Baptism by Fire - success Eurolotto is coming on board!

[Casinomeister]

Let's welcome Eurolotto to the the BBF section! Sister site to the accredited Cherry Casino - I'm sure they will be a fine addition to the Accredited Section. Fast tracked to 30 days.

What makes this site different from the others is that not only do they host slot games but they have - you guessed it - lottery tickets you can purchase!

You can check them out here:
https://casinomeister.com/static/goto.php?c=eurolotto

Their rep, Helen, is here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/29337/

If you have any questions or comments, please post them here.

 

[Harry_BKK]

A few things Bryan:

Welcome 100% Bonus Terms

You are not permitted to place bets of 25% or more of your total balance on a single game round, when completing wagering requirements towards a bonus. Players exceeding this limit could potentially have their bonus and potential winnings applicable to the bonus removed

I understand the clause like this:

balance - 10$ - max bet 2.50
balance - 1$ - max bet 0.25!!!!

So i have to constantly reduce my bets to stay within the terms. It should be worded: " 25% of your total starting balance or "25% of your total bonus amount'

Bonus Terms

Only wagers made with Bonus Funds will contribute towards the wagering requirement. Wagers made with Real Money will not count towards the wagering requirement.

I find this term unacceptable, specifically because they do not allow withdrawals if the bonus money has not been touched.

I understand that only bonus money contributes to wagering but then please let me withdraw my winnings if i haven't touched the bonus chips.


Might have some more later when i have time to read the T&C's properly but got some work to do right now

 

[hedgehok]

A few things Bryan:

Welcome 100% Bonus Terms


I understand the clause like this:

balance - 10$ - max bet 2.50
balance - 1$ - max bet 0.25!!!!

So i have to constantly reduce my bets to stay within the terms. It should be worded: " 25% of your total starting balance or "25% of your total bonus amount'

Bonus Terms


I find this term unacceptable, specifically because they do not allow withdrawals if the bonus money has not been touched.

I understand that only bonus money contributes to wagering but then please let me withdraw my winnings if i haven't touched the bonus chips.


Might have some more later when i have time to read the T&C's properly but got some work to do right now

When I played at Euroslots (their sister casino) I was able to withdraw my total balance minus bonus if I haven't touched any bonus funds (like for example V&J, MrGreen or LeoVegas).

I agree that it should be reworded to "25% of the initial bonus balance or €5 (€0.50 per line) whichever is lower" for the welcome bonus. AFAIK every bonus has it's own terms which you can check in your account.

 

[randomiam]

I swear eurolotto had the same postal addy as a rouge outfit or two from way back.remember doing a search for a guy who got ripped off and they came up being in same location .i may be confused..

 

[HelenT]

Hello everyone! We're super happy to be here, thanks for having us Casinomeister

It’s nice to see that we already have members checking out EuroLotto - we're going to make our best efforts to take the feedback on board!

So, thanks to Harry_BKK for the first comments.

We offer a lot of targeted and personalised loyalty offers to players with terms that suit their specific level of play… But we have the specific terms you highlighted in place (especially for on-site promotions) in order to allow us to offer the widest range of bonuses to all levels of players, new and existing - in the fairest way and without excluding any games.

However, I take your point on board and will look at the wording of this with the casino team. We want our bonuses to be friendly, fair and clear!

With regards to the bonus terms; as Hedgehok stated too; we DO allow withdrawals of winnings, as long as the bonus money has not been used and wagering reqs. fulfilled.

The feedback is much appreciated,

Wishing you luck

Helen

 

[HelenT]

I swear eurolotto had the same postal addy as a rouge outfit or two from way back.remember doing a search for a guy who got ripped off and they came up being in same location .i may be confused..

Hi there! I'm not aware of any old or unresolved issues for the EuroLotto brand...and our company hasn't been classed as "rogue" But there are many companies in the same location as us though (unsure whether you're looking at exact postal address). Please don't hesitate to let me know if there is anything else I can help with, thanks randomiam!

 

[slotsgeek]

Site looks good, how does it work do you get the lottery tickets in paper of just online like the scratch cards and other games?

 

[HelenT]

Hi there slotsgeek! Thanks for the compliment There are no paper tickets, it's all a quick and simple online transaction - as easy as playing online scratch for sure!

• You can pick your numbers (exactly like you would do offline) See the
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  number picker for example.
• Add your tickets to the cart
• Once you've checked out, you can see your confirmed lotto tickets in your account under "My Tickets" - please see examples attached. You do have the option to print the tickets if you like too.

Good luck!

Site looks good, how does it work do you get the lottery tickets in paper of just online like the scratch cards and other games?

 

[slotsgeek]

Ok thanks for the info Helent

 

[randomiam]

Hi there! I'm not aware of any old or unresolved issues for the EuroLotto brand...and our company hasn't been classed as "rogue" But there are many companies in the same location as us though (unsure whether you're looking at exact postal address). Please don't hesitate to let me know if there is anything else I can help with, thanks randomiam!

was not your company just one that was same building was a casino brand that's all i remember.

 

[brianmon]

With regards to the bonus terms; as Hedgehok stated too; we DO allow withdrawals of winnings, as long as the bonus money has not been used and wagering reqs. fulfilled.

AND the wagering reqs. fulfilled ???

I think the original question was whether a withdrawal could be made, BEFORE the wagering is completed, so long as the bonus money isn't used, which is how Mr Green, Betat etc operate

 

[HelenT]

Hi Brianmon, yes you're correct, sorry that wasn't clear - obviously there are no wagering requirements when there is no bonus being used! Thanks for the question ☺

AND the wagering reqs. fulfilled ???

I think the original question was whether a withdrawal could be made, BEFORE the wagering is completed, so long as the bonus money isn't used, which is how Mr Green, Betat etc operate

 

[dunover]

So basically along with the unclear or badly worded bonus/WR terms you are selling lotto tickets for legitimate European national/pooled lotteries? Obviously you have permission to do so and get a commission presumably (as it's illegal to base betting or games on licensed lotteries and their results without consent.)

Now, I have to say I would ALWAYS prefer to buy my ticket direct from a terminal in a land-based retailer or on the approved website of the lottery itself as it's 100% safe. Buying via a middleman would always leave me in doubt, and I'd be sweating like a fat girl writing her first love letter should I win.

I would rather have no doubt than a small amount in matters like that.

 

[paul7388]

So basically along with the unclear or badly worded bonus/WR terms you are selling lotto tickets for legitimate European national/pooled lotteries? Obviously you have permission to do so and get a commission presumably (as it's illegal to base betting or games on licensed lotteries and their results without consent.)

Now, I have to say I would ALWAYS prefer to buy my ticket direct from a terminal in a land-based retailer or on the approved website of the lottery itself as it's 100% safe. Buying via a middleman would always leave me in doubt, and I'd be sweating like a fat girl writing her first love letter should I win.

I would rather have no doubt than a small amount in matters like that.

I read their terms about withdrawal of winnings and if I read this right then no way id buy a euromillions from their site.

6.2.Payment of Large Wins

The Player understands and agrees that the payment of any jackpot price of a game offered by a third party game provider may be the responsibility of the respective game provider. Specific terms and conditions may apply. The jackpot winning Player is recommended to contact customer support for more information.

Without prejudice to the foregoing, In the case of significant wins exceeding €5,000,000, for which EUROLOTTO is responsible for the payment thereof (see section 13) EUROLOTTO reserves the right to decide to pay the winning Player in accordance with the following re-payment plan:

The first 10% of the win will be paid by EUROLOTTO to the player immediately after KYC is collected and the identity of the Player verified;

The remainder amount of 90% will be paid by EUROLOTTO to the Player over a period of nine (9) years at the frequency decided at the sole and exclusive discretion of EUROLOTTO.

Each Player is solely responsible for reporting and paying any taxes as required by the governing law of the country of residence, if applicable.

EUROLOTTO and the respective game provider reserve the right to publish the name of a PLAYER who makes a significant amount

 

[Casino2014man]

Sorry if this seems stupid...

But are the lottery tickets the same price as if I were to buy on the lotto website?

If so, how on earth does the site make money?

 

[dunover]

Sorry if this seems stupid...

But are the lottery tickets the same price as if I were to buy on the lotto website?

If so, how on earth does the site make money?

Yes, they are. They get a retail commission - in the UK it's 5%.

So:

Tell me WHY I would buy a lotto ticket through a middleman, who pockets a commission and then gets paid the full jackpot amount, palms me off with 10% and then proceeds to drip-feed MY money to me over 10 years while using it to gain interest or working capital?

What a pointless bloody exercise.

I THROROUGHLY RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS PURCHASE LOTTERY TICKETS DIRECT FROM THE OPERATOR FOR SECURITY AND GUARANTEE OF SINGLE PAYMENT OF WINNINGS WITH NO HASSLE.

THERE IS SIMPLY NO NEED TO DO OTHERWISE.

YOU CAN ALSO WAIVE PUBLICITY IF WINNING DIRECTLY BUT YOU SIGN THAT RIGHT AWAY AT THIS SITE.

YOU CANNOT GET FU'D EITHER - NO DODGY TERMS IN A DIRECT LOTTERY SALE - PRESENT THE WINNING TICKET, PROVE YOU'RE OVER 16 OR 18 (WHICHEVER'S APPLICABLE) AND YOU ARE PAID IN HOURS, NO QUESTIONS ASKED AND NO STRESS.

Sorry for the loud words people but avoid - it's unnecessary.

 

[brianmon]

Also, according to the Uk national lottery rules. You have to be physically located in the UK or IOM to purchase a ticket online.
One would assume the other lotteries are the same

 

[paul7388]

Also, according to the Uk national lottery rules. You have to be physically located in the UK or IOM to purchase a ticket online.
One would assume the other lotteries are the same

Not really as there are lotteries like euromillions where players can play from all over Europe.

 

[brianmon]

Not really as there are lotteries like euromillions where players can play from all over Europe.

Yeah, but is that not just from within the countries that the Euromilions covers.

But can someone in Germany, for example, buy a UK National lottery ticket or can a European legitimately buy a US lotto ticket?

This site appears to sell the tickets of several lotteries located all over the world

 

[gagamel]

We had in Switzerland a lucky guy who won more than 94 million Euros some years ago with a Euromillions ticket, . If he bought his ticket with this online casino he would need nearly 19 years to get paid.

This can`t be true, but maybe I am wrong and don`t understand it

 

[paul7388]

Yeah, but is that not just from within the countries that the Euromilions covers.

But can someone in Germany, for example, buy a UK National lottery ticket or can a European legitimately buy a US lotto ticket?

This site appears to sell the tickets of several lotteries located all over the world

Okay from reading their terms it doesn't look like they actually buy tickets. They just pay the prize out and say if you win its in your account within 30 minutes unless im reading it wrong. Which would explain why you can play from any country as it would be like betting on Spanish lottery at Ladbrokes as you don't get a physical ticket to the lottery.

Heres the bit that tells you how much you get if you win euromillions and how.

The Winnings to be paid out in respect of each Operator Winning Bet in Prize Category 1 are equal to the amount, which the LAE or a co-operator would have paid, if the Player had bought a Euro Millionen Winning Ticket in Prize Category 1 instead. Bookmaker will calculate this amount on the basis of the amount of aggregate stakes published by LAE or its co-operators as well as the distribution to the Prize Categories or on the basis of the jackpot published on the Website of the LAE or its co-operators for Prize Category 1 of the relevant draw of “Euro Millionen”. Albeit 11.6.7. (Clause 2) the total of all Winnings payable by Operator for Prize Category 1 for a certain draw must never exceed the Euro Millionen-Jackpot for the relevant draw and might be divided among the winners.

Example 1: There is only one Operator Winning Bet in Prize Category 1 and no Euro Millionen Winning Ticket has been announced by the LAE or a co-operator in Prize Category 1 in respect of a Euro Millionen-Jackpot of € 120.000.000,00. The Winnings payable in respect of that single Operator Winning Bet in Prize Category 1 would be € 120.000.000,00

Now im wondering if they don't buy tickets how the hell they could pay a £180,000,000 American powerball jackpot out. Makes no sense at all.

 

[LOOKAWAY]

Their sister site Cherry casino does not allow UK players. I try to log-in and it said I was banned. I emailed support and was told sorry no UK player, why not say that when I try to log-in instead off your banned.

Your banned makes me feel like I have broken the rules or done something wrong.

I take it no UK for Eurolotto?

My 2 cents on this lottery business, I never play the lotto however if it only cost me a credit off my balance and I had a bonus in play I might just buy one. Now if I was a weekly lotto player already now I would probably do both, I wouldn't swap a real ticket for this online version thou.

 

[HelenT]

Hi LOOKAWAY, thanks for your comments! Apologies for the message from Cherry; unfortunately, we cannot accept UK players right now on any of our brands, but hopefully in 2016 this will change - we're working on it!

Their sister site Cherry casino does not allow UK players. I try to log-in and it said I was banned. I emailed support and was told sorry no UK player, why not say that when I try to log-in instead off your banned.

 

[HelenT]

Hi everyone, thanks for the interest, and to paul7388, brianmon, dunover and Casino2014man for the comments. I want to be as transparent as I can, so, please take a look at the following info. Thanks!

How does the business work?
At EuroLotto, players are not purchasing tickets directly from the lotteries. They are placing a bet on the results of the lottery draws. Sites like EuroLotto are using hedging mechanisms; Insurance via credible underwriters (such as Lloyds), ILS (Insurance linked securities) and in some fringe cases real lotto tickets to cover our risk in a 100% secure way.

To address the question of “what is the point?!”
EuroLotto enables players, regardless of their location*, to play for the world’s biggest jackpot amounts. The whole point of sites like ours are to offer the best jackpot prizes to players who do not have the chance to play them ordinarily! E.g. If you live in Germany, you can purchase a EuroJackpot ticket direct from a retailer. But you can’t play for the US Powerball jackpot amount. Betting online makes that possible - if you wanted to play for that amount.

We are not trying to be a substitute for retailers selling your national lottery tickets; we are simply offering a chance to play for the biggest prizes, based on the results of real lottery draws, all over the world.

There are other advantages too, such as never losing a paper ticket (!), being able to subscribe to particular jackpots, managing how much you spend etc. And we also offer a full portfolio of market-leading casino games from Yggdrasil, Netent, Microgaming, Nyx etc. The site is fully licensed by the MGA and Curacao with a proven track record of offering a safe and secure place to play. The parent company is Cherry.se, established in 1963 and publicly listed.

Just as a side note, we do NOT offer the UK national lottery, nor are we paid a commission from that lottery.

(*EUROLOTTO does not accept players from the following countries: American Samoa, Bonaire, Canada, France, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Guam, Hungary, Martinique, New Caledonia, Reunion, Saint Barthelemy, Saint Martin (French), Saint Pierre and Miquelon, East Timor, United States of America, Wallis and Futuna, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark, Israel, Belgium, Thailand and the United Kingdom.)

 

[dunover]

Hi everyone, thanks for the interest, and to paul7388, brianmon, dunover and Casino2014man for the comments. I want to be as transparent as I can, so, please take a look at the following info. Thanks!

How does the business work?
At EuroLotto, players are not purchasing tickets directly from the lotteries. They are placing a bet on the results of the lottery draws. Sites like EuroLotto are using hedging mechanisms; Insurance via credible underwriters (such as Lloyds), ILS (Insurance linked securities) and in some fringe cases real lotto tickets to cover our risk in a 100% secure way.

To address the question of “what is the point?!”
EuroLotto enables players, regardless of their location*, to play for the world’s biggest jackpot amounts. The whole point of sites like ours are to offer the best jackpot prizes to players who do not have the chance to play them ordinarily! E.g. If you live in Germany, you can purchase a EuroJackpot ticket direct from a retailer. But you can’t play for the US Powerball jackpot amount. Betting online makes that possible - if you wanted to play for that amount.

We are not trying to be a substitute for retailers selling your national lottery tickets; we are simply offering a chance to play for the biggest prizes, based on the results of real lottery draws, all over the world.

There are other advantages too, such as never losing a paper ticket (!), being able to subscribe to particular jackpots, managing how much you spend etc. And we also offer a full portfolio of market-leading casino games from Yggdrasil, Netent, Microgaming, Nyx etc. The site is fully licensed by the MGA and Curacao with a proven track record of offering a safe and secure place to play. The parent company is Cherry.se, established in 1963 and publicly listed.

Just as a side note, we do NOT offer the UK national lottery, nor are we paid a commission from that lottery.

(*EUROLOTTO does not accept players from the following countries: American Samoa, Bonaire, Canada, France, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Guam, Hungary, Martinique, New Caledonia, Reunion, Saint Barthelemy, Saint Martin (French), Saint Pierre and Miquelon, East Timor, United States of America, Wallis and Futuna, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark, Israel, Belgium, Thailand and the United Kingdom.)

Well I do know that to offer odds in the UK (I don't know but am pretty sure other European nations would be the same) on the UK National lottery draws and results is illegal. Yes, bookies may be allowed to offer odds on other nations' results (like UK bookies offering odds on numbers coming out in the Irish lottery) but usually they are protected from side betting. Yes you can buy tickets for other countries' lotteries if you visit them nothing wrong. I think a visitor won the El Gordo in Spain IIRC.

So I buy a ticket in EuroMillions and win 25m. I get paid in one hit, anonymously if I choose, no KYC as such aside from age.

Go through your site, pick the same numbers and rely on you and 'underwriters' to give me 25m which may or may not be in instalments and also hand over my right to anonymity.

Which would you prefer??