Gossip and Rumours Evolution Gaming Rigged ?

[DonkeyEvo]

[maxd says: Please be aware that this person makes a number of accusations but never provided a shed of evidence. When repeatedly asked and invited to do so they simply left the forum without comment. Caveat lector.]

Dear community,

After working at Evolution Gaming for well over 7 years, as a Senior Software Engineer, it is now time for me to say goodbye to this company.

Reason for this is that the company is getting more and more agressive towards manipulating games.

I advise anyone to stay far away from this company and certainly do not bet big amounts of money there. While it is possible for you to win a small amount, to get you sucked in. You will certainly lose all your money over a longer period of time. This is because they make use of A.I. and some of their games are even illegally rigged.

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[johnnymcc1966]

Can you go into more detail? How?Which games,etc?

 

[The Dude]

Dear community,

After working at Evolution Gaming for well over 7 years, as a Senior Software Engineer, it is now time for me to say goodbye to this company.

Reason for this is that the company is getting more and more agressive towards manipulating games.

I advise anyone to stay far away from this company and certainly do not bet big amounts of money there. While it is possible for you to win a small amount, to get you sucked in. You will certainly lose all your money over a longer period of time. This is because they make use of A.I. and some of their games are even illegally rigged.

Those are pretty strong words. Please reread the forum rules before you post anything further.

Like this one:

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And this one:

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[satchnz]

Hi DonkeyEvo,

Firstly, can you provide any proof that you held the position you claim at this company?
Secondly, when you say manipulated, do you mean the games are manipulated in order to stay within the stated RTPs?

It’s your first post here after all…

 

[L&L-Jan]

You will certainly lose all your money over a longer period of time.

Nothing new, applies to all forms of gambling. Been having that issue personally for over 15 years now.

 

[Jono777]

Evolution...rigged, now where have I hear that before ...??

In all seriousness though, would love to see posted proof, never trusted this organisation and never will. I do think the OP will find a horse head on his pillow long before we get to see any proof however.

 

[neilw]

Welcome to Casinomeister.

That is some first post.

Let me get the right. You worked for Evolution for 7 years in the role of Senior Software Engineer and were presumably responsible for implementing the code you say is being used to manipulate the games illegally. But you only chose now to reveal this after 7 years?

As a community, we have been long been awaiting the arrival of someone that could provide evidence of Evolution games being rigged. Presumably, you have more than just words to back up your claims.

What games are you referring to, as most of the games are "live" and don't need code to determine the result?

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Welcome to Casinomeister.

That is some first post.

Let me get the right. You worked for Evolution for 7 years in the role of Senior Software Engineer and were presumably responsible for implementing the code you say is being used to manipulate the games illegally. But you only chose now to reveal this after 7 years?

As a community, we have been long been awaiting the arrival of someone that could provide evidence of Evolution games being rigged. Presumably, you have more than just words to back up your claims.

What games are you referring to, as most of the games are "live" and don't need code to determine the result?

Does he mean the servers are being manipulated too? Don't BTG use Evolution servers nowadays too for their slots?

 

[neilw]

Does he mean the servers are being manipulated too? Don't BTG use Evolution servers nowadays too for their slots?

I think the OP needs to be clear about which games, as Evolution is more than a Live Casino company now, with BTG and Netent part of them.

But as CM says, it may not be wise to show the evidence on a public forum. Perhaps he should PM it to CM or myself.

 

[DonkeyEvo]

Welcome to Casinomeister.

That is some first post.

Let me get the right. You worked for Evolution for 7 years in the role of Senior Software Engineer and were presumably responsible for implementing the code you say is being used to manipulate the games illegally. But you only chose now to reveal this after 7 years?

As a community, we have been long been awaiting the arrival of someone that could provide evidence of Evolution games being rigged. Presumably, you have more than just words to back up your claims.

What games are you referring to, as most of the games are "live" and don't need code to determine the result?

Well, you might think that none of the live games requires code, thats not the case.
In fact, let me tell you, all of their live games are ran by highly sophisticated scripts, they also adapt to your playing style. (yes thats right, wheel games, lightning roulette, and other live game shows).

Anyone with a excellent knowledge of Javascript, can DM me so I can prove myself.

 

[DonkeyEvo]

Those are pretty strong words. Please reread the forum rules before you post anything further.

Like this one:

And this one:

Im sorry, please feel free to remove my post

 

[The Dude]

Actually, I think the cat's already out of the bag.

 

[DonkeyEvo]

Actually, I think the cat's already out of the bag.

Sure, if you want to keep surpressing the truth, go ahead, its really what this industry needs more of.

 

[goatwack]

It's just great to see a whistleblower finally expose those bent gits

 

[neilw]

Well, you might think that none of the live games requires code, thats not the case.
In fact, let me tell you, all of their live games are ran by highly sophisticated scripts, they also adapt to your playing style. (yes thats right, wheel games, lightning roulette, and other live game shows).

Anyone with a excellent knowledge of Javascript, can DM me so I can prove myself.

Before we get into this and look at the code, can we establish some things for the thread's sake, as it's one thing to script games and have code to enhance the player experience and another thing to control the outcome and result of a game?

Are we just talking about the "Live" and "Live RNG" games?
Are we talking about the result of a game being manipulated, so it's in favour of the House?
What part of the game is being manipulated? Is it just the RNG elements, physical elements and or the final result?
You mention Lightning Roulette, Wheel Games and Game shows - is it the whole of the games or part of them?

It would be helpful if you could take one game and explain the process of how the game is being manipulated and rigged. Step us through the process of what is happening, so we can understand the extent of your allegations.

 

[nfehily]

Mmmmmm, should I click the 'watch tab?
Hell yes!

 

[Jono777]

Before we go any further, we will have NO PM's no DM's in fact no M's of any description

This thread will do just fine thank you very much

 

[trees]

i been stolen by them for years and never stopped and allways try to win back and never happen.
i feel exactly as what he wrote.
the more number u cover at the roulette the sooner it finds the empty spot.
before evolution came there were also live roulette those feels more natural.
like how the spin just goes.
now it bounce allways out of the part i bet and lands on the lowest bet or empty part. especially when u cover alot of numbers.
what can we do? nothing!! and even the regulators say they are legit!!
there is no way it is legit not evolution,, not pragmatic ... not playtech.
they run the same way.

if i go to landbase casino i have lot more chances on the roulette!!!!
how the ball sometimes moves is just impossible..
they look in a way that u think that it is natural way but it isnt!

 

[Sasukdcf]

i used to play the wheel games (mainly monopoly ) and stopped after a very lucky hit netted me 15K plus change....

but the cycles they go in defied variance day in day out and even though I dont think its evolution the alice in wonderland wheel, blatantly appears to speed up or slow down mid spin.... and IMHO is controlled.... and would be easy to do as would the people spinning it be able to hit positions after limited practice without doubt (on wheel games not roulette )

 

[Jono777]

When I worked land based I could on a good day 7/10 hit a section of 7-8 numbers and a really good day I could often spin into 3-4 number sections and had even spun exact numbers....honestly this was however after 2 years of working 40h a week on roulette.

Hold on back in a sec, phones ringing, oh its a Stockholm area code....?.....?....?

 

[Lemon]

Finally someone has lifted the lid and provided the irrefutable DNA evidence many for so long have craved...

 

[neilw]

Finally someone has lifted the lid and provided the irrefutable DNA evidence many for so long have craved...

No one has provided anything yet!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Live games adapt to your playing style???

What about all the other players all over the world betting on the same game?? All on different numbers?? Does the game adapt to those as well?

Perhaps everybody gets their own video feed to fuck them over??

Or perhaps the game quickly works out the lowest payout across the board and delivers that number?? Which of course would mean thousands still win regardless?? Not affecting anybody’s individual session.

I don’t know why they just don’t go full ham and spin the ball out of the wheel onto the floor every spin.

Jeeez

 

[mack341]

Ladbrokes have really pushed those live wheel games ... I've never understood the appeal, also they're probably a magnet for martingale tactics.

With natural momentum not sure how you could control the wheel to land exactly where you wanted it, possibly the spin power is controlled mechanically by a computer rather than actually relying on the presenter's heave, then the force could be calculated and varied to land where you wanted, that though would seem to conflict with what you see, which is the presenter applying all the force.

 

[goatwack]

For weeks, maybe months I'd been placing bets on what you'd call my 'lucky number'. Yet it baffled me how with the law of averages, this accursed bet just wouldn't drop for me on Roulette, even the French version.

Turns out I'd been placing them on 37! A number that apparently only I could see!

Punters were just helping themselves to my money when I wasn't looking, the feckers. Rigged!!