counting until I noticed it was weird how no scatters were coming. On a normal slot something like that is an impossibility. Didn't even bother with my last 37 cents or whatever and just left.

I think they used to be okay, but I really don't know if you're getting a reasonable game there now.

With that said, my luck is almost incomprehensibly bad everywhere so it's tough to say for sure. Bovada group is definitely the best choice if their games pay out the way they are supposed to. They sure haven't for me, but someone has to be unluckier than 999/1000 other people I guess? Again, if their games pay out how they're supposed to, they really do seem like the best choice available. Aside from that, there's still 3dice if you like their slots, though I think their promotions are a little boring.
 

Nate

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Extreme and Brango offer no wagering bonuses. You cannot do that unless there is some catch. Over the years, some RTG casinos have most definitely adjusted their average RTP.

My belief - and it's something that was discussed many moons ago - is that coupons have configurable RTP.

Play a 200% or 300% coupon and then try to play with cash or a free chip coupon. Watch the hit rate and RTP change.

Just my opinion ofcourse - No RTG operator will admit this. Unless someone can show me a coupon configuration screen, my opinion will not change.

Nate
 

Nate

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I've warned people for years that extreme and brango have their games set to pay out terribly. It can be tough to be 100% sure from playing slots between terrible luck and bad games, so the real giveaway is their video poker. They don't offer the standard payouts, like normally jacks or better is 99.5% but at extreme/brango it will be like 95% payout.

Slotland is a weird one. Their games do NOT pay out like normal slots, they are more like scratch cards. So on many of the games you will never actually hit top 5 of a kind. Not sure if this applies to their new slots, but if you try just playing 2 lines on their older slots, every dozen or two spins you'll see the screen littered everywhere with the top symbol. But it will NEVER actually hit your lines on those games - your odds of hitting it are probably the same as hitting a 200k progressive jackpot, because it's often connected to it (but you don't qualify without like a $10+ spin.) The reels are just for show. They got called out for this (it was reported by the wizard of odds guy) when the chance of hitting a royal flush on their video poker games didn't match the actual chance if they were real playing cards.

Despite that, the games would still be playable if they have a reasonable RTP and distribution of results. They offer a once a month bonus with only a 10x wagering requirement, so sometimes you kind of wonder if they can offer that without their slots being complete money guzzlers. I tried playing that, a 150% bonus with only a 10x wagering requirement, sounds pretty good? Well, I went for over 200 spins only hitting a SINGLE scatter. I don't mean a single feature, I mean one total scatter in 200+ spins. It was so bad/bizarre I almost made a post about it. I didn't even start counting until I noticed it was weird how no scatters were coming. On a normal slot something like that is an impossibility. Didn't even bother with my last 37 cents or whatever and just left.

I think they used to be okay, but I really don't know if you're getting a reasonable game there now.

With that said, my luck is almost incomprehensibly bad everywhere so it's tough to say for sure. Bovada group is definitely the best choice if their games pay out the way they are supposed to. They sure haven't for me, but someone has to be unluckier than 999/1000 other people I guess? Again, if their games pay out how they're supposed to, they really do seem like the best choice available. Aside from that, there's still 3dice if you like their slots, though I think their promotions are a little boring.
I recall playing at Slotland many many moons ago. Was playing 1 line on a progressive slot and the 3rd line was where the progressive would pay.

All the symbols lined up on the 3rd line for the progressive. Knew from that day on, their slots were questionable and never went back.

Nate
 

mush

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I'm just holding out for my monthly vip bonus, which is always a very nice chunk (as far as these things go anyway), but I'm still waiting at almost 1:00 pm when they are normally credited early morning sometime. They could be having bigger issues than we know....hope that's not the case, at least not until I can try and claw some of my losings back. lol
 

Deanna

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Weird, I just came on here to post about Extreme. I'm so frustrated. You're right, TIGHT. I finally won around $300 and it sucked it right back out of me. And then when I went back to the lobby it wanted me to log in again. Like I wasn't even logged in while I was losing? And now they are both down immediately, like I can't get them to even come up. I feel like I just played back over $300 to limbo where it wasn't even really counting. I love Uptown but waiting 9000 years on a payout is too frustrating to me. There's a limited time you should play if you want to see your cashout within 5 days. Ugh. I should have just stopped and cashed out instead of thinking "Oh, nice, for once I have a little money to play on".
 

BillyGoldblum

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casino extreme and brango message me non stop daily about their 100% no wager bonus.

Their returns are set at the worst of any casino online it would be good if everyone avoided these jokers. Plus their front line support is outright terrible.

Instant payments? Ya cause no one ever gets there.
 

Savatage79

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Weird, I just came on here to post about Extreme. I'm so frustrated. You're right, TIGHT. I finally won around $300 and it sucked it right back out of me. And then when I went back to the lobby it wanted me to log in again. Like I wasn't even logged in while I was losing? And now they are both down immediately, like I can't get them to even come up. I feel like I just played back over $300 to limbo where it wasn't even really counting. I love Uptown but waiting 9000 years on a payout is too frustrating to me. There's a limited time you should play if you want to see your cashout within 5 days. Ugh. I should have just stopped and cashed out instead of thinking "Oh, nice, for once I have a little money to play on".

They come pretty quick Deanna, I mean maybe it's just me but I'd rather play at a place where it's pretty regular intervals to win 1000 2000 3000 sometimes more and get it in 3 or 4 days than these instant pay places that are tighter than hell to where you can't even enjoy getting money instantly.

I've won so much from sloto it's unheard of to where people just dont believe a casino could pay out like that, but the catch is it takes about 3 days mayhe 4 to get it , but that to me is a pretty small price to pay..

Plus bovada is my instant cash outs That fill in the gap, so its a win win.

Uptown is tight imo, sloto is perfect tho, I have played so many casinos now and I still land at the 2 casinos that actually pay out and it works nicely.
 

BillyGoldblum

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They come pretty quick Deanna, I mean maybe it's just me but I'd rather play at a place where it's pretty regular intervals to win 1000 2000 3000 sometimes more and get it in 3 or 4 days than these instant pay places that are tighter than hell to where you can't even enjoy getting money instantly.

I've won so much from sloto it's unheard of to where people just dont believe a casino could pay out like that, but the catch is it takes about 3 days mayhe 4 to get it , but that to me is a pretty small price to pay..

Plus bovada is my instant cash outs That fill in the gap, so its a win win.

Uptown is tight imo, sloto is perfect tho, I have played so many casinos now and I still land at the 2 casinos that actually pay out and it works nicely.
Can you and other americans tell me if you have ever been charged a fee when being paid by an rtg casino through bitcoin?

I cashed out $$558 from richpalms but $200 was taken away because I cant cashout coupons but then I only got $328 in my btc wallet. The casino told me its $30 in fees from btc. Ive done lots of bitcoin between casinos before and have never had any type of fees when getting money. Is this normal?
 

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Can you and other americans tell me if you have ever been charged a fee when being paid by an rtg casino through bitcoin?

I cashed out $$558 from richpalms but $200 was taken away because I cant cashout coupons but then I only got $328 in my btc wallet. The casino told me its $30 in fees from btc. Ive done lots of bitcoin between casinos before and have never had any type of fees when getting money. Is this normal?

Well the casino doesn't charge a fee like bovada ,but coinbase does which is yea 30 or so. Normally I'll lose about 40ish from fees when all is said and done
 

rjb

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Just wanted to say I had 9 bonuses in a row on the wild hog game in which it paid zero.I think the odds of that would be astronomical lol.Maybe it’s just me but I have found that game to be unbelievably tight lately.
 

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RTP across the board has dropped DRAMATICALLY. Its why i stopped playing at Casinomax multiple bonuses with zero not random same slots over and over again, I migrated over to Vegas2web which at least the slots are totally random and more variety
 

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RTP across the board has dropped DRAMATICALLY. Its why i stopped playing at Casinomax multiple bonuses with zero not random same slots over and over again, I migrated over to Vegas2web which at least the slots are totally random and more variety
Which games on v2w would you say are some of the better hitting ones or most potential DG?
 

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Well it depends, I avoid Betsoft see older post on those unless i have to have a huge playthrough on a massive win then i play the betsoft ones cause most of those spins are losses they tighter than a canary blowing wind.

The Rival ones used to be great but they got rid of a lot of the games that had good wins that i liked but there are still a few of them. The Panda one is OK i have hit big on that one. I can usually cash out between 1k and 3k with Vegas2web with an average winning streak but at least with those slots i can tell they are variable. With Casinomax and the RNG ones at this point i can predict whats going to land. Whereas im surprised all the time by Vegas2web spins. Granted soe of them piss me off. Blazing Buffalo can be good and bad but when it hits IT HITS...
 

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The other reason i love Vegas2web is all the promos i get from them. The free spins i use to use up bad spins lol then i make a deposit to get the good spins. I avoid their playthrough bonuses though unless they give me a good one that is only like 20% i avoid the 30% Playthrough bonuses. That way any wins i have when i make a deposit without a bonus are my wins and dont go back to the casino. NOW some will argue rightfully that you have a higher chance to get bonus. Ive rarely seen this lately instead what i see is once you get close to playthrough its constant losses. I blame the ecomony and inflation (just kidding kinda sort not really) LOL

But this last year on my birthday i got $500 free play no strings attached i ended up cashing out 3k on it. So ya the VIP levels there do matter
 

pokerdan

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Sucks to hear. But I tossed those pieces of shit casinos long ago and I'm glad. Those casinos were tighter than a ladybugs cooch.

The slots might be boring but bovada is still solid as can be.

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Just had that the other night, one smack for 1500...and my 13k jackpot a few weeks ago, this place still actually can be fun ...if you don't play there labeled or if it's been a while maybe sneak back. I mainly play slotocash and bovada and I'm always able to pull cashouts every few days or other week.
I still do great on brango and extreme. Had some issues with my withdrawal last night though. There email was rejecting me from responding with my btc address.

I like that they brought back some of these old games. I do good on “Fortunate Buddha” Have hit the major jackpot like 20 times. I have also done really well on the new penguin game. Hit the 5 penguins quite a few times.

Wild Hog Lua is not good anymore. Need to move on and try other games. I still do amazing on plentiful treasures. Tons of bonus games.

This is are my favorite sites.

Bovada isn’t good anymore. I am hall of fame with like 900000 points or whatever and they took away all the promotions. No more 5x playthrough every monday. No more free spins and 15000 points. Now they give up to 200 bonus every 1-2 weeks with 35x playthrough.

Bovada sucks as of two weeks.

Slots.lv still gives a weekly crytpo bonus that is easy to make playthrough on.

I will stick to brango and extreme. I also like Vegascrest but the payouts take forever.
 

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