New Slot Announcement Extra Chilli, BTG

[EkJR]

They can’t turn around and say it isn’t.

But we all know it's not, false advertising surely?

 

[nikantw]

Don't you ever read the other posts? Don't you read about the tests and the regulations?

You can bet your house that if they say it is 50/50 it is 50/50.
When something isn't true they don't say it is. They simply avoid to answer directly.

What you experience is the "casino version of 50/50".
Odds are the same with a coin toss but the distribution of the results is completely different. That doesn't mean it is not 50/50.

 

[EkJR]

Don't you ever read the other posts? Don't you read about the tests and the regulations?

You can bet your house that if they say it is 50/50 it is 50/50.
When something isn't true they don't say it is. They simply avoid to answer directly.

What you experience is the "casino version of 50/50".
Odds are the same with a coin toss but the distribution of the results is completely different. That doesn't mean it is not 50/50.

Have to disagree.

Take the 60/40 wheel for example. If this was a true gamble then you would land, theoretically, 60 times out of 100 gambles. Can anyone honestly say that they have even been close to that? The statistics are against their argument that it's a true gamble.

 

[slotter999]

BTG have again insisted that the wheel is a true 50/50 and 60/40 gamble. Where do you even begin with that?

Do your own statistical analysis to either prove or disprove the claim?

Or.....write a pointless post on cm so the usual crowd can chip in with their usual anti-btg-but-i-still-play-em comments.

One of those appeals more to me.

 

[nikantw]

Have to disagree.

Take the 60/40 wheel for example. If this was a true gamble then you would land, theoretically, 60 times out of 100 gambles. Can anyone honestly say that they have even been close to that? The statistics are against their argument that it's a true gamble.

You are talking about the distribution.

 

[EkJR]

You are talking about the distribution.

Am I? Going by a lot of posts on here and on other sites there is a big problem with it then. As I said before, the 12 to 16 gamble, play on fun or for real does not play true. Even if it's out of 1000000 spins, do you really think 600000 of them win?

 

[EkJR]

Do your own statistical analysis to either prove or disprove the claim?

Or.....write a pointless post on cm so the usual crowd can chip in with their usual anti-btg-but-i-still-play-em comments.

One of those appeals more to me.

I don't play for real anymore and a good bit of that is down to this game tbh. Deposits made from the jaws of withdrawals

 

[Jono777]

on another note, I do know one thing for sure...

a cascading 'T' makes getting a cascading 'D' look like a walk in the park

 

[snorky510238]

Don't you ever read the other posts? Don't you read about the tests and the regulations?...

But the player just happens to always be on the negative side of the outcome.

 

[mack341]

I think BTG could have made a better, non tilting, game without the gamble feature, with 12 spins awarded for the bonus plus some +4 scatters and retrigger pots to enable rare 24 spins bonuses, a lower average bonus win could have mathematically replaced the losing gamble. If players want to win big they can always take a risk and play at a higher stake, but we'd still have a game that was much more fun for all.

my own gamble results for the wheel, the small number I tried it, are about 1 in 5 success, never gambled above 12 either as I'd rather have 12 bonus spins than none. If they had to do a gamble wheel they could have made it 80% chance on the first gamble and then 50% on the next and so on

 

[snorky510238]

But we all know it's not, false advertising surely?

It’s the same as a casino advertising a game as being hot. How can it be if it’s random. What has been should have no bearing on what is to come. Again that advert that used to be on tv (can’t remember the casino) it used to say we have paid out £40 million pounds this month. What they should have been made to tell you was how much they kept.

 

[paul7388]

Okay just to back up my point in the other thread why i never gamble the 8 now.

Was on WH there put a bet on for football tonight. Had about 7 or 8 pound left so went to games thinking maybe be able to wager the £20 to get £10 bonus on their daily match.

Opened up Chilli and was about to spin and saw the bonus buy was at £3.50 so went sod it just buy the bonus. Then collected 8 spins and heres the result.

Now maybe it would have paid loads more if i had gambled but i never so will never know. Besides gamble might have lost.

 

[Reelsoffun]

I dont have a massive sample size but the figures I have had are well within the expected variance for the 50/50 and the 60/40 wheels.

However I do strongly think that people are being tricked by there minds as if your wins on the 50/50 wheel dont coincide with the wins on the 60/40 it feels a lot lower than it really is.

For example you go through a rough few gambles on the 50/50 say winning only 2 from 6 then it starts to level out and you start winning those to then get bad run on the 60/40 so by the time you are "due" a few good ones on the 60/40 your relying on getting past the 50/50 most the time which then could have swung back the other way this is something the human brain will tend to distort as way below the average, when it fact it could be near to expected.

Im not saying this is the case for everyone but i bet it will explain some peoples perception.

Something else to consider is that its not the same as a coin flip 50/50 or 1/2 as that has only 2 outcomes, the 50/50 wheel as presented is 5/10 yes its the same 50% but with 10 choices for the RNG to pick rather than 2 it could make it more "streaky" in my opinion

To get a true guide you have to log each gamble wheel outcome separately rather than the whole gamble result as a whole, you then also have to factor in the standard deviation.

But it feels genuine odds to me.

 

[Reelsoffun]

But we all know it's not, false advertising surely?

How do we know its not? What's your sample size and/ or proof?

 

[sledge13]

I think BTG could have made a better, non tilting, game without the gamble feature, with 12 spins awarded for the bonus plus some +4 scatters and retrigger pots to enable rare 24 spins bonuses, a lower average bonus win could have mathematically replaced the losing gamble. If players want to win big they can always take a risk and play at a higher stake, but we'd still have a game that was much more fun for all.

my own gamble results for the wheel, the small number I tried it, are about 1 in 5 success, never gambled above 12 either as I'd rather have 12 bonus spins than none. If they had to do a gamble wheel they could have made it 80% chance on the first gamble and then 50% on the next and so on

To have a slot that let's you buy the feature and then gives you TWO CHANCES TO LOSE is just sooooooooooo wrong.

 

[Reelsoffun]

To have a slot that let's you buy the feature and then gives you TWO CHANCES TO LOSE is just sooooooooooo wrong.

No one is forcing you to buy the feature or gamble it IF you do. And once in a while you will get a feature roll in for 0.00 buy cost that is nice to know when its close.

How is it any different to the BIG BETS that can cost £50 on SD games that then give you a 0.00 feature? No different and they been around for longer.

 

[Spikie]

There is a new video on YouTube , not a streamer either .

£3441.54 from 20p bet

Looks like he had 24 spins.

That is 17200x

Wow !

Uploaded by Owen Baker if you want to see.

 

[nikantw]

Very bad video, looks legit but shows nothing.
What is surprising (or not) is that with so many months, feature buy and gamble, we only see one win like that.

 

[goatwack]

The video doesn't show an awful lot, not the win, just the final count-up

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Feels like the base game is great for wager. The wheel seems to be about 70-30. But for big wins I dont think its a slot to try. You have to gamble too many times to get spins and if you do get there, it doesnt mean it will pay. So the odds stacked against you.

Made it to 16 spins today which is very rare for me. 15 dead spins. And bonus paid 2x. Also got to 12 spins and it paid 8x.

So yeah not a very good slot for anything but try to wager

 

[Jono777]

After more play, its defo a fruit machine, no doubt now.

As for good for wagering, I have to respectfully disagree (for now?) maybe I just caught it wrong but it has destroyed my balance several times this weekend with large drawn out dead spin spells and when the ultra rarity of a feature came, with the exception of one 52x, they were all less than 20x

 

[shadow123]

Think the perceptions of winning and losing on the gamble really distorts our view of the fairness.
If we win , thats good, play the spins, forgotten.If we lose,ok, try again,lose,shit, try again,lose, double shit.
At that point iI think we are already convincing ourselves it is rigged when actually 3 losses on the bounce is
well with probabilities and should be expected along with a few 4s or more.
Who has ever thought it was rigged when winning 3 gambles on the trot.It can be infuriating when you keep losing
and it seems to happen at the worse possible times but actually riigged ? ,I think not .BTG would not risk it and have no reason
to do so.

 

[Jono777]

Not one, not two, not even 3 but 40, yes FORTY - "heartbeat" cascade attempts across recent spins / sessions before it finally dropped, well chuffed to see it was well worth the wait




paid £0.89

 

[shadow123]

you will be saying the heartbeat is rigged soon
I do like the arrows though,nice touch for those who have never
actually seen a T

 

[Jono777]

you will be saying the heartbeat is rigged soon
I do like the arrows though,nice touch for those who have never
actually seen a T

nope