Gossip and Rumours Evolution Gaming Rigged ?

[Guntis]

What is the visual sign of a heavy ball? I haven’t played a lot of roulette so didn’t realise they have different weight balls.

Usually, it spins slower, and when it drops makes less bounce and comes to rest not far from the first place it hits. Those who play frequently can also easily tell by the noise when it spins, especially in casinos offline.

I know such wheels in some London casinos, but there it seems like most dealers can land the ball anywhere they want.

 

[Kareva7]

All Gamblers say im clever when winning but say its rigged when their losing their pants. You can win on any table if your not greedy. Win and wlk out as i do and you will be ahead long term.

 

[paora]

All Gamblers say im clever when winning but say its rigged when their losing their pants. You can win on any table if your not greedy. Win and wlk out as i do and you will be ahead long term.

Great idea but most times when I play my sessions usually start with a losing run.

 

[hubbadubbadingdong]

All Gamblers say im clever when winning but say its rigged when their losing their pants. You can win on any table if your not greedy. Win and wlk out as i do and you will be ahead long term.

Clearly new or part timer !
Gambling doesn’t start until your down at least half your bank roll ! (joking not glorifying bad behaviour …..sry)

 

[TheCasinoKid]

Hi let me be clear. When you are playing on a live black Jack table. There are some things that happen to affect the outcome. LoTS of things. Multiple ways.
On roulette there are opposite magnets. What these magnets do is use reverse polarity to push the ball away like using two magnets to repel from one another creating absolutely no way for that ball to drop in the number with the highest amount and for that matter they can make it miss every number with a bet on it using this same theory and the input of the bettors numbers being wagered on.

I will not get into the black Jack game but I can also tell you that roulette dealers are told to spin the ball within certain parameters which will enable highest efficiency of the machine. If the dealer doesn’t hit the parameters they get a shock or “mistake” which will then make the dealer either more effective at determining an outcome ( without the dealer even knowing they are being used in this fashion)

Black Jack is way more intrusive. I’ll give you one credible way to check something. Go watch or play on a full black Jack table. If there are 0 empty seats then players will encounter longer win streaks.

There is your starting point.

 

[pLuckyLoserb]

Wanted to stop by to share my personal experience with the online darwin gaming company that provides the "live dealer" games for al the online casions. I got turned on to this form of gambling by a co-worker a short eight months ago. Needless to say, It's been a long tumultuous stressful relationship with these providers. Today, I said enough is enough and placed myself on my state's exclusion list to save myself from myself. Never would I thought that I would be that problem gambler, but I am here to say that I am and it's ugly. I have lost approximately 30k give or take, but I will live and move forward and learn from this. Just wanted to share my experience and attempt to collaborate on some of these claims as laid out in some of these posts.

It all started on the American Roulette table. I simply bet red or black with varying results. Increasingly I would press and martingale to attempt to recover losses. The streaks would somehow just get longer and longer and even sometimes be separated by several zeroes that made the streak last up to 20 or 25 without an alternate color. Occasionally, I would override my brain and say that I would simply bet with the streak. Bad luck would ensue again and the opposite color would hit. You lose again! I researched the videos with the 3 letter name dealer groups or the roulette guy using the simulators in an attempt to get better. Over and over, I would try the systems but low and behold the numbers that weren't covered would hit in abnormal sequence. I chalked it up to more bad luck and talked myself into persevering. Losses would just add up as the loss-chasing ensued. One of the most memorable episodes was when I would bet the dozen that hadn't hit in a while. The 2nd dozen didn't hit in over 32 spins. Anything is possible, but this is when I started questioning whether this was really as advertised as fair and regulated.

I discovered the lightning roulette next and would have some luck initially. I would play the whole board and then dry streaks would hit where the lightning would not hit for like 100 spins depleting my bankroll. Again, I chalked it up to more bad luck. I would talk myself into playing again. It was just a bad streak of luck, right? I would even try some of the betting systems on the lightning wheel to devasting results. The way the ball would seem to be controlled by otherworldly forces was indeed odd. There are instances of this on the tube video site.

Next up, Baccarat! Started out great and definitely was able to win some decent money. Then almost by design, the jaws of defeat would clamp down once again. It was almost like sometimes I was placed into a normal Baccaratt lobby and other times the Baccarat gods hated me and I would lose over, over and over. The video streams would lag right before the cards were dealt or I would see a natural 9 over and over on the other side. I would try to chat with the dealer using the chat feature, but it would take 3 or 4 hands for the dealer to acknowledge. Also, the shoes are not on camera at all times which definitely raises my suspicions.

Finally, I discovered the Football studio. Eerily, very similar results to the Baccarat. Constant video stream issues and improbable cards that would be dealt. Excessive repeating streaks that either end as soon as you bet with or keep going on and on when you bet against. Again, probably just me but you can't martingale into the thousands and they know that.

The moral of the story, is maybe these are all normal results and I just suck at gambling. I can accept that. But just a lot of stuff that occurred that I have a hard time accepting having seen with my own eyes. The darwin gaming company seems shady to me and I would steer clear if you are wagering any large sums of money.

 

[nfehily]

Wanted to stop by to share my personal experience with the online darwin gaming company that provides the "live dealer" games for al the online casions. I got turned on to this form of gambling by a co-worker a short eight months ago. Needless to say, It's been a long tumultuous stressful relationship with these providers. Today, I said enough is enough and placed myself on my state's exclusion list to save myself from myself. Never would I thought that I would be that problem gambler, but I am here to say that I am and it's ugly. I have lost approximately 30k give or take, but I will live and move forward and learn from this. Just wanted to share my experience and attempt to collaborate on some of these claims as laid out in some of these posts.

It all started on the American Roulette table. I simply bet red or black with varying results. Increasingly I would press and martingale to attempt to recover losses. The streaks would somehow just get longer and longer and even sometimes be separated by several zeroes that made the streak last up to 20 or 25 without an alternate color. Occasionally, I would override my brain and say that I would simply bet with the streak. Bad luck would ensue again and the opposite color would hit. You lose again! I researched the videos with the 3 letter name dealer groups or the roulette guy using the simulators in an attempt to get better. Over and over, I would try the systems but low and behold the numbers that weren't covered would hit in abnormal sequence. I chalked it up to more bad luck and talked myself into persevering. Losses would just add up as the loss-chasing ensued. One of the most memorable episodes was when I would bet the dozen that hadn't hit in a while. The 2nd dozen didn't hit in over 32 spins. Anything is possible, but this is when I started questioning whether this was really as advertised as fair and regulated.

I discovered the lightning roulette next and would have some luck initially. I would play the whole board and then dry streaks would hit where the lightning would not hit for like 100 spins depleting my bankroll. Again, I chalked it up to more bad luck. I would talk myself into playing again. It was just a bad streak of luck, right? I would even try some of the betting systems on the lightning wheel to devasting results. The way the ball would seem to be controlled by otherworldly forces was indeed odd. There are instances of this on the tube video site.

Next up, Baccarat! Started out great and definitely was able to win some decent money. Then almost by design, the jaws of defeat would clamp down once again. It was almost like sometimes I was placed into a normal Baccaratt lobby and other times the Baccarat gods hated me and I would lose over, over and over. The video streams would lag right before the cards were dealt or I would see a natural 9 over and over on the other side. I would try to chat with the dealer using the chat feature, but it would take 3 or 4 hands for the dealer to acknowledge. Also, the shoes are not on camera at all times which definitely raises my suspicions.

Finally, I discovered the Football studio. Eerily, very similar results to the Baccarat. Constant video stream issues and improbable cards that would be dealt. Excessive repeating streaks that either end as soon as you bet with or keep going on and on when you bet against. Again, probably just me but you can't martingale into the thousands and they know that.

The moral of the story, is maybe these are all normal results and I just suck at gambling. I can accept that. But just a lot of stuff that occurred that I have a hard time accepting having seen with my own eyes. The darwin gaming company seems shady to me and I would steer clear if you are wagering any large sums of money.

Follow your gut id say. I've not played roulette anywhere near as much as you have, but the amount of times my repeat bet was rejected only to then hit one of my numbers was enough for me to decide never to play "live" again.

 

[Arqa]

I'm not a professional gambler and no software expert. I see what i see..
In my opinion, the ball in 'auto roulette' sometimes makes impossible movements. I wonder how the control works. Does an inspector walk in unexpectedly or announce his visit? And if he leaves again, who will see if the manipulation is activated again?

 

[Arqa]

I'm not a professional gambler and I don't know anything about software, but I see what I see...
In my opinion, the ball sometimes makes impossible movements in 'auto roulette'. I wonder how such a casino is controlled. Does an inspector arrive unexpectedly or announce his visit? And if he leaves again, who will see if the manipulation is activated again? Or is he paid to look the other way?

 

[satchnz]

I'm not a professional gambler and no software expert. I see what i see..
In my opinion, the ball in 'auto roulette' sometimes makes impossible movements. I wonder how the control works. Does an inspector walk in unexpectedly or announce his visit? And if he leaves again, who will see if the manipulation is activated again?

You are correct, the ball doesn’t seem to follow the laws of physics. I strongly believe they do this to ensure the game stays within advertised RTP and therefore isn’t breaking any regulations. This also means you probably won’t experience the wild swings in results that you may be able to experience in a game of roulette that isn’t manipulated.

 

[yuu]

Can you go into more detail? How?Which games,etc?

He doesn't need to go into more detail
The ai study s your play and makes sure u lose , he's correct it is rigged
Been there learned my lesson

 

[The Reel Story]

He doesn't need to go into more detail
The ai study s your play and makes sure u lose , he's correct it is rigged
Been there learned my lesson

Yeh, cause companies love investing in expensive AI and complicated and unreliable magnet controlled roulette wheels rather than just letting maths make them profit ?

 

[Guntis]

Feck any automatic roulettes..., you play against a machine in addition to the game's house edge.

It's best to leave them alone or smash those bastards

 

[Jono777]

Remember that video mate lol.

Think if I hadn't quit land based when I did, that would be me one day

 

[yuu]

Does he mean the servers are being manipulated too? Don't BTG use Evolution servers nowadays too for their slots?

The games aren't live
Y but the outcome is predetermined
Meaning its true what the guy says

 

[Evolutiongamingharamihain]

Hi DonkeyEvo,

Firstly, can you provide any proof that you held the position you claim at this company?
Secondly, when you say manipulated, do you mean the games are manipulated in order to stay within the stated RTPs?

It’s your first post here after all…

<snip>

P.S. I wonder what Hindi is for "Fuck-off, you're banned!" ??

 

[The Dude]

<snip>

P.S. I wonder what Hindi is for "Fuck-off, you're banned!" ??

Sorry, but the grownups are in charge here. If anyone wants to know what this stable genius had posted, you can email him here: rg8096868@gmail.com

 

[john mico]

Well ideally send proof direct to Neil.

 

[cknt]

Sorry, but the grownups are in charge here. If anyone wants to know what this stable genius had posted, you can email him here: rg8096868@gmail.com

You (CM) is just as corrupt as Evolution Roulette and some people here (who obviously works in this corrupt 'industry' or are on their 'payroll'). You obviously get some 'benefit' from them and others like Winz.io; (thus my low rating of both CM and Winz on Trustpilot).
Do you really know what you're asking when you ask people for "proof"!? Do you know how difficult (impossible) it is for the average player, and 'average Joe' like me, to provide, and at what effort? When 'bad' (unexplained) things happen, but get brushed off?
Best I can usually do is to post a copy of a conversation with the relevant casino, which gets ignored by you too? Understandably, as you seem a very busy man, I imagine.
I've complained about Winz here on CM before (see post elsewhere), and now Evolution (Roulette), as provided to 10Bit, which must be just as corrupt as the other casinos which make use of their services too.
FACT IS, they all, at least Winz and also Evolution 'users' (casinos) are out to screw you, and will 'win' in the end. (And CM don't have the balls to call them out and tell us the truth; MONEY RULES!)

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SB says:Which terms and conditions? 10Bets'?
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SB says:So, please show me where those are shown/stated BEFOREHAND!??
SB says:It's definitely NOT in the rules...
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[Webzcas]

You (CM) is just as corrupt as Evolution Roulette and some people here (who obviously works in this corrupt 'industry' or are on their 'payroll'). You obviously get some 'benefit' from them and others like Winz.io; (thus my low rating of both CM and Winz on Trustpilot).
Do you really know what you're asking when you ask people for "proof"!? Do you know how difficult (impossible) it is for the average player, and 'average Joe' like me, to provide, and at what effort? When 'bad' (unexplained) things happen, but get brushed off?
Best I can usually do is to post a copy of a conversation with the relevant casino, which gets ignored by you too? Understandably, as you seem a very busy man, I imagine.
I've complained about Winz here on CM before (see post elsewhere), and now Evolution (Roulette), as provided to 10Bit, which must be just as corrupt as the other casinos which make use of their services too.
FACT IS, they all, at least Winz and also Evolution 'users' (casinos) are out to screw you, and will 'win' in the end. (And CM don't have the balls to call them out and tell us the truth; MONEY RULES!)

Sorry but unfounded attacks laughable as they may be, against both the site and the site's founder is way out of line.

Giving you a time out.

 

[satchnz]

@cknt yeah, we all get a cut of your losses.

 

[mulven]

@cknt yeah, we all get a cut of your losses.

I actually spent my cut on a 4 pack of double deckers

 

[andysbetting1187]

I actually spent my cut on a 4 pack of double deckers

I bought a Fredo - used to be 10p when I was at school (and much bigger). Don't even get me started on the price of the caramel ones.