Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

[kelapa]

id suggest tornado season, but everyone knows they rig the tornadoes

Don't rule out meteorites.

 

[goatwack]

Don't rule out meteorites.

This thread has transcended into something higher now.

Do try and keep up Kelapa!

 

[kelapa]

Yeah, I kinda want that meteorite now.

 

[Mohammadpatel]

Take it kelpa you’ve been winning on the roulette

 

[kelapa]

Take it kelpa you’ve been winning on the roulette

Been avoiding it like the plague... which is the only win you can get out of it anyway.

 

[Mohammadpatel]

Been avoiding it like the plague... which is the only win you can get out of it anyway.

Well said mate

 

[maxd]

If you play your cards right I might give you my penis tonight x

And I'll give you the boot right now. Adios arsehole.

 

[kelapa]

Quick question... has any claim of rigging - against any company whatsoever - been proven here?

 

[neilw]

Quick question... has any claim of rigging - against any company whatsoever - been proven here?

No. Or any where else that I know of.

 

[Deathawakens17]

Alright lads

 

[Casinomeister]

Alright lads

Alright lads wtf?

 

[Casinomeister]

LOL - Deathawakens - so scary. What are you? 14? Take a hike.

 

[syntynyt]

Quick question... has any claim of rigging - against any company whatsoever - been proven here?

not here, but history has proven that rigging the software for the sole purpose of making more money actually happened. ultimate bet/absolute poker, the owners themselves did it, the case is very detailed elsewhere. players concerns had fall on deaf ears when the likes of phil hellmuth intervened and assured of the integrity of the software. they made a lot of money from rake as the rooms covered usa and eu, but they aimed for MORE. they were only got caught because they were reckless not taking any smart measures in their gameplay and the video proof revealed it all, accounts that were able to see the whole cards of the table...if they knew poker and played accordingly and money would not took their minds, that could have gone for a lot more years...
as for evolution, i don't think they aim you personally like you tend to present, i always believed that high stakes online roulette must limit the exposure of the casinos against big losses from high roller players that after a couple of pints they go kamikaze betting and with a bit of luck may leave the bank empty. but im not willing to bet that low roller roulette is all random. for an online all time loser which took recoveries in the landbased, everything to me is fishy so i drastically reduced my online presence even after i recently changed countries and could play anywhere i want, online is smelling like maltese mafia cash grabbing tentacles.

 

[Casinomeister]

We have had proof of "rigging" or malfunctioning games posted here many times. Some have been more memorable than others.

One case in point: Mathematical Proof that English Harbour is cheating

There was another thread somewhere where Party Games had cheating software - years before they had their current software package, but it included screenshots.

Most of the cheating software claims are pretty old, and for software coming out of someone's garage, or the Ukraine - something like that.

 

[kelapa]

We have had proof of "rigging" or malfunctioning games posted here many times. Some have been more memorable than others.

One case in point: Mathematical Proof that English Harbour is cheating

Thanks. That's an interesting read so far (I'm at page 8).

The main thing I notice so far is that people actually went and LOOKED for themselves to see if it was rigged... except for "liquidsoap" initially, who then had to eat his words.
In this Evolution thread, everyone just laughs it off without trying their hand even for a few rounds.

 

[kelapa]

As for Evolution... I don't remember if I'd already mentioned the following phenomenon.

As I've already described way too many times, it's very common to go through an impossible losing streak at Evo's tables. No matter how ridiculously high you make your theoretical winning chance, once you're in the streak, the ball will always land exactly there where it will hurt you most.

That's not the phenomenon I'm talking about right now though.
Here it comes:

When the losing streak has sapped practically all of your, say, 1000 quid.. and all you have left is 2.50 for one final spin... then you will most likely WIN that spin.
Even if you only stand a theoretical 10% chance, the ball's bizarre jumps will suddenly, uniquely work to your advantage.

This happens almost every time in said situation.
To the point where, when I'm putting those last chips on the table, I can safely go get a drink from the fridge and come back to see my first win in 45 spins, guaranteed.

I guess this is Evo throwing the poor loser a bone, so they don't get turned off from gambling altogether, and will still come back for more.

 

[paul7388]

As for Evolution... I don't remember if I'd already mentioned this phenomenon:

It's very common to go through an impossible losing streak at Evo's tables. No matter how ridiculously high you make your theoretical winning chance, once you're in the streak, the ball will always jump exactly there where it will hurt you.

Let me see have you mentioned that before.

Maybe just the odd one or two hundred times lol

 

[kelapa]

Let me see have you mentioned that before.

Maybe just the odd one or two hundred times lol

Harrr, read again!

 

[goatwack]

'Rigged' brought me here

So, what's the latest

 

[kelapa]

'Rigged' brought me here

So, what's the latest

Not so much!
I'm reading through the English Harbour case (as linked by Casinomeister a few posts up from here), and it's striking how similar that case feels to the Evo one.

 

[aceking123]

some odd shite with their games thats for sure, im not sure why everyone seems to laugh at Kelapa , some of the game rounds ive seen makes one wonder how on earth it can do that, including some very very bizarre results , only seems to happen whilst losing though. wacky roulette with evo , you should try casinoeuro with its new roulette live games complete different provider AS or something seems ok to me.

 

[kelapa]

some odd shite with their games thats for sure, im not sure why everyone seems to laugh at Kelapa

Maybe too many other cases of people crying wolf.

I've done my own share of pointing and laughing at conspiracy nuts (anti-vaxers and the like), but some of the reactions here are just lazy. Skimming over extremely glaring ball behaviour, for example. Or putting it all on coincidence, or me being a sore loser, while the odds of these occurrences happening fairly are beyond astronomical.

Is that Wizard Of Odds still around?
Would love for him to cast his eye on this matter. (That said, I'm a rather qualified programmer myself, so I'd know a thing or two about odds and statistics.)

 

[TheAddict]

Not many people want to throw money at a game designed to beat them, which can do so in a rapid amount of time in order to chase a losing streak to confirm your claims. Even More so if they don't enjoy playing it.
There are (imo and a fair few others it seems) some dodgy looking ball manoeuvres youve posted.
But the extra long mammoth sessions of this constantly happening 20 or 25+ times in a row weren't recorded. So while many people might want to beleive you, its hard to do without backing up the most important of claims you keep making - considering this is said to happen every time.
Again, i want to believe you. Some of your vids had me wondering wtf just happened there.
Though you say its guaranteed that after a heavy losing session the last spin is a guaranteed win. Maybe it has been, but we don't know that. All we know is what we see - which unfortunately has not been much of all of what you claimed other than cherry picked few minutes (which were the weirdesr things ive seen on a roulette table, but then i dont play it myself).
So yes, people are left with making light hearted or lame jokes for replies since without those recordings or many others claiming the same, theres not much else that can be said.
Apolagies for not being able to come up with a lame joke this time either, bit tired.
I doubt the lack of taking you seriously is even due to too many people crying wolf over this game. It is the lack of evidence showing these statistically improbable sessions you claim to keep having on a very consistant basis. Im not suggesting you deliberately dont record them. But if they happen all the time, then it painfully hurts your case that you didnt!

 

[Borgie]

Im also confused at how it makes everyone who is playing lose at the same time and would need much more evidence of this.

 

[TheAddict]

Imo, similar to like i think duover suggested. One of the easiest way, i think, to enable multiple players to have this losign streak would be to slip in pre recorded animations at vital moments that spin the ball into the lowest overall payout number in comparison to whats been laid out between players. Though this shouldnt affect someone doing small bets in such a consistsnt basis.
In one video posted here, i spent 25 minutes watching a tiny clip just before thet ball lands. Focusing on the environment, specifically that hot dealers movements, trying to catch a glitch of somekind. I thought i could see something slightly resembling a glitch from the way she was breathing as the ball dropped.but then i was looking for it and they say its easier to find something thats not there if your brain tries hard enough.
However, after going over that 5 second part of the video, 85 times in 25 minutes, i just come away with one big fat headache for staring into the screen for so long!