Evolution "Live" Roulette is CROOKED!

pyst777

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Interesting, tell me more
You'll be able to tell me how long I can sit at the table, just watching, before getting kicked off. I'm forever having to log back in. Another thing - I never see the names of people who are chatting in the winners list after each spin. Are they all chatting while they are losing?
 

pyst777

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There are no strategy that will make you win long term in roulette, your only chance is luck. No matter what you do the house got the edge. Also I think you highly overestimate how unlikely it is for 200+ spins without a specific number. I wont link to sites showing odds for this to happen, but you can easily find it with a google search.
Maybe. It's not just a single number taking over 200 spins at most times. Sometimes it's three or more. Maybe it's not unusual. When I compare it to lotto draw results it just seems so remarkable. It's rare for any lotto number to take 33 draws to come up - I don't think I've ever seen it happen.

Try to get out of yourself that sensation/feeling that " I can win"! If you won't, it will keep destroying you for the rest of your life... Remember, that game is playing with you your balance and your mind—sometimes it will make you happy but for most of the time make you cry. Don't ruin your life, play it only when you have an affordable balance at small no risky stakes.
Haha, I'm too mean to let gambling ruin my life. I play really low stakes so little chance of me winning a magnificent amount. I just like winning a bit and making my money last a little bit longer. It does irk me that it takes time to build up a profit only to see it disappear 10 times as quick as it was accumulated. As much as it makes me sound like a sore loser I am convinced that the software makes an all out effort to recover any money won as fast as it can.
 

pyst777

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One of my current casinos is concerned for my welfare. They sent me an email after I made a few negative comments on roulette chat. Can't help thinking it was the negative comments about their game which they were more concerned about. I wonder if they send the same sort of email to silent gamblers who are losing $1000s.
 

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One of my current casinos is concerned for my welfare. They sent me an email after I made a few negative comments on roulette chat. Can't help thinking it was the negative comments about their game which they were more concerned about. I wonder if they send the same sort of email to silent gamblers who are losing $1000s.
Maybe you should be considered little at the point where you start to see conspiracy theories and spend so much time for trying to prove yourself that something like that exists. Maybe not really most healthy sign so think casino is only doing right thing if they are considered about your welfare.

Casinos facing many people who have really absurd theories how slots and other games are programmed to recognize players and work with exact patterns to make sure player lose much as possible etc... Here are few good ones in this forum as well. Trying to find such a patterns where they don't exist is typical for people who are playing luck based games, think it was called pareidolia or something, always some players keep talking how some slot is hot or cold etc... and make these patterns in head based on how that session is going.

So like you wrote, they have very good reason to be worried about your wellbeing, hope you have a little break, some fresh air and do something totally else than trying to find pattern from live roulette which really is real table with real ball instead of only software.
 

pyst777

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Don't be a jerk
Maybe you should be considered little at the point where you start to see conspiracy theories and spend so much time for trying to prove yourself that something like that exists. Maybe not really most healthy sign so think casino is only doing right thing if they are considered about your welfare.

Casinos facing many people who have really absurd theories how slots and other games are programmed to recognize players and work with exact patterns to make sure player lose much as possible etc... Here are few good ones in this forum as well. Trying to find such a patterns where they don't exist is typical for people who are playing luck based games, think it was called pareidolia or something, always some players keep talking how some slot is hot or cold etc... and make these patterns in head based on how that session is going.

So like you wrote, they have very good reason to be worried about your wellbeing, hope you have a little break, some fresh air and do something totally else than trying to find pattern from live roulette which really is real table with real ball instead of only software.
pfffft .lol
 

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Maybe you should be considered little at the point where you start to see conspiracy theories and spend so much time for trying to prove yourself that something like that exists. Maybe not really most healthy sign so think casino is only doing right thing if they are considered about your welfare.

Casinos facing many people who have really absurd theories how slots and other games are programmed to recognize players and work with exact patterns to make sure player lose much as possible etc... Here are few good ones in this forum as well. Trying to find such a patterns where they don't exist is typical for people who are playing luck based games, think it was called pareidolia or something, always some players keep talking how some slot is hot or cold etc... and make these patterns in head based on how that session is going.

So like you wrote, they have very good reason to be worried about your wellbeing, hope you have a little break, some fresh air and do something totally else than trying to find pattern from live roulette which really is real table with real ball instead of only software.
Casinos being concerned about welfare of player... . That made me chuckle.
 

pyst777

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Just a question. Dozens and columns rarely take more than a dozen spins to be hit and certainly not anywhere like 40 spins. Why is it that there are constantly 12 to 15 numbers which haven't been struck for 40 spins.
 

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Just a question. Dozens and columns rarely take more than a dozen spins to be hit and certainly not anywhere like 40 spins. Why is it that there are constantly 12 to 15 numbers which haven't been struck for 40 spins.
Honestly take a minute to actually check the odds, what you think is some big conspiracy is normal and well within probability.

And based on how you reply here and a casino flagging your behaviour, I think Slottery gave you good advice. Enjoy your vacation and consider taking a break from gambling as well.
 

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Every single event online is programmed so that individually it can be relatively plausible. Every sequence or streaks may be possible once every 100, 1000, 100,000 times which get near implausible but since there are so many possibilities it's still viewed as plausible, that's how it's made so that you can isolate every sequence and make claims that it's legit and if we stick to that, it is.

The thing is when you stop watching just single events but chain them all together and realize that you had 1 chance of 1000 to lose like that then to then 1 chance on 10,000 then 1 chance on 100 on and on in sequences that end up being possible 1 time in millions, billions, trillions sometimes series of event happening in loop have chances in pages of 0's behind 1 in happening and it 99% of the time happen in favor of the casino. The odds of it being random and legit are none. No provider, comissions and or casinos ever proved the opposite, it's all kept secret for "security reasons" so all we can have is a word that the company that wants our money is true which is hilarious when you look at what the company actually is.

I made my idea and tested it beyond limits just because i needed to know, for myself. It's all controled and compensated. We all get paid what we should but the computer decides when and how, what will trigger and what not. Every game, every action online is controlled and you can't beat the odds unless the system, casino, provider decides, for marketing reasons, to ship some special wins to certain people for promotion purposes and also for legal reasons to bring in as proof what im saying is wrong. Overall we just can't win, it is not unlickely, we just can't on a longer period win, at all. It's like throwing 100$ at a company that will decide how and when it returns you the 80$ they promised. You will never get more, not matter. In short periods you'll experience swings that give you a false impression but in reality you are always swinging down, always.

It's not unlikely, not because it's hard or bad luck, it's programmed to make sure it doesn't happen. No casinos or company would operate and have obligations and loans to payback if they had a chance, randomly, to be taken out of business at any moment. Nobody would operate that way, that's why landbase casinos have restrictions on bets size and limits that make sure at any time they can stop people from playing when they are losing too much. Online the limits are insane, any casinos could be busted at any moment which so few restrictions and such big differences between min and max bet etc. A random roulette with min bet 10 cents and max bet 50,000$ (often seen with btc) ... it would never exist in ever. Who crazy would let players martyngale with such limits it would be suicide. That's why landbase will limit to 5-500$ for example to avoid martyngale players too much room and limits meaning if he goes on a streak they can stop him from playing at any time. Online if it was random roulettes casinos would go broke so fast you have no idea. There's a reason why landbase true live games have so much restrictive limits.

It could be legitimate and legal if it was sold and described for what it is, it is not gambling it's a gambling simulation where the computer decides when and how you win, at their will. Then people would just spend the minimum for entertainment, as it should be and wouldn't go on stupid spending spree and loans if they knew they just had 0 chance to come up on top. Many players would also quit if they knew they are being played out. That the rips after the big win were not real same as the big win itself was not real and therefor why it was erased to so quick. Fake actions, fake wins, fake rip streaks, nothing random.

Overal you can't win. On paper your RTP will always be fine but your results won't be if analyzed all together same way if you flipped a coin online and it shows 50% rtp lifetime but you lost 100 then won 100 then lost 100 over and over forever, the total result is legit, the way it happened is fraudulent and impossible. That's how it works. Then consider it uses your RTP to give it back to you when you do things that are compulsive addict behaviors, in short they pay you when you do something stupid that will cost you a lot later on. They reward stupid actions and punish smart play. They make you win on certain games, casinos and rip on others on purpose. They guide you through your play and decide what you will like, what you will bet, the algorythm will figure the best way to extract the most out of you through knowing your finances and what you can afford and how. It will always give you back your RTP, but will manipulate you and entice you into betting always more, play more longer and deposit more frequently so that the casino edge if same in % is bigger in number so they make more money.

Everytime you do something smart for smart and responsible gambling they will rip you then reward you when you lose your mind on and on. They built a system that totally push irresonspible gambling behavior, reward and enforce it. But why is it still going on if it's so obvious? Simple, everyone is into it. Companies, persons, provinces, states, countries operate and tax gambling and use the same algorythms everywhere. So everyone is guilty of using this system... so yes nothing happen or change because no one with the capacity to change things is not guilty. The forums, casinos, banks, providers, affiiates, government, comissions, everyone live or benefit of it and is guilty of it. So nothing change, nothing will, you can just decide to participate or not. Play or not, deposit or not. I made up my mind, nothing will change, it's all bs and that's what the world is today. Every company, every industry is built to scam and exctract the most money possible and we all own directly or not some shares of them so we are all guilty. yay.
 

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Any idea which all governments are included this big scam, they could be named and shamed? These COVID19 restrictions seem maybe not to be good for people health, but thanks for interesting theory, maybe write it open bit more specifically what happen and where, how all different instances are doing their part and how exactly everything is done in practice? With detailed 10-20 pages you could open this up little bit more, now there's really just reading "I lost my money in roulette".

These theories would be much more interesting if these would be backed up with loads of game histories (should be available from casinos on request) and then clearly point out these occasions where these "one in trillions" scenarios keep repeating, With this temptation it wouldn't take many weeks to write prober story about this, backed up with huge amount of game rounds and calculations about odds something like that could happen etc....

If you have some great sure strategies to win from roulette, that cold be worth of good money, think there are not many existing where you are guaranteed winner (Martingale is not guaranteed winning strategy).
 

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I made my idea and tested it beyond limits just because i needed to know, for myself. It's all controled and compensated.
You sound like you've gone through a very detailed and logical process. It makes a refreshing change for someone to dig deeper and have evidence to back up their conclusions. I'd love to see the data you've collected.
 

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You sound like you've gone through a very detailed and logical process. It makes a refreshing change for someone to dig deeper and have evidence to back up their conclusions. I'd love to see the data you've collected.
Exactly what i would be very interested as well (like been asking from many threads same kind of data about slots and their pattern behavior which makes winning impossible as they recognize etc...), these kind of patterns would be relatively easy to recognize if people just could make that much effort that request some whole game history from casino and back these conclusions up by actual gameplay.

Maybe one day somebody could make that much effort that these cool stories would be backed by facts when there is no need to read these posts where everybody are not 100% buying all stories about casinos really high technology which connects all game providers and doesn't matter which games you play, make you always lose exactly same way.

This roulette one shouldn't be too difficult to demonstrate these one in trillion times odds. Requesting history of all played roulette rounds should be back it up quite well if poster here have been able to make clear conclusion about it, all the hard work done and easy one left, hope you still have energy for that.
 

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